Re: Topband: Verifying integrity of 75 ohm coax.

2013-11-17 Thread Tom W8JI
I just downloaded the manual on PDF and read the advanced section dealing with distance to fault. Sorry to say I must not be as sharp as I used to be and I can't tell from what I've read if the RG6U needs a termination for this distance to fault test or if the coax is unterminated. Since it's the

Re: Topband: NOISE CANCELLERS

2013-11-17 Thread Carsten Esch
... I would like to try the DXE NCC-1 too (have one sitting here) to fight some noise on 80/160m ... I have a Hi-Z 8-circle for RX, TX antenna is a matched tower ... The DXE manual says: The NCC generally works best when both antennas have similar patterns, polarization, and S/N ratios.

Re: Topband: NOISE CANCELLERS

2013-11-17 Thread Jon Zaimes AA1K
Carsten, I use one of mine with a pair of the W8JI style short verticals -- 22 feet high with four 22-foot top-loading wires, and 16 radials each 25 feet long. There is a series inductor and resistor at the feedpoint. These are in a line to make them endfire NE/SW and spaced about 1/8 wave

Topband: Top loading Hy-tower

2013-11-17 Thread jcjacobsen
Hi Bob, If you are going so far as to removing all the stubs, go one farther. I' ve heard that the limited High Power problem is because of arc over between the top of the tower section and the 80m stub mast above it. I've heard several stories about fireworks at the top of the tower during

Topband: More re: Top loading hy-tower

2013-11-17 Thread jcjacobsen
How do again Bob, I forgot to add IF you short the stub at the top then forget about using the drop wire. Just put the coax feed direct to the bottom of the load coil, and the top of the coil to the tower base T. Short out the coil for 80m ops. At least that is where I'd start experimenting.

Re: Topband: NOISE CANCELLERS

2013-11-17 Thread Tom W8JI
The most frequent problem (by far) with good noise cancellers is operator related. The second most common problem is antenna choice. Any suggestion on how to use the unit best? Set up another single RX Element? Use 'the tower'? When you mix antennas to make a null, the signal levels

Re: Topband: NOISE CANCELLERS

2013-11-17 Thread Chortek, Robert L
Tom, Thank you for providing this information. Your time is valuable and we all appreciate your input on these (and countless other matter)! 73, Bob AA6VB Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2013, at 10:55 AM, Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com wrote: The most frequent problem (by far) with good noise

Re: Topband: NOISE CANCELLERS

2013-11-17 Thread HAROLD SMITH JR
Amen Bob, Tom really helps a lot of guys and gals with his expertise. Quite a guy. 73   Price W0RI Tom, Thank you for providing this information. Your time is valuable and we all appreciate your input on these (and countless other matter)! 73, Bob AA6VB Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17,

Re: Topband: NOISE CANCELLERS

2013-11-17 Thread Tim Duffy
We have used the DX Engineering NCC-1 for many years at K3LR on 160 meters. Before the NCC-1 was manufactured we used the MFJ-1025. The NCC-1 is a major upgrade above the 1025 performance. The 1025 worked better than all other noise canceller/RX combiners that I could find and test with including

Re: Topband: Don't give up AND log who worked the DX b4 and after!

2013-11-17 Thread Bernie McClenny, W3UR
Like I said - mistakes happen. If the guy who made the mistake realizes he did so and is will to correct the error that is nothing wrong with that. Bernie Bernie McClenny, W3UR Editor of The Daily DX, The Weekly DX and How's DX? Two week trial - http://www.dailydx.com/trial.htm

Topband: RES: NOISE CANCELLERS

2013-11-17 Thread Marcelo Chrispin
Mr. Tom - W8JI Et. All Top Band guys. Mr. Tom, is a great honor for me to receive your comments. I'm sure everyone thinks like me. I also want to thank all those who are interested in this subject, and further development of the technique of noise cancellation in the Top Band. Any hint is

Re: Topband: Topband NOISE CANCELLERS

2013-11-17 Thread Tim Duffy
Hello Marcelo, Roger on thanking Tom, W8JI! Tom designed the MFJ-1025 and the DX Engineering NCC-1. Both MAJOR contributions - helping us to enjoy our Low Band hobby! 73, Tim K3LR -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Marcelo Chrispin

Re: Topband: NOISE CANCELLERS

2013-11-17 Thread N1BUG
As always, Tom has done a great job educating us on this topic. I completely agree with everything he said about antenna selection for effective noise canceling. Unfortunately it isn't always possible to achieve the ultimate. In some cases it may be possible to achieve some improvement with

Topband: Spitfire.......one more question

2013-11-17 Thread Eduardo Araujo
Hi Topbanders, I am preparing my next move with the spitfire. I have one more question (for those with modeling tools?). In order to detune the elements to allow omnidirectional radiation from the vertical, authors suggested to ground the elements where they are switched from director to

Re: Topband: Topband NOISE CANCELLERS

2013-11-17 Thread nn4t
Tim. How does a device such as the NCC-1 work with diversity reception on the K3? Is it useful there or superfluous? - Original Message - From: Tim Duffy k...@k3lr.com To: Marcelo Chrispin marc...@ultracyber.com.br, Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com Cc: HAROLD SMITH JR w0ri...@sbcglobal.net,

Re: Topband: Don't give up AND log who worked the DX b4 and after!

2013-11-17 Thread James Rodenkirch
As Bernie says, Mistakes happen. Just to re-iterate --- they DID copy my call correctly!! I heard them come back to me with K9JWV 599! THAT's why I put in the log. I wouldn't have logged the QSO if he came back K9JJV 599!!! I'd still be there calling them!! Hi HiI'm ok with the notion it's not

Re: Topband: Spitfire.......one more question

2013-11-17 Thread Tom W8JI
In order to detune the elements to allow omnidirectional radiation from the vertical, authors suggested to ground the elements where they are switched from director to reflector which will give you aprox 74.5 mts long element grounded at the base. You better have a good HV relay for that!

Re: Topband: Topband NOISE CANCELLERS

2013-11-17 Thread Tim Duffy
Hello Steve! The DX Engineering NCC-1 works very well with the K3. However it does not use the diversity reception option of the K3 - as all of the antenna combining and phasing is done in the DXE NCC-1 to allow signals appear out of the noise. The K3 diversity (two RX and two antennas) cannot

Re: Topband: Spitfire.......one more question

2013-11-17 Thread Eduardo Araujo
Many thanks Tomexcellentas usual. Unfortunately it is impossible to avoid the question. Good F/B is what I have with little gain which could coincide with your modeling. Which could be the element dimension your modeling suggest to improve gain? Making the director longer to

Re: Topband: Spitfire.......one more question

2013-11-17 Thread Grant Saviers
And one more question - ON4UN in V5 states that the Spitfire will lose a few db of gain due to ground losses. How does one calculate near field ground losses? What software is needed? A related question is a general one for antennas with near ground horizontal elements - e.g. Bruce delta

Re: Topband: Verifying integrity of 75 ohm coax.

2013-11-17 Thread Gary Smith
Gentleman, and I say that honestly... :) I have a resolution to the issue and along with it my thanks for those who offered really solid ideas to track down. more to the opportunity to learn, I have much apparently to learn about my 259B which is more than just a pretty face. However, the