On 2015-02-05 08:30, Jim Brown wrote:
On Wed,2/4/2015 10:51 PM, Jan Erik Holm wrote:
Sorry if I´m a PITA right now but why even bother to
have this debate about K1N on 160, it´s not even DX
to NA, like a local station almost.
That depends on where in NA you are -- it's pretty big. I'm 5 miles
Yes indeed it was them Tree as K1N is readable here with the RX antenna
disconnected on TB. Not even some locals can do this.
, KV4FZ
On 2/5/2015 1:52 AM, Tree wrote:
Appears none of the 160 meter QSOs from last night (Feb 4) were
included in the recent log update.
Hopefully - it was really
On Thu,2/5/2015 8:24 PM, Tom Haavisto wrote:
The way I look at it, I got them on 80/160, so anything else is a bonus.
Chiil -- there were some Qs that got logged on the wrong band, so they
started from scratch, reloading to ClubLog. My 160 and 40 Q went away,
now all six are there.
73, Jim
Back in the day...we didnt have online logs...how did we possibly exist?
That was really a long time ago..Like almost 5 years or more.
I am dismayed that dxpeditions are now graded by the quality of their online
logs and we demand perfection in every regard.
But our own state of perfection is
Hi, Jim
Well, it was a bit of a wait, but all 6 of my QSOs are back online now,
including 160. I also got 'em on 80 and 160 - but - wonder of wonders - I
wkd 'em on 160 fairly quickly on 160 with my 80m GP that, at the moment has
only one radial! I've been off the air for a while struggling with
Someone did a more extensive analysis of several DXpeditions maybe 2 or 3
years ago. Basically the same conclusion. Typically NA puts up the largest
percentage of the funds but doesn't get that percentage in Q's. I forget
which group it was posted in.
73, Larry W6NWS
-Original
Yeah, me too. I worked them on 80 meters the other night and it's showing no
contacts with me. Been busting my hump on several bands to get through. Thought
that 80 meter QSOS was a good one. Dang it.
Jim Bennett / W6JHB
Folsom, CA
On Feb 5, 2015, at 8:10 PM, Doug Renwick ve...@sasktel.net
The way I look at it, I got them on 80/160, so anything else is a bonus.
There is still lots of time, so it might be best to wait for a day or two
before looking for insurance Q's while Clublog gets sorted out.
For me, I would really, really hate to have an insurance Q end up costing
someone
Tonight the K1N on line log came back on. For me I lost a bunch of Qs that
were there before, and some Qs I had made previously still didn't show. So
I decided to work them again on 80 and 160 just to make sure. I am not sure
what the problem is but a lot of folks are unhappy. In time it will
Lou,
is that what you have said, an argument ?
Let us wait a week, and then we will judge...
73's Nermin S58DX
- Original Message -
From: KE1F Lou lmecs...@cfl.rr.com
To: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers
AND and this is the' ÄND not the end yet but very close.
.RHR posted DXCC ARRL now allowing you to be anywhere and contact count for
Award'
I'm afraid we will lose our privileges, the only thing that protected us and
make us unique to preserve the bands we have privilege is the nom
-commercial
Hi Guys,
All of this talk about the use of remote receivers, DX spotting nets, etc. etc.
etc. surely will have us all arrive to the point that our human individual
efforts to develop a specialized killer Amateur radio station will be usurped
and eclipsed by one, single thing: the computer.
Why doesn't some group of people start another DX award system that is
more worthwhile?
It might come to that one day, Larry. With LoTW being a major feeder into
DXCC credits, it would take a lot of work for someone else to pick this up
and run with it. But there is certainly a leadership
It is not about remote technology or use of or for DXCC, it is the change
into a enterprise carrier service $/min or $/KW.
Now, extrapolate the RHR business model to hundreds of similar paid remote
services, all competing for customers to access what has been free spectrum
regulated by the
Hi Jim,
As of the last log updates for K1N, NA was 89.8% (not 99.5%) and Europe was
7.8% of their 80 meter contacts. Also suspect the Eu numbers will continue
to rise as less and less NA stations will need K1N.
As a side note on 160 meters Europe is currently 8.0% of the K1N 160 meters
Jim, thanks for bringing it up.
As said there are no free lunches,
whether it is economy, politics, everyday life
or hobby...
73's Nermin S58DX
- Original Message -
From: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com
To: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 8:32 PM
And let me counter with another quote:
Edmund Burke said all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good
men do nothing.
Doug
-Original Message-
What difference does it make? Who cares if someone else, rich or not,
cheats?
We should encourage them to work K1N as quickly as
What difference does it make? Who cares if someone else, rich or not, cheats?
We should encourage them to work K1N as quickly as possible and then go away.
I leave you with a Shakespeare quote, It is a tale told by an idiot, full of
sound and fury, but signifying nothing.
Tod, K0TO
Sent from
Hi Eddy,
As usual, you've nailed it squarely! For many years I was an avid 2 meter
DXer, really enjoying meteor scatter on ssb and moonbounce with cw. When
digital methods came in to make those modes much easier, the challenge was
gone I left. I honestly felt that a qsl request for such
Nermin,
Lets wait for the final result from K1N.
We do have EP6T data:
68,045 QSO
69.6% Europe
9.8% North America
17.6% Asia.
I am willing to bet you a bottle of riesling, (Yellow Tail, my favored
fermented grape)
that K1N will do better with European stations than EP6T did with North
It does not make you wonder we all know EXACTLY what is going on, and
its illegal, and going to become commonplace.
Disgusting
73
W5FI Gary
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 2:41 PM, steve.r...@culligan4water.com wrote:
Anybody else hear the UA4 in the Navassa pileup last night?
When I was fixing TV's in my high school days, RCA used a ceramic capacitor
across the AC line just inside the chassis. Caused all kind of fires.
They tried their best to replace them all.
Jim - KR9U
At only 29 cents each, its time for me to methodically remove all of
my
.01 uF 2 kV
Don't worry.
There is nothing detrimental at all even with the metal poles just a few mm
from the antenna.
As long as the wire is insulated from the pole, no change or effect can be
observed.
73 Tom
- Original Message -
From: dl8yhrfrank--- via Topband topband@contesting.com
Luc,
OK, lets wait and see.
73 Lou KE1F
On 2/5/2015 5:48 PM, luc kerkhofs via Topband wrote:
--- On Thu, 2/5/15, luc kerkhofs luckerkh...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: luc kerkhofs luckerkh...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers
To: KE1F Lou lmecs...@cfl.rr.com
Date: Thursday,
With all due respect, such complaints are really kinda sad. Considering the
long term implications, this topic is one of the more important ones
discussed here in a long time -- and there continue to be new ideas aired
this afternoon. Guess this topic has struck a raw nerve with some.
- Larry
Hi all
i woud like to set my? Beverages from 1m high to 2.5m high..some told me it
will improve them
So now i need new pols to hold the wire
I thought about 1m Aluminiumtube? in the ground and inside that pol a 2m peace
of tropicwood..so distance from Alumminiumpol to the finaly Beveragewire
It is quite easy to secure a virtual VPN to show your IP address from the USA.
I am no computer genius but use a virtual VPN to use for instance Facebook in
China, or a blocked website in Dubai just as an example. Vetting stations via
IP address is not an fool proof way to identify a RHR
Want to know what the ARRL position is. Look at page 8 of February QST
opposite K1ZZ's 'It seems to us'.
Joe K2UF
-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Burke
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 5:09 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Forgot about that ad.HAHan age ol' heuristic comes to mind.money
talks, vapor(s) walks (heuristic toned down for the PC/squishy crowd)
From: j...@k2uf.com
To: w...@sbcglobal.net; topband@contesting.com
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 17:22:37 -0500
Subject: Re: Topband: RHR and remote
--- On Thu, 2/5/15, luc kerkhofs luckerkh...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: luc kerkhofs luckerkh...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers
To: KE1F Lou lmecs...@cfl.rr.com
Date: Thursday, February 5, 2015, 5:24 PM
Sorry Lou, but I disagree with that
comparison , considering the path
I agree, Larry..however, I doubt if anyone is refereeing or taking good
notes as to separating wheat from chaffand, THEN, where does the
accumulated, condensed and vetted idea(s) (hopefully not more than a couple)
go
In short - we all need a plan as to how to get the ideas
To complete this winters' measurement session,
Elecraft's Gary Surrency quoted +33dBm (=2Watt) to be the max input power
the K3 handles, prior to a (T)RX-failure.
(TR-switch PIN diodes and/or post mixer IF AMP) A LCD warning is also
issued: HI RFI for too high RF input.
I.e. our 100W will
Sorry to drag out this matter but maybe someone will share by take on
it. This whole concept is treading on thin ice as far as the hobby is
concerned. Operators with only a computer can conceivably build up
their DXCC totals without even having an actual station and work DX
siting in their
Jim,
As the result of such incidents, UL developed across line capacitor
program to test
capacitors for such applications.
That program is under UL's component recognition system.
Across the line capacitors are tested and recognized for such
application and for
no other applications. such
Carl please call or email me ASAP!
73, Bill W4ZV
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Carl k...@jeremy.qozzy.com wrote:
Give me your phone # Bill, I should be home by Saturday and will call.
Carl
--
From: Bill Tippett btipp...@alum.mit.edu
Carl please call or email me ASAP!
73, Bill W4ZV
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Bill Tippett btipp...@alum.mit.edu wrote:
Carl please call or email me ASAP!
73, Bill W4ZV
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Carl k...@jeremy.qozzy.com wrote:
Give me your phone # Bill, I should be home
This past weekend the tower crew put up a 180 grounded tower at the
local 970Khz AM site and I have been asked to match it with a tuning box
which had been feeding for years an inverted L about a quarter wave
long. The 180 foot tower has three top loading guy wires each about 50
feet long
On 02/05/2015 09:45 AM, Wayne Kline wrote:
I my self enjoy the HUNT the listening on the other VFO trying to guess
what and how he is operating.. Some OP's are predictable some it's a crap
shoot.
but that the FUN IMHO My .02 and then some
And folks will have that same
On 2015-02-05, at 10:16 AM, k8...@hughes.net wrote:
It seems that newcomers want the easy way out, and technology supplies it.
Instant gratification, regardless how hollow, seems to be the new goal.
Brian K8BHZ
Hi Brian,
You know what...?
I can see the day coming---probably sooner,
Begin forwarded message:
From: KENT kelan...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: Topband: The Future Of Ham Radio
Date: February 5, 2015 12:14:39 PM EST
To: Eddy Swynar deswy...@xplornet.ca
Seems to me that this needs to be reviewed!! Just My .02 worth
73 de Kent
N8ZRD
Topband -- 160
Back in the days when it seemed that almost everyone were getting vanity call
letters, one of the stations local to St. Louis obtained a K1** call. When the
DX station went by the numbers he was calling with the 1s not the 9s or 0s.
Price W0RI
On Thursday, February 5, 2015 6:44 AM, Fortra
'The KEY WORD is the COMMUNICATIONS².¹
Milt,
We¹ve already addressed ³communications.² A definition needs to be added
to Part 97.3. Absent a definition, there is no clear meaning of the term
and is left to interpretation, and abuses of interpretation.
IMHO, it is totally legal per written
Yes, Milt has it 100% correct !
Paul has chosen his legal (mis)interpretation of Part 97, the RHR guys
and the ARRL have chosen their (correct) interpretation. If Paul doesn't
agree with their interpretation, and thinks they should cease and
desist, that is why we have the FCC, and failing
First of all, they haven't reported having their beverages installed.
The original plan submitted for approval was denied because the wires could
impact the birds in the island, final and approved plan was based on vertical
only for low bands and fiberglass protected wires SteepIR.
I am
Hi Kent,
I respectfully disagree with you...
ANY forum worthy of its salt---like the Topband Reflector, which I like, and
very much, too---should WELCOME engaging, intelligent input from its members.
By doing so, it retains its vitality relevance as an OPEN FORUM to the
community which it
If Paul doesn¹t agree with their interpretation, and thinks they
should cease and
desist, that is why we have the FCC, and failing that, the federal court
system of the United States.²
Steve,
I¹m not going to argue the validity of anyone¹s (mis)interpretation unless
it comes from the FCC or
At only 29 cents each, its time for me to methodically remove all of my
.01 uF 2 kV ceramic bypass capacitors from the line inputs to most of
my home brew electronic devices and replace them with safety capacitors.
Exactly correct, Eddy.
35 years ago I formed my opinion about 2m repeaters, realizing that everyone's
signal was the same strength regardless of whether they had an 11 element
antenna or a rubber duckie. It was too socialistic for my taste and I had no
interest. An EME station was on my
Makes you wonder ! I see it all the time.. There WIN 7 light speed machine
with 32 GB Ram and QUADSSD's in Raid takes 40 sec to flash screen
Gosh I still remember to the frustration of a transceiver with limited
Clarifier and the joys of Split RX and TX boxes. during
Edmund Burke was a great thinker and observer of mankind and politics. I
suspect he would view all this gnashing of teeth over such a trivial matter
as just what it is: a waste of time and energy. ISIS, who kills hundreds of
people every day, is evil. Thousands of people dying all over the world
Paul,
IMHO you and others have failed to hit upon the KEY word, or term, in the
Part 97 rules.
The KEY WORD is the COMMUNICATIONS.
The rule is written so that an amateur station cannot be legally used to
transmit COMMUNICATION, that is, the actual information contained in the
First of all, they haven't reported having their beverages installed.
Secondly, there has been a storm front slowly moving across the Carribean
with lots of QRN. Hearing the many Europeans who I could easily copy with
my beverages could be very difficult for them listening on their transmit
On 2015-02-05, at 11:14 AM, Anthony Scandurra wrote:
I suppose we should go back to spark gap transmitters and coherent
detectors, too... :-)
73, Tony K4QE
Hi Tony,
Oh gosh no, of course not!
But by the same token, isn't it funny how the populace has embraced walking to
the corner
On Thu,2/5/2015 2:52 PM, Tom W8JI wrote:
There is nothing detrimental at all even with the metal poles just a
few mm from the antenna.
A very popular method out here in CA is to
1) cut a piece of 3/8-in rebar to a length of 4-5 ft, stick about 18-in
of it in the ground
2) drill a 1/4-in
It appears to be the case that NA finances the big trips and EU gets the
Q's. That needs to be ironed out.
Garry
On 2/5/2015 11:32 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
On Thu,2/5/2015 8:29 AM, Fortra wrote:
jeez those numbers are worrying.
So are the numbers for contributions to the cost of DX trips that
You may be right, Tree. My 160 QSO is in there, but I worked them night
before last with my 80m GP with ONE radial! What a surprise! Just thought
I'd hoot at 'em because they had such a good signal here in NC.
It took my 12m and 15 m QSOs another day to show up!
73,
Charlie, K4OTV
HAving been inactive for many years before getting back into ham radio
last year,
I will not bore the list with my opinions on remote operation and how
that is handled.
I would like, however, to ask a question.
Why doesn't some group of people start another DX award system that is
more
To us EP6T was European QSO Party.
GL and 73 Lou KE1F
On 2/5/2015 1:51 AM, Jan Erik Holm wrote:
Sorry if I´m a PITA right now but why even bother to
have this debate about K1N on 160, it´s not even DX
to NA, like a local station almost.
Jeez how difficult can it be from the US, anybody with
The irony in all this is compare the bird protection on Navassa to wind
farms stateside which are allowed to kill thousands of birds including your
golden eagle.
You just can't make this stupidity up.
Doug
I wasn't born in Saskatchewan, but I got here as soon as I could.
-Original
On Feb 5, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Steve London n2ica...@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/05/2015 09:45 AM, Wayne Kline wrote:
I my self enjoy the HUNT the listening on the other VFO trying to
guess what and how he is operating.. Some OP's are predictable some it's a
crap shoot.
but that the
(Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer.)
Keep in mind that radio communication already has a statutory definition;
incorporating it into Part 97 might make Part 97 clearer...but I think it would
take an act of Congress to actually change the definition for amateur radio
purposes.
From 47 U.S. Code §
http://www.remotehamradio.com/the-stations/
73
Peter
-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Christensen
Sent: Donnerstag, 5. Februar 2015 17:10
To: topband
Subject: Re: Topband: Foreign stns using NA remotes for K1N
I'm sure you
Peter,
Tnx. Call signs of the member stations that serve 160m?
Paul
-Original Message-
From: Peter Voelpel dj...@t-online.de
Date: Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 1:39 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Foreign stns using NA remotes for K1N
Guys - I think we have hashed out this subject enough for this round.
I am starting to get a lot of complaints about the topic continuing.
So - let's try to hold back on future posts unless it really moves the
discussion back to the original intent of this list.
Thanks and good luck to those
Anybody else hear the UA4 in the Navassa pileup last night? Hearing Europe from
here is kind of a big deal. Hearing Eastern Europe or Russia is a bigger deal.
Not hearing anything else from Europe except a UA4 that's S-9 ? Makes you
wonder.
73 Steve K0SR
_
Topband Reflector
This class of capacitor also works great for making repairs to old tube
rigs. Various RF bypass, plate blocking etc. in 807/6146B type rigs.
Tim N3QE
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Rol roland.and...@comcast.net wrote:
I see that these capacitors were developed to be in compliance with the
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