Re: Topband: Laird ferrites

2012-07-03 Thread Tom W8JI
It's been there all along guys. http://www.lairdtech.com/Products/EMI-Solutions/Ferrite-Products/Ferrite-Toroids/; Hi Lee, Laird does not have complete data on all of their cores. For example... For higher power applications and to avoid heat, especially with unknown load situations, we

Re: Topband: Laird ferrites (correction)

2012-07-03 Thread Tom W8JI
For higher power applications and to avoid heat, especially with unknown load situations, we want a core that has low loss tangent or high Q. For good suppression, especially with unknown load situations, we want high loss tangent and Q. Should actually be: For higher power applications and to

Topband: Laird ferrites

2012-07-03 Thread Lee K7TJR
Thank you guys for your in depth comments on Laird. This now circles back to what I attempted to say in the beginning. I do not believe we get all the information we need as radio guys just from the data sheets. It has been the collective wisdom of many including the posters here and

Re: Topband: Laird ferrites

2012-07-03 Thread ZR
So who is this mysterious off brand ferrite supplier or is that a secret? Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: Lee K7TJR k7...@msn.com To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 11:01 AM Subject: Topband: Laird ferrites Thank you guys for your in depth comments on

Topband: Laird ferrites

2012-07-03 Thread Michael Clarson
Just some information: Laird purchased Cushcraft in, I think, 2008. They later sold the amateur line to MFJ, but kept the commercial products. Back then, their web site was pretty bad for antennas. Its been getting better, but still could ues a lot of work, but unlike the ferrite products, their

Re: Topband: Laird ferrites

2012-07-03 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/3/2012 8:01 AM, Lee K7TJR wrote: I do not believe we get all the information we need as radio guys just from the data sheets. It has been the collective wisdom of many including the posters here and mentors we have worked with and suppliers we have trusted that have in the long

Topband: Laird ferrites

2012-07-03 Thread Lee K7TJR
I do not know the ferrite suppliers name. I buy these toroids already wound. What I do know is it is a Chinese company. Lee K7TJR So who is this mysterious off brand ferrite supplier or is that a secret? Carl KM1H ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB

Re: Topband: Laird ferrites

2012-07-03 Thread ZR
Another fundamental problem is that the excellent engineering books on ferrites published between the 50s and 70s are essentially lost -- long out of print and hard to find even in the best engineering libraries. Some of what I've learned and published was well known in the 50s, but it died

Topband: UFOs

2012-07-03 Thread Hal Kennedy
Has anyone ever seen or can point us to a decent treatise on identifying UFOs? That would be: Unidentified Ferrite Objects. Yes, I can throw a few turns on a UFO and sweep it and zero in on the material, maybe make an educated guess at that point as to the manufacturer, check his data sheets

Re: Topband: Laird ferrites

2012-07-03 Thread W2PM
I agree there are few people who have contributed more to ham radio as ON4UN and challenge anyone to show me an engineering text or any academic text with no errors or omissions. And I personally found the various editions of the Low Band series to be far more useful, educational and well

Topband: small rx loops and ferrite

2012-07-03 Thread Sam Morgan
Since the topic of ferrite seems to be at the top of the lists focus I'd like to ask about what ferrite mix to use at the feed of a small rx loop I have built this is NOT a shielded loop with the break in the shield half way around the loop I made the loop out of the 2 turns of 5/8 inch

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2012-07-03 Thread Archibald C Doty Jr
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Re: Topband: Laird ferrites

2012-07-03 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/3/2012 9:05 AM, ZR wrote: In the 80's Ferroxcube and Siemens were into the act and some of that stuff Ive seen here not too long ago. The textbooks I know of are three by E. C. Snelling, and are referenced in my tutorial. KC9GLI, then a prof at U of Chicago, found a copy of the first

Re: Topband: UFOs

2012-07-03 Thread K4RO Kirk Pickering
At a hamfest years ago I saw some UFO's on a table. Me: What kind are they? Vendor:I don't know, what's best? Me: People seem to like type 43 for HF/VHF and 31 for MF/HF suppression. Next time I walk by the table, all of the UFOs were miraculously identified and labelled. Why, he even had

Re: Topband: UFOs

2012-07-03 Thread Shoppa, Tim
There are parts of the third world where ham homebrewing is based around three standard toroids: the one from a TV 75/300 balun, the yellow one from a PC power supply, and the green one from a PC power supply. And here we bm that we don't have u' and u'' curves. Tim N3QE

Re: Topband: (no subject)

2012-07-03 Thread HAROLD SMITH JR
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Re: Topband: UFOs

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Re: Topband: UFOs

2012-07-03 Thread ZR
What do you mean 3rd world? That describes the majority of the USA, present company excepted, but here they throw in a TV or monitor flyback! Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: Shoppa, Tim tsho...@wmata.com To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 3:11 PM Subject:

Re: Topband: UFOs

2012-07-03 Thread Shoppa, Tim
I think my point was, we haven't always been so sophisticated either. Wes Hayward's article on toroids in Jan 1968 QST discusses the Indiana General sales policy to hams, then says The remainder of this discussion will show the experimenter how he can fabricate his own toroid cores from

Re: Topband: small rx loops and ferrite

2012-07-03 Thread Rick Karlquist
Sam Morgan wrote: Since the topic of ferrite seems to be at the top of the lists focus I'd like to ask about what ferrite mix to use at the feed of a small rx loop I have built You might want to look at the feed technique described here:

Re: Topband: UFOs

2012-07-03 Thread ZR
Id forgotten Indiana General and their famous Q-1 cores, that was my first attempt at Beverage matchingseems eons ago. OTOH, Hayward was 44 years younger and a bit of a frugal type in keeping with QST tradition. Whatever worked was good, no matter what, and test equipment was very scarce

Re: Topband: small rx loops and ferrite

2012-07-03 Thread Mike Waters
Speaking of ferrite RX loops... I picked up the July 2012 issue of Popular Communications from the local grocery store's magazine rack, just to see what the unusual antenna on the front cover was all about. It's called a ferrite sleeve loop, and is made from a bunch of ferrite rods arranged into

Re: Topband: UFOs

2012-07-03 Thread Mike Waters
Don't knock those deflection yoke cores! :-) I've used a lot of those for RFI suppression over the years, especially the last place I worked. They started calling me a wizard there after a simple trifilar winding of #10 THHN around one of those ferrite cores allowed their CNC machine tool