Topband: Boradband noise on 160 meters tracked down to apartment complex

2014-12-15 Thread Don Kirk
Mfj Nuller will not work because the signal is in the same direction of my 300 deg pointing pennant. My guess is that we should be able filter and shield properly at the source Don On Sunday, December 14, 2014, W2PM via Topband topband@contesting.com

Re: Topband: Boradband noise on 160 meters tracked down to apartmentcomplex

2014-12-15 Thread Tom W8JI
Mfj Nuller will not work because the signal is in the same direction of my 300 deg pointing pennant. There are a lot of popular misconceptions about this. The noise does always not have to be a different direction, or even just one source. The MFJ nuller and other similar systems will remove

Re: Topband: Boradband noise on 160 meters tracked down to apartmentcomplex

2014-12-15 Thread Don Kirk
Hi Tom, Thanks, and my statement was too broad. In my case I am unable to meet the conditions you mentioned (my sense antenna would not be much closer to the noise, and it would not pick up the noise much better than the listening antenna which is pointed in the direction of the noise source).

Topband: ground radials conductivity

2014-12-15 Thread k1fz
In Broadcasting, we used silver plating of tuned circuits often as copper oxide, depending upon the degree of oxidation, is a poor conductor, Silver oxide is a much better conductor than copper oxide. In the High powered short wave station that I worked. the ABB Swiss made transmitter plate

Re: Topband: ground radials conductivity

2014-12-15 Thread Bill Wichers
Galvanized can be a problem in some soils. This is the reason that galvanized ground rods are no longer recommended in most applications (I think ON4UN even has a pictured of a rotted galvanized ground rod in his book). Copper-clad steel ground rods are more common and will generally hold up

Re: Topband: ground radials conductivity

2014-12-15 Thread k1fz
Bill, The Back Stay rod was to show with correct galvanization of the 1920's  they stood up well. The  parentheses was a reference to wire  used in  antennas. I should  have added used in antennas. Reading down a little further: The ground wire information was to show that  enameled

Re: Topband: ground radials conductivity

2014-12-15 Thread Tom W8JI
Galvanized can be a problem in some soils. This is the reason that galvanized ground rods are no longer recommended in most applications (I think ON4UN even has a pictured of a rotted galvanized ground rod in his book). Galvanized is a problem here. In the air on in the ground, galvanized

Topband: Followup on the 1915kHz radar signal

2014-12-15 Thread Doug Grant
After some Googling and educated guessing, I have determined (and received confirmation of) the following: - It is a high-frequency surface-wave radar (HFSWR) system, developed by Raytheon Canada for the Canadian military. It seems to be a new version of the SWR503 MK2 HFSWR system. It is

Re: Topband: Followup on the 1915kHz radar signal

2014-12-15 Thread Don Kirk
Hi Doug, Thanks for the follow up. I was saying 70 to 75 degrees, and 70 degrees from my location puts me right where the W1FV 75 degree line passes below the location you have identified. Interesting stuff. Thanks, Don (wd8dsb) On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Doug Grant dougk...@gmail.com

Re: Topband: Boradband noise on 160 meters tracked down to apartment complex

2014-12-15 Thread Tim Shoppa
I have done a little bit of research into the variable speed drive motors that are commonly part of eco-friendly green HVAC systems. I have found in many cases that the installer sells SEER-rated components as part of their most efficient packages, but in most cases the installation takes no

Re: Topband: ground radials conductivity

2014-12-15 Thread Bill Wichers
Ah, sorry if I misinterpreted what you meant. Regarding proper galvanization, such things CAN still be had. There are two kinds of galvanized products these days: flash galvanized, which is usually not very useful outdoors, and hot dipped galvanized. The hot-dipped type tends to look crusty

Re: Topband: Followup on the 1915kHz radar signal

2014-12-15 Thread Roger D Johnson
I believe 1900 to 2000 kHz is shared with radiolocation in the US also. I'm just thankful it's not on 1815!! 73, Roger _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

Topband: FW: Boradband noise on 160 meters tracked down to apartment complex

2014-12-15 Thread Bill Wichers
To add to what Jim had said about this smells like a Variable Frequency Drive [VFD] (which I also think is probably what you're seeing here): VFDs operate by varying the power to a three phase motor to control speed and torque. This is done through PWM (Pulse Width Modulation) at a frequency in

Topband: 8 circle: DXE vs Hi-Z

2014-12-15 Thread Bob Tabke
I'm new to 160 and am planning to add an 8-circle. I would like to buy commercial preamps and the controller. I would greatly appreciate any advice on the choice of preamp/controller vendor. I live in a rural area and have a 4-direction 3-ele vertical array for 160 with a 20+ dB f/b. So I'm

Re: Topband: Followup on the 1915kHz radar signal

2014-12-15 Thread Donald Chester
From: Roger D Johnson n...@roadrunner.com I believe 1900 to 2000 kHz is shared with radiolocation in the US also. I'm just thankful it's not on 1815!! 73, Roger That's correct. But the FCC has proposed to discontinue the radiolocation allocation in that frequency range, and return the

Re: Topband: Boradband noise on 160 meters tracked down toapartmentcomplex

2014-12-15 Thread Goldtr8 (KD8NNU)
Hi Tom Thanks for your comments in the email below. I have a 80m noise that is from a local house source and your comments below have me thinking about how to implement a vertical noise sense antenna. I believe the noise to be vertically polarized as my horizontal loop does not have the

Topband: Followup on the 1915kHz radar signal

2014-12-15 Thread Paul Hudson
Raytheon Canada Limited is a wholly owned subsidiary of Raytheon Company (NYSE:RTN), a 24 billion dollar technology leader specializing in defence, homeland security and other government markets throughout the world. With headquarters in Waltham, Mass., Raytheon employs 73,000 people worldwide.

Re: Topband: 8 circle: DXE vs Hi-Z

2014-12-15 Thread Tom W8JI
- DXE wants a 320' diameter and Hi-Z wants 200' for optimum performance. It's hard to tell what DXE performance is because it does not disclose RDF, beam width or F/B. And neither vendor supplies EZNEC files so I can see the effect of varying the layout. So I'm not sure how to decide what

Re: Topband: 8 circle: DXE vs Hi-Z

2014-12-15 Thread Lee K7TJR
The primary difference between DXE and Hi-Z 8 circle arrays is the fact that Hi-Z uses ALL 8 verticals actively at the same time where DXE uses only 4 at a direction. Using all 8 verticals allows the use of a smaller diameter and a performance edge on Directivity over the larger 4 active array.