Re: Topband: Shunt feeding the Skyneedle

2014-02-03 Thread Tom W8JI
the vertical section was still suppressed and the top 29' was resonating. 
With this in mind I decided to run a shunt wire from the top to see where 
the antenna resonates.  Here's what I found..


I was afraid the tower was messing up the L. This is what happens when they 
are are nearly resonant.


You can't measure tower resonance with a drop wire. The drop wire is a stub 
or shorted transmission line in parallel with the common mode impedance 
presented by the drop wire and tower combination. It is just a mess of stuff 
going on.



The MFJ read 380 ohms at 1825 and the X is way off the scale.  I inserted an 
EF Johnson 10-160pf air variable capacitor at the base.in series.and was 
able to tune the antenna to 60 ohms and the X=22.  If I played with the cap 
there was a real sharp drop in reactance showing X=12.  The air variable was 
about ¾ meshed.




Reducing the lenth (tap point height) of the drop wire is a better way to 
get impedance right. Or, better still, use a multiple wire drop to make the 
drop diameter look larger. That will reduce Q, require more C, and should 
reduce impedance.


You are so close at 60 ohms I would not worry. Adjust the cap for lowest 
SWR. What is the SWR??




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Re: Topband: Shunt feeding the Skyneedle

2014-02-03 Thread Tom W8JI
So, i'm assuming you're suggesting that I drop the gamma arm down to the 67' 
level and see what the impedance looks like?  If so, I'm guessing the series 
C required to tune would increase in value?




There will be some tap point where the shunt capacitor is not required.

Eliminating the shunt cap will increase bandwidth, reduce voltages, and 
improve efficiency.


I'm not sure where the point is, but if I were doing it, I would just leave 
the tap point alone and move a shorting wire to the tower from the shunt 
wire up and down along the shunt wire and look for 50 ohms J0 when reactance 
is nulled.



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Re: Topband: FT5ZM

2014-02-03 Thread Gary Smith
Rats, back in the chase, must have been a slim. Just checked clublogs 
FT5ZM log and the 160M Q didn't show up but my 17M contact an hour  
a half later did. I know I heard them come back to me so it must have 
been a slim but geez with the signals like they were, it sure sounded 
like their signal.

Ugh...

Gary
KA1J

 Fingers crossed it wasn't a slim I worked. The signals were in  out 
 but for 4-5 minutes I could hear them clearly. Time'll tell. 
 
 If I did get him it was greatly because the kiddies weren't playing 
 so hard today.
 
 73,
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Re: Topband: FT5ZM

2014-02-03 Thread Anthony Scandurra
Gary,

I know I worked them on 40 SSB last night, and I do not appear in the log.
 So, I checked about a dozen other guys in the spots for 40 SSB last night
who supposedly worked them after I did.  None of them appear in the log
either.  Methinks there are some bands missing in today's upload!

73, Tony K4QE


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Gary Smith g...@ka1j.com wrote:

 Rats, back in the chase, must have been a slim. Just checked clublogs
 FT5ZM log and the 160M Q didn't show up but my 17M contact an hour 
 a half later did. I know I heard them come back to me so it must have
 been a slim but geez with the signals like they were, it sure sounded
 like their signal.

 Ugh...

 Gary
 KA1J

  Fingers crossed it wasn't a slim I worked. The signals were in  out
  but for 4-5 minutes I could hear them clearly. Time'll tell.
 
  If I did get him it was greatly because the kiddies weren't playing
  so hard today.
 
  73,
  Gary
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Re: Topband: FT5ZM

2014-02-03 Thread Gary Smith

Yes, anything is possible. I got a couple of emails last night from 
guys saying they heard the Q but between those bastard jammers  QSB 
on a really faint signal, I am not 100% I heard a TU in return, I 
thought I did. I did hear their report but did they hear mine back? I 

might have ended up not in the log.

I really don't want to add to the noise of others trying to make the 
Q if I'm already in the log, FT5 is so difficult to make on TB on the 

east coast/central NA and I want all of us to get it. I really don't 
feel good about having at it again because of not knowing I guess I 
have to.

73,
Gary 
KA1J

 Gary, 
 
 I know I worked them on 40 SSB last night, and I do not appear in the 
 log. So, I checked about a dozen other guys in the spots for 40 SSB 
 last night who supposedly worked them after I did. None of them 
 appear in the log either. Methinks there are some bands missing in 
 today's upload!
 
 73, Tony K4QE
 
 
 On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Gary Smith g...@ka1j.com wrote:
 Rats, back in the chase, must have been a slim. Just checked clublogs
 FT5ZM log and the 160M Q didn't show up but my 17M contact an hour 
 a half later did. I know I heard them come back to me so it must have
 been a slim but geez with the signals like they were, it sure sounded
 like their signal.
 
 Ugh...
 
 Gary
 KA1J
 
  Fingers crossed it wasn't a slim I worked. The signals were in  out
  but for 4-5 minutes I could hear them clearly. Time'll tell.
 
  If I did get him it was greatly because the kiddies weren't playing
  so hard today.
 
  73,
  Gary
  KA1J
 
 
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Re: Topband: FT5ZM

2014-02-03 Thread k2qmf
Gary,

I had a solid QSO on top band at 0010Z.
My QSO is not in the log as yet either.

I suspect they will be in the log on the next upload!!
I'm hoping anyway!!

73,
Ted  K2QMF

On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 18:02:06 -0500 Gary Smith g...@ka1j.com writes:
 
 Yes, anything is possible. I got a couple of emails last night from 
 
 guys saying they heard the Q but between those bastard jammers  QSB 
 
 on a really faint signal, I am not 100% I heard a TU in return, I 
 thought I did. I did hear their report but did they hear mine back? 
 I 
 
 might have ended up not in the log.
 
 I really don't want to add to the noise of others trying to make the 
 
 Q if I'm already in the log, FT5 is so difficult to make on TB on 
 the 
 
 east coast/central NA and I want all of us to get it. I really don't 
 
 feel good about having at it again because of not knowing I guess I 
 
 have to.
 
 73,
 Gary 
 KA1J
 
  Gary, 
  
  I know I worked them on 40 SSB last night, and I do not appear in 
 the 
  log. So, I checked about a dozen other guys in the spots for 40 
 SSB 
  last night who supposedly worked them after I did. None of them 
  appear in the log either. Methinks there are some bands missing in 
 
  today's upload!
  
  73, Tony K4QE
  
  
  On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Gary Smith g...@ka1j.com wrote:
  Rats, back in the chase, must have been a slim. Just checked 
 clublogs
  FT5ZM log and the 160M Q didn't show up but my 17M contact an 
 hour 
  a half later did. I know I heard them come back to me so it 
 must have
  been a slim but geez with the signals like they were, it sure 
 sounded
  like their signal.
  
  Ugh...
  
  Gary
  KA1J
  
   Fingers crossed it wasn't a slim I worked. The signals were 
 in  out
   but for 4-5 minutes I could hear them clearly. Time'll 
 tell.
  
   If I did get him it was greatly because the kiddies weren't 
 playing
   so hard today.
  
   73,
   Gary
   KA1J
  
  
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Re: Topband: FT5ZM

2014-02-03 Thread Gary Smith
Well, it's academic for tonight because the only signals on frequency 
I've heard all night were the buzzards throwing out carriers  the 
occasional dits so to let us know they're there, waiting. 

Band condx or local issues there keeping them off 160 it seems.

Gary, KA1J

 Gary,
 
 I know I worked them on 40 SSB last night, and I do not appear in the log.
  So, I checked about a dozen other guys in the spots for 40 SSB last night
 who supposedly worked them after I did.  None of them appear in the log
 either.  Methinks there are some bands missing in today's upload!
 
 73, Tony K4QE
 
 
 On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Gary Smith g...@ka1j.com wrote:
 
  Rats, back in the chase, must have been a slim. Just checked clublogs
  FT5ZM log and the 160M Q didn't show up but my 17M contact an hour 
  a half later did. I know I heard them come back to me so it must have
  been a slim but geez with the signals like they were, it sure sounded
  like their signal.
 
  Ugh...
 
  Gary
  KA1J
 
   Fingers crossed it wasn't a slim I worked. The signals were in  out
   but for 4-5 minutes I could hear them clearly. Time'll tell.
  
   If I did get him it was greatly because the kiddies weren't playing
   so hard today.
  
   73,
   Gary
   KA1J
  
  
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Re: Topband: FT5ZM

2014-02-03 Thread Les Kalmus

Gary,

I know I heard you in there last night and I think they got you OK.
I heard them come back to K2QMF very clearly.

73, Les W2LK


On 2/3/2014 6:02 PM, Gary Smith wrote:

Yes, anything is possible. I got a couple of emails last night from
guys saying they heard the Q but between those bastard jammers  QSB
on a really faint signal, I am not 100% I heard a TU in return, I
thought I did. I did hear their report but did they hear mine back? I

might have ended up not in the log.

I really don't want to add to the noise of others trying to make the
Q if I'm already in the log, FT5 is so difficult to make on TB on the

east coast/central NA and I want all of us to get it. I really don't
feel good about having at it again because of not knowing I guess I
have to.

73,
Gary
KA1J


Gary,

I know I worked them on 40 SSB last night, and I do not appear in the
log. So, I checked about a dozen other guys in the spots for 40 SSB
last night who supposedly worked them after I did. None of them
appear in the log either. Methinks there are some bands missing in
today's upload!

73, Tony K4QE


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Gary Smith g...@ka1j.com wrote:
 Rats, back in the chase, must have been a slim. Just checked clublogs
 FT5ZM log and the 160M Q didn't show up but my 17M contact an hour 
 a half later did. I know I heard them come back to me so it must have
 been a slim but geez with the signals like they were, it sure sounded
 like their signal.
 
 Ugh...
 
 Gary

 KA1J
 
  Fingers crossed it wasn't a slim I worked. The signals were in  out

  but for 4-5 minutes I could hear them clearly. Time'll tell.
 
  If I did get him it was greatly because the kiddies weren't playing
  so hard today.
 
  73,
  Gary
  KA1J
 
 
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Topband: FT5ZM Update

2014-02-03 Thread David Raymond
Direct word from K9CT just minutes ago. . . .we started (today, editor) at SS 
but had some bad rfi in shack. EY8MM will be on for sure (they were late 
getting on TB for NA Monday evening, editor).  We are using a network to gather 
logs. The UPS had RFI and dropped the network (thus some Qs not showing up in 
on-line log, editor). We have some computers that needed to be caught up.  We 
have three backups of each computer and will do a complete log update to catch 
up.  We should pass 100K QSOs today! Some French wine and cheese to celebrate.

Respectfully passed on to the reflector. . .73. . Dave, W0FLS
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