Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M

2015-02-19 Thread Steve Flood
Great points Chet.

Under the Be there category, consider getting up in the middle of the
night to work them on the low bands.  Even in the first days of their
operation, I got up at 2 a.m. and worked them easily on 160-80-40 with 100
watts and no pileups.

Steve KK7UV




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Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M

2015-02-19 Thread GALE STEWARD via Topband
Exactly the point, Steve! A bunch of the guys around here worked them on 160 at 
0800Z (that's 3AM here). My 160 QSO was around 1030Z.
I'm really dating myself but back in the day the only way to snag some new 
ones on 80/160 was to be checking the bands in the middle of the night. No 
internet cluster, etc. It's actually a lot easier these days (my opinion).

When my daughter was an infant this was easier as I was usually up in the 
middle of the night at least once!
73, Stew K3ND

  From: Steve Flood kk...@bresnan.net
 To: topband@contesting.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 6:25 AM
 Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M
   
Great points Chet.

Under the Be there category, consider getting up in the middle of the
night to work them on the low bands.  Even in the first days of their
operation, I got up at 2 a.m. and worked them easily on 160-80-40 with 100
watts and no pileups.

Steve KK7UV






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Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M

2015-02-19 Thread Kenneth Grimm
And how about the clown last night, around 10pm his local time, when
TI9/3Z9DX was working EU, who got on his frequency and said, NA NA NA, I'm
tired and need my sleep.  I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.

73,

Ken - K4XL

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 8:18 AM, GALE STEWARD via Topband 
topband@contesting.com wrote:

 Exactly the point, Steve! A bunch of the guys around here worked them on
 160 at 0800Z (that's 3AM here). My 160 QSO was around 1030Z.
 I'm really dating myself but back in the day the only way to snag some
 new ones on 80/160 was to be checking the bands in the middle of the night.
 No internet cluster, etc. It's actually a lot easier these days (my
 opinion).

 When my daughter was an infant this was easier as I was usually up in the
 middle of the night at least once!
 73, Stew K3ND

   From: Steve Flood kk...@bresnan.net
  To: topband@contesting.com
  Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 6:25 AM
  Subject: Re: Topband: K1N 5,399 q's on 160 M

 Great points Chet.

 Under the Be there category, consider getting up in the middle of the
 night to work them on the low bands.  Even in the first days of their
 operation, I got up at 2 a.m. and worked them easily on 160-80-40 with 100
 watts and no pileups.

 Steve KK7UV






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Re: Topband: Yikes

2015-02-19 Thread Garry Shapiro

Tonight K6MM told the NCDXC that LOTW is a few months down the road.

Garry, NI6T

On 2/19/2015 6:08 PM, Larry via Topband wrote:

Ham radio is sure changing and not for the better. $6 for a QSL card is 
outrageous. are they posting the logs on LOTW?


i wonder if those who kindly contributed to the expedition will have to pay for 
their cards?


larry
n7dd



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From: Doug Renwick ve...@sasktel.net
To: topband topband@contesting.com
Sent: Fri, Feb 20, 2015 1:47 am
Subject: Topband: Yikes


K1N club log is now up.  First QSO costs $6.00 USD.  That's got to be the
most expensive I have seen.  Anyone top that one.  I am not complaining!

Doug

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Re: Topband: Yikes

2015-02-19 Thread Jeff AC0C
It's a near miracle they finally got the permission to go.  And then it cost 
an actual fortune to fund, even though it was relatively close.  For the 
value that QSL represents, it's cheap at many times the OQRS price.


73/jeff/ac0c
www.ac0c.com
alpha-charlie-zero-charlie

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Haavisto

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 9:36 PM
To: Buzz Jehle
Cc: TopBand List ; Doug Renwick
Subject: Re: Topband: Yikes

Hi Buzz

I guess I am confused.

K1N had significant expenses, and expecting the operators to cover all the
costs - including QSLing does not seem right.  Despite that, they are
offering a low cost way for folks to obtain a QSL card.  I think we both
realize that is just the way it is.


From the complaints so far, it does not seem to be the donors who are

complaining.  Yes - I made an up front donation, and I was very happy to do
so to help make K1N happen.  I also realize that does not fit into
everyones budget.  At this point, it is MY choice to send an SASE to obtain
a QSL card, or to use OQRS for a faster turn around.  Or - to not bother
getting a QSL card at all, and just going with LOTW.

I for one, am thrilled K1N happened, and it was a huge success.  Yes - some
folks went away empty handed, despite their best efforts.  No one said
there would be any guarantees up front...

Please don't cry on behalf of the folks who donated to this operation.
They did so with full knowledge there would be no guarantees of a QSO or
QSL card after the fact.  Please let everyone decide - for themselves - if
they should use OQRS, LOTW, or any of the other options being offered to
obtain a K1N confirmation.

In closing - I would also like to point out that K1N is far from unique in
the significant costs department.  Several past expeditions, and many more
going forward - also face significant costs.  Just keep that in mind when
looking for a confirmation.  If you can help them - great.  If not - don't
cry for those that do.

Tom - VE3CX



On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Buzz Jehle b...@logi.us wrote:


When OQRS came up a couple of days ago it was $2 and they took it down and
changed it to $6, a new high and low in Ham Radio as far as I am
concerned.  No consideration to donors is being made either it seems.

Buzz N5UR



On Feb 20, 2015, at 1:46 AM, Doug Renwick ve...@sasktel.net wrote:

K1N club log is now up.  First QSO costs $6.00 USD.  That's got to be the
most expensive I have seen.  Anyone top that one.  I am not complaining!

Doug

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Re: Topband: Yikes

2015-02-19 Thread wb6rse1
Let’s see. You likely have thousands if not tens of thousands invested in gear 
and antennas. You have a computer and a monthly ISP bill. And a monthly 
electric bill. These guys unselfishly invested their own time and a lot more 
than $6 each to give you the joy of an ATNO and band/mode slots.

Did you donate to the project ahead of time? Do you donate to Clublog that has 
substantial costs but does not require you to join and that allows you to 
request your card via the bureau for free?

Are you “thirfty” out of financial necessity? OK. You’ll get your card and LOTW 
eventually. Or is it just out of habit?

So why even bring it up?

Sympathy is in the dictionary between two words I won't repeat here.

Steve WB6RSE
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Re: Topband: Yikes

2015-02-19 Thread Larry via Topband
Ham radio is sure changing and not for the better. $6 for a QSL card is 
outrageous. are they posting the logs on LOTW?


i wonder if those who kindly contributed to the expedition will have to pay for 
their cards?


larry
n7dd



-Original Message-
From: Doug Renwick ve...@sasktel.net
To: topband topband@contesting.com
Sent: Fri, Feb 20, 2015 1:47 am
Subject: Topband: Yikes


K1N club log is now up.  First QSO costs $6.00 USD.  That's got to be the
most expensive I have seen.  Anyone top that one.  I am not complaining!

Doug

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Re: Topband: Yikes

2015-02-19 Thread Larry Burke
A bargain at twice the price. 

Larry K5RK

-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Doug
Renwick
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:47 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: Yikes

K1N club log is now up.  First QSO costs $6.00 USD.  That's got to be the
most expensive I have seen.  Anyone top that one.  I am not complaining!

Doug

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Topband: TI9/3Z9DX

2015-02-19 Thread K1FZ-Bruce

 Ti9/3Z9DX initially was very weak on 160 last night at my QTH in Maine 
(northern New England). 
Then the signal started building, peaking to S-8  1530 hours UTC. Unfortunately 
they were working Europe at the time. Waited a number of hours, but  no 
cigar. 
Any information available as to flexing operating hours to regional areas  ?

73
Bruce-K1FZ
Flag antenna info  www.qsl.net/k1fz/pennantnotes.html

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Re: Topband: TI9/3Z9DX

2015-02-19 Thread Tim Shoppa
Conditions to EU on 160M last night were just superb. Might be best to just
let TI9 work EU given these conditions.

This AM before I went to work (1100Z), I got them on 160M CW. They weren't
loud but were peaking up above the noise quite often.

I have listened for them when spotted on phone on the high bands and found
nothing but kc cops.

Tim N3QE

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:26 AM, K1FZ-Bruce k...@myfairpoint.net wrote:


  Ti9/3Z9DX initially was very weak on 160 last night at my QTH in Maine
 (northern New England).
 Then the signal started building, peaking to S-8  1530 hours UTC.
 Unfortunately they were working Europe at the time. Waited a number of
 hours, but  no cigar.
 Any information available as to flexing operating hours to regional areas
 ?

 73
 Bruce-K1FZ
 Flag antenna info  www.qsl.net/k1fz/pennantnotes.html

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Re: Topband: TI9/3Z9DX

2015-02-19 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
Email Dom 3Z9DX.  I had a log problem and he answered me immediately.  I 
am sure they are open to suggestions if asked nicely.


Mike W0MU

On 2/19/2015 9:35 AM, Tim Shoppa wrote:

Conditions to EU on 160M last night were just superb. Might be best to just
let TI9 work EU given these conditions.

This AM before I went to work (1100Z), I got them on 160M CW. They weren't
loud but were peaking up above the noise quite often.

I have listened for them when spotted on phone on the high bands and found
nothing but kc cops.

Tim N3QE

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:26 AM, K1FZ-Bruce k...@myfairpoint.net wrote:


  Ti9/3Z9DX initially was very weak on 160 last night at my QTH in Maine
(northern New England).
Then the signal started building, peaking to S-8  1530 hours UTC.
Unfortunately they were working Europe at the time. Waited a number of
hours, but  no cigar.
Any information available as to flexing operating hours to regional areas
?

73
Bruce-K1FZ
Flag antenna info  www.qsl.net/k1fz/pennantnotes.html

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Re: Topband: TI9/3Z9DX

2015-02-19 Thread Merv Schweigert
TI9 had a super signal on 160 last nite,  before my sunset he was 579 
and peaked over
599 at sunset,  of course EU only,  and he was working them at a good 
clip.  Good to see

conditions were good.
After sunset his signals started dropping,  he went to US about 0500?  I 
made it through the
pile up on a QSB peak at 0511Z  one or two contacts later he went QRX,  
dont know if he

came back to the band or not,
Nice to log a new one for the season.

73 Merv K9FD/KH6

Conditions to EU on 160M last night were just superb. Might be best to just
let TI9 work EU given these conditions.

This AM before I went to work (1100Z), I got them on 160M CW. They weren't
loud but were peaking up above the noise quite often.

I have listened for them when spotted on phone on the high bands and found
nothing but kc cops.

Tim N3QE

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:26 AM, K1FZ-Bruce k...@myfairpoint.net wrote:


  Ti9/3Z9DX initially was very weak on 160 last night at my QTH in Maine
(northern New England).
Then the signal started building, peaking to S-8  1530 hours UTC.
Unfortunately they were working Europe at the time. Waited a number of
hours, but  no cigar.
Any information available as to flexing operating hours to regional areas
?

73
Bruce-K1FZ
Flag antenna info  www.qsl.net/k1fz/pennantnotes.html

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Re: Topband: TI9/3Z9DX

2015-02-19 Thread Nodir Tursun-Zade
Band was really nice last night. Worked TI9 from balck hole Asia location. 
Before this I was able to log few US stations. First time after 2013 
opennings.


Navassa K1N was audible almost daily on my SR peak. But KP1 has way better 
heading than polar TI9 and US.



Condx got better.


Regards,

Nodir Tursun-Zade
EY8MM


TI9 had a super signal on 160 last nite,  before my sunset he was 579 and 
peaked over
599 at sunset,  of course EU only,  and he was working them at a good 
clip.  Good to see


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Re: Topband: TI9/3Z9DX

2015-02-19 Thread Ray Benny
At 0500z the op started working NA. Many of us worked him then. He was a
good 579 from 0300z working EU until at least 0510z when I shut the rig
down.

They seem to up load the logs to Clublog often.

Glad to get a new one on 160m!

Ray,
N6VR

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Nodir Tursun-Zade nodir.ey...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Band was really nice last night. Worked TI9 from balck hole Asia location.
 Before this I was able to log few US stations. First time after 2013
 opennings.

 Navassa K1N was audible almost daily on my SR peak. But KP1 has way better
 heading than polar TI9 and US.


 Condx got better.


 Regards,

 Nodir Tursun-Zade
 EY8MM


  TI9 had a super signal on 160 last nite,  before my sunset he was 579 and
 peaked over
 599 at sunset,  of course EU only,  and he was working them at a good
 clip.  Good to see


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Re: Topband: Yikes

2015-02-19 Thread Larry Burke
Their website shows the various ways to get a card. The $6 fee is for
ClubLog, which is very convienient. 

QSL methods:

U.S.A. Direct: Minimum S.A.S.E. (Self-Addressed Stamped Envelope)

World Direct: S.A.E. (Self-Addressed Envelope) plus minimum $2 or 1 IRC

OQRS Direct and bureau: via CLUBLOG

Regular Bureau: via N2OO c/o the W2 QSL Bureau

LOTW: Sooner rather than later.


- Larry K5RK


-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Larry via
Topband
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:08 PM
To: ve...@sasktel.net; topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Yikes

Ham radio is sure changing and not for the better. $6 for a QSL card is
outrageous. are they posting the logs on LOTW?


i wonder if those who kindly contributed to the expedition will have to pay
for their cards?


larry
n7dd



-Original Message-
From: Doug Renwick ve...@sasktel.net
To: topband topband@contesting.com
Sent: Fri, Feb 20, 2015 1:47 am
Subject: Topband: Yikes


K1N club log is now up.  First QSO costs $6.00 USD.  That's got to be the
most expensive I have seen.  Anyone top that one.  I am not complaining!

Doug

There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual or lawyer could
believe them. - George Orwell, 1984



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Re: Topband: Yikes

2015-02-19 Thread Tree
Yes - they will be uploading to lotw for free.

You can get your QSL for the price of an SASE if you are not wanting
to use the OQRS system (for USA hams).

End of thread please.

Tree N6TR

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Larry Burke w...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 A bargain at twice the price.

 Larry K5RK

 -Original Message-
 From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Doug
 Renwick
 Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:47 PM
 To: topband@contesting.com
 Subject: Topband: Yikes

 K1N club log is now up.  First QSO costs $6.00 USD.  That's got to be the
 most expensive I have seen.  Anyone top that one.  I am not complaining!

 Doug

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Re: Topband: Yikes

2015-02-19 Thread Dave Clouser

The K1N website says...

QSL via N2OO:

   Navassa 2015 DXpedition
   c/o Bob N2OO
   PO Box 345
   Tuckerton NJ 08087 



 QSL methods:

U.S.A. Direct: Minimum S.A.S.E. (Self-Addressed Stamped Envelope)

World Direct: S.A.E. (Self-Addressed Envelope) plus minimum $2 or 1 IRC

OQRS Direct and bureau: via CLUBLOG

Regular Bureau: via N2OO c/o the W2 QSL Bureau

LOTW: Sooner rather than later.


73
Dave NZ3M


On 2/19/2015 8:46 PM, Doug Renwick wrote:

K1N club log is now up.  First QSO costs $6.00 USD.  That's got to be the
most expensive I have seen.  Anyone top that one.  I am not complaining!

Doug

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Topband: Yikes

2015-02-19 Thread Doug Renwick
K1N club log is now up.  First QSO costs $6.00 USD.  That's got to be the
most expensive I have seen.  Anyone top that one.  I am not complaining!

Doug

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Re: Topband: Yikes

2015-02-19 Thread Jim Brown

On Thu,2/19/2015 6:08 PM, Larry via Topband wrote:

Ham radio is sure changing and not for the better. $6 for a QSL card is 
outrageous. are they posting the logs on LOTW?


Did you happen to see on their website what it cost them to BE there?

73, Jim K9YC
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