Re: Topband: New MFJ 259C available

2014-03-04 Thread mstangelo
I also recommend the VNWA. It is a true network analyzer. The MFJ is basically a SWR meters and does not accurately display Impedance. Mike N2MS - Original Message - From: Grant Saviers gran...@pacbell.net To: Carl k...@jeremy.mv.com, topband@contesting.com Sent: Tue, 04 Mar 2014

Re: Topband: New MFJ 259C available

2014-03-04 Thread Paul Christensen
I had a look at the matching Rosenberger calibration standards and for the money, the kit is a bargain. At first, I was disappointed to see what amounts to only 1% resistive load accuracy. The displayed image on the website shows a calibration standard that reads about 49.5 ohms. But, the

Re: Topband: ARRL Board Requests Member Comments About Digital Modes

2014-03-04 Thread Rik van Riel
On 03/03/2014 06:37 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: What is really a concern is the demands by wideband data advocates for priority access to *at least 15%* of every amateur band in spectrum coordinated in all three ITU regions. See: http://hflink.com/bandplans/iaru_region_2.html Applied

Re: Topband: ARRL Board Requests Member Comments About Digital Modes

2014-03-04 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Apparently you did not read that URL. They're not even asking for 1810 to 1840. Although they do not specifically ask for an allocation on 160 meters, their principle of 15% of every amateur band located the preferred spectrum for common access across all three regions is clearly stated at

Re: Topband: ARRL Board Requests Member Comments About Digital Modes

2014-03-04 Thread Mike Waters
FWIW, I believe such transceivers do exist. Don't the Flex SDRs have that capability? ... as if there are any amateur transceivers capable of operating with data bandwidth greater than 2.8 KHz. _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

Re: Topband: New MFJ 259C available

2014-03-04 Thread Carl
Im waiting for N6LF to add that to his review results. http://www.antennasbyn6lf.com/files/vna_comparisons.pdf Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: Paul Christensen w...@arrl.net To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 10:25 AM Subject: Re: Topband: New MFJ 259C

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2014-03-04 Thread Roger D Johnson
Well, V73MW was a bust here. I've heard him the last two mornings but, just as he comes out of the noise before my sunrise, he switches to 80m! he comes back to 160m about an hour later and works the midwest. Very frustrating! 73, Roger _ Topband Reflector Archives -

Re: Topband: New MFJ 259C available

2014-03-04 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/4/2014 7:25 AM, Paul Christensen wrote: My only concern with the VNWA is in its ability to measure Topband antenna systems where sweeps are required into the AMBC band. I'm a VERY happy owner of the 3E model VNWA. I've made measurements on my 160M antennas with no difficulty, but I'm

Re: Topband: ARRL Board Requests Member Comments About Digital Modes

2014-03-04 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/4/2014 8:30 AM, Mike Waters wrote: FWIW, I believe such transceivers do exist. Don't the Flex SDRs have that capability? I'm told that their phase noise is a terror! 73, Jim K9YC _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

Re: Topband: New MFJ 259C available

2014-03-04 Thread Charlie Cunningham
True!! Check out the prices of the Cal kits for the Agilent VNAs! 73, Charlie, K4OTV -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 1:36 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: New MFJ 259C

Re: Topband: New MFJ 259C available

2014-03-04 Thread Grant Saviers
I have made sweeps of my 160m T on many occasions as I tuned it, added elevated radials, and then installed a remote series capacitor switch to tune the entire band per a W8JI suggestion. There was no interference from AMBC, I'd be glad to forward the sweeps. My current QTH does not have a

Re: Topband: New MFJ 259C available

2014-03-04 Thread Carl
Can HP microwave loads be used? I have a set good to 24 GHz and another to 50 GHz. Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 1:35 PM Subject: Re: Topband: New MFJ 259C available On 3/4/2014

Re: Topband: New MFJ 259C available

2014-03-04 Thread Charlie Cunningham
Those should surely be accurate enough, but what kind of connectors? Charlie, K4OT V -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Carl Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 2:41 PM To: j...@audiosystemsgroup.com; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re:

Re: Topband: New MFJ 259C available

2014-03-04 Thread Carl
SMA for the 24GHz, open, thru and short. I also have high end adaptors to N, APC, etc. There may even be an old type N cal kit from back in the eighties Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: Charlie Cunningham charlie-cunning...@nc.rr.com To: 'Carl' k...@jeremy.mv.com;

Re: Topband: New MFJ 259C available

2014-03-04 Thread Charlie Cunningham
Well, SMA is probably the most generally useful. With the adaptors in place, we just have to make sure that we include the adaptors in our calibrations. When it gets to be really witchy is when we need to calibrate a miniature coax or semi-rigid line to solder into a PC board to measure at the

Re: Topband: ARRL Board Requests Member Comments About Digital Modes

2014-03-04 Thread Charlie Cunningham
What the hell is the need for wideband data in the amateur radio bands? Is it just a ploy to usurp the amateur bands for commercial purposes? And there's a heck of a lot more band width available at VHF and UHF! Why wideband at HF?? Makes no sense to me! ?? Charlie, K4OTV -Original

Re: Topband: ARRL Board Requests Member Comments About Digital Modes

2014-03-04 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Is it just a ploy to usurp the amateur bands for commercial purposes? Yes - for the rich yachtsmen who buy ham tickets and then use the Winlink/Sailmail stuff in the amateur bands rather than pay for expensive maritime data service. What the hell is the need for wideband data in the

Re: Topband: New MFJ 259C available

2014-03-04 Thread Carl
I have the BH microscope, stand, light, table, etc as well as a hot plate and access to a bonder when needed. Plus various knives, blades, scalpels, gold plated needle point iron, etc for fine tuning (-; I still do a bit of prototyping for former employers and stuff for myself to 24 GHz. Its

Re: Topband: New MFJ 259C available

2014-03-04 Thread HAROLD SMITH JR
This sure doesn't sound like topband to me ! Price W0RI Well, SMA is probably the most generally useful. With the adaptors in place, we just have to make sure that we include the adaptors in our calibrations. When it gets to be really witchy is when we need to calibrate a miniature coax or

Re: Topband: New MFJ 259C available

2014-03-04 Thread Charlie Cunningham
No, Price! Way above Topband in frequency, but the principles of Vector Network Analysis and calibrating out the cables to move the measurement plane to the end of the cable are the same at 1.8 MHz as they are at 2.5 GHz. And the Smith Chart applies at all frequencies from near DC to daylight! J

Re: Topband: New MFJ 259C available

2014-03-04 Thread Mike Waters
This sure doesn't sound like topband to me ! That's what I was thinking. I don't understand why we have to use microscopes and scalpels for 1.8 MHz. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

Re: Topband: New MFJ 259C available

2014-03-04 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/4/2014 4:10 PM, Mike Waters wrote: That's what I was thinking. I don't understand why we have to use microscopes and scalpels for 1.8 MHz. It all depends on the degree of precision that you need for whatever project you happen to be working on. I work all bands between 1.8 MHz and 900

Re: Topband: New MFJ 259C available

2014-03-04 Thread Carl
So you can see better to stuff more wire in a binocular core. But I agree with Charlie that the principles are the same and it often may be easier to test an idea about a 160M antenna at say 10 or 6M where a 1/2 wave is only 9' for the latter. OTOH the discussion was also about cal kits and

Re: Topband: New MFJ 259C available

2014-03-04 Thread Tom W8JI
I thought a much more useful item would have been a 259 revision that was totally immune to RFI, and still did about the same stuff over a wider frequency range. As I looked at things over the years, very few people want VNA's that attach to PC's, and that market is covered anyway. I thought

Re: Topband: New MFJ 259C available

2014-03-04 Thread Charlie Cunningham
Well, I might be willing to use a VNA that attaches to a computer in my Lab, if I could get away with much lower cost than one of the Agilent or Rhode and Schwarz VNAs. I'd like to have the capability to cover the 2.5 GHz band and go considerably higher so I could look at harmonic filters for

Re: Topband: ARRL Board Requests Member Comments About Digital Modes

2014-03-04 Thread Henk PA5KT
Mike, One of the problems with making band plans is that every region makes its own and then forget how things are arranged in other zones. In EU still a lot of the countries have only 1830-1850 available. To make everybody happy the bandplan has to allow CW, digital and phone in this 20kHz