Re: Topband: Modeling the proverbial vertical on a beach

2014-08-12 Thread Cqtestk4xs--- via Topband
One last thought on this.. When I came back to the mainland in 2010 the only rig I had was my truck, an ICOM 706 and a Tarheel screwdriver antennanot exactly a super setup. I was really craving a radio fix so for the 2010 phone sweepstakes I drove my truck on dirt road that

Re: Topband: Modeling the proverbial vertical on a beach

2014-08-12 Thread JC
Hi Guys I would say vertical IN the salt water. George AA7JV is my mentor about antennas, and his 160m vertical is at the pear, just 2 m from the salt water, the ground plane is a flat sheet SS metal 1 ft. x 20~30 ft. that goes inside the water , dropping 10 from the pear wall and on the see

Topband: anybody in Eu using JT-9 or JT-65

2014-08-12 Thread Dan Edward Dba East edwards
greetings to pass the time through the summer doldrums, I've been playing with weak  signal digi-modes.  Near sunrise, am having fair luck to VK, w jt-65...  VK3XQ comes through almost every day.. but, at Eu sunrise, my cq's go un-answered, even with kw power.  Is the band  really THAT bad to

Re: Topband: anybody in Eu using JT-9 or JT-65

2014-08-12 Thread Tim Shoppa
There's the band, and then there's folks using the band. Both have to line up! Important thing is that it is winter in VK :-). So more likely for VK's to be on topband than for EU's. I don't do JT-65 but below I share some of my experience with CW this summer on 160M: Just in the past week I

Re: Topband: anybody in Eu using JT-9 or JT-65

2014-08-12 Thread Brian D G3VGZ
Dan Edward Dba East edwards dan.n.edwa...@sbcglobal.net wrote: greetings to pass the time through the summer doldrums, I've been playing with weak signal digi-modes. Near sunrise, am having fair luck to VK, w jt-65... VK3XQ comes through almost every day.. but, at Eu sunrise, my cq's go

Topband: anybody in Eu using JT-9 or JT-65

2014-08-12 Thread ALEXEY OGORODOV
Hello brethren, I´m ready to be crucified yet I couldn´t resist asking a question: What's the value of JT modes qso for a dxer? IMHO Digimodes undermine the value of low band dxing. I don't arfue over reliability of the modes and their help in extension of hamradio capabilities in general yet

Re: Topband: Modeling the proverbial vertical on a beach

2014-08-12 Thread Tom W8JI
By the way, my intention is not to make anyone feel bad, but to just to remind people that an impression or feeling is not confirmation. Impressions really get us off track, and lead to unnecessary debates and arguments. - Original Message - From: Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com To:

Re: Topband: anybody in Eu using JT-9 or JT-65

2014-08-12 Thread Jim Brown
On 8/12/2014 8:00 AM, ALEXEY OGORODOV wrote: What's the value of JT modes qso for a dxer? There's far more to ham radio than making QSOs on CW (which I have been doing for 59 years). There's also station and antenna building, learning new techniques, interfacing computers to rigs, and so on.

Re: Topband: Modeling the proverbial vertical on a beach

2014-08-12 Thread Yuri Blanarovich
Oh, here comes the guru again. :-) Unnecessary debate? We are talking about experiences and RESULTS of comparing normal in land ground effect vs. salt water beach or marshes. We are commenting on the benefit of immediate proximity of salt water to antenna performance, especially on low

Re: Topband: Modeling the proverbial vertical on a beach

2014-08-12 Thread Peter Voelpel
Wow, nice S-meter... -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Yuri Blanarovich Oh, here comes the guru again. :-) Unnecessary debate? We are talking about experiences and RESULTS of comparing normal in land ground effect vs. salt water beach

Re: Topband: Modeling the proverbial vertical on a beach

2014-08-12 Thread Tom W8JI
- Original Message - From: Yuri Blanarovich k...@optimum.net To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 4:50 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Modeling the proverbial vertical on a beach Oh, here comes the guru again. :-) Is that immature stuff really necessary?

Re: Topband: Modeling the proverbial vertical on a beach

2014-08-12 Thread Yuri Blanarovich
 On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 08:14 PM, Tom W8JI wrote:     - Original Message - From: Yuri Blanarovich To: Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 4:50 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Modeling the proverbial vertical on a beach Oh, here comes the guru again. :-) Is that immature stuff really

Re: Topband: Modeling the proverbial vertical on a beach

2014-08-12 Thread Hardy Landskov
Yuri, I don't think K3LR, W3LPL could afford that kind of property to begin with plus they have to work and have families and all of that. It is nice to do that kind of thing on DXPD's but I would not want to live there. My final 2 centsI vote we move on. 73 N7RT - Original Message

Re: Topband: Modeling the proverbial vertical on a beach

2014-08-12 Thread w7dra
this brings back a lot of memories..i arrived on rarotonga a week after a French Dxpidition did, who was set up in the K2KW motel room with vertical antennas on the beach just as you would imagine. the motel management said she was sorry, and set me up in a cottage (from the same motel) on