Topband: the other inverted L

2012-08-04 Thread w7dra
in my simplistic way of settting up an antenna, link coupling a tank circuit, the top of which is connected to a half wave long inverted L, the bottom of which (right now) is connected to a 5/16 wave FCP I know what power goes out of the top of the coil must come into the bottom of the coil

Re: Topband: return current - what is it?

2012-08-04 Thread K4SAV
Bob Kupps wrote: So I modeled a half wave dipole in free space and sure enough the wire segments on each side of the feed point carried equal current. I then placed a resistive load at the center of one half-element (to simulate? a lossy return) and now see that those segments no longer

Re: Topband: return current - what is it?

2012-08-04 Thread w4buw
DOES ANYONE REMEMBER Gustav Kirchhoff -Original Message- From: K4SAV radi...@charter.net To: topband topband@contesting.com Sent: Sat, Aug 4, 2012 11:04 am Subject: Re: Topband: return current - what is it? Bob Kupps wrote: So I modeled a half wave dipole in free space and sure

Re: Topband: return current - what is it?

2012-08-04 Thread HAROLD SMITH JR
That is correct, as Mr Kirchoff said. Price W0RI You are misinterpreting what you are seeing.  When you put a resistor in one side of a dipole you modify the current distribution in both sides of the dipole and the side with the resistor has a large decrease in current at the point where

Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-04 Thread Kenneth Grimm
After suffering through our infamous derecho here in Virginia, I find that I've got a* lot* of repair work to do on my beverages. Most of the breaks are in 450 ohm window line, located in remote areas and will require soldering. My non-AC electric soldering equipment seems to have been lost in

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-04 Thread Mike(W5UC)
On 8/4/2012 12:22 PM, Kenneth Grimm wrote: After suffering through our infamous derecho here in Virginia, I find that I've got a* lot* of repair work to do on my beverages. Most of the breaks are in 450 ohm window line, located in remote areas and will require soldering. My non-AC electric

Re: Topband: return current - what is it?

2012-08-04 Thread Tom W8JI
So I modeled a half wave dipole in free space and sure enough the wire segments on each side of the feed point carried equal current. I then placed a resistive load at the center of one half-element (to simulate? a lossy return) and now see that those segments no longer carry equal currents,

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-04 Thread Rob Stampfli
On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 01:22:42PM -0400, Kenneth Grimm wrote: After suffering through our infamous derecho here in Virginia, I find that I've got a* lot* of repair work to do on my beverages. Most of the breaks are in 450 ohm window line, located in remote areas and will require soldering.

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-04 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
Ken, what I use here to repair field connections is a small handheld butane torch with an adjustable flame. Mine came from eBay for under 10 bucks and uses Benzomatic fuel for refill and does an awesome job. Take along some fine grit sandparer, a wire brush, and some flux. I use flexible

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-04 Thread Bill Cromwell
Hi, The butane soldering tools have been mentioned and I have used them too. For heavier work I had to resort to a regular propane torch. That was for heavy dipole wire and the center conductor of RG-8 up a tower in a blizzard. There is always a way grin. 73, Bill KU8H

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-04 Thread Gary and Kathleen Pearse
Soldering in wild Alaska/KL7. Two hands and a mouth. Wire supported in one hand, butane/propane torch in other, solder roll in the mouth (don't tongue the contents) with a long lead of solder feeding the joint. Face downwind to avoid burns. After suffering numerous heating related failures at

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-04 Thread N1BUG
I use a soldering iron tip with a regular propane torch. The tip attaches to just about any torch with a setscrew. Slip it over the end of the torch, tighten setscrew. I haven't looked for them recently. I bought this at a local hardware store 30 years ago for about $2 I think. It gets hot

Re: Topband: return current - what is it?

2012-08-04 Thread K4SAV
Tom W8JI wrote: If you use enough segments so the program calculates small steps along length, and a ground independent current source, you'll find current on each side of the feedpoint exactly equal no matter what resistance you insert. Yes current on each side of the feedpoint is

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-04 Thread Missouri Guy
I use a standard propane torch equipped with a large copper soldering tip. It's an attachment that fits on the end of the torch, and is secured with a small thumb screw. 73, Charlie, N0TT On Sat, 4 Aug 2012 13:22:42 -0400 Kenneth Grimm gr...@sbc.edu writes: After suffering through our

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-04 Thread Bill Wichers
Weller's butane soldering iron works really well. It's not a particularly cheap unit but it should last you a long time (the butane is refillable). For weatherproofing, I use butyl rubber splicing tape (it doesn't have adhesive). Stretch it about 30-50 percent while applying it as a spiral over

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-04 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
By putting a small layer of tape on the connection first, then the Butyl, and the a more substantial layer of tape, it is much easier to inspect the connection should this be required later down the road. Butyl on coax or wire connections is a real bear to remove beause it sticks to

Re: Topband: T2FD Antennas

2012-08-04 Thread ZR
I sold dozens to a contractor that was supplying RR ham gear to Gulf War II. The package included TS-450's and feedback was they worked very well for out of hamband phone patches, etc. Carl - Original Message - From: W0UCE w0...@nc.rr.com To: 'Herb Schoenbohm' he...@vitelcom.net;

Re: Topband: return current - what is it?

2012-08-04 Thread Tom W8JI
Hi Bill, Tom, it's worth adding to this that trying to make current measurements in the ground using 60hz is pretty useless for another reason: induced currents from the ac power system (especially in north america). 60hz will be present on just about anything -- you'll even see it on a

Re: Topband: return current - what is it?

2012-08-04 Thread K4SAV
Tom W8JI wrote: I think you may be selecting the wrong type of source, if you are using EZNEC. In the source-type selection, chose SI, not I. A split source places the source at a segment junction, so you can see current leaving each terminal of the source. I forgot about the SI

Re: Topband: Soldering in the wild!

2012-08-04 Thread Charles Moizeau
Herb's suggestion is worthy, but needs a qualification as to the kind of tape to use. Over time the adhesive layer of just about all tape will separate from the tape itself. This will happen when installed in the field or even if left for a couple of years or more on an indoor shelf. The