Re: Topband: verticals by the sea

2015-04-03 Thread Richard Fry
NEC modeling to determine the effects on the fields radiated by a vertical monopole when siting it near a salt-water coastline can be highly misleading if the surface wave field is not considered. For example, the plots linked below show that for average earth conductivity the E-field at 5

Re: Topband: verticals by the sea

2015-04-03 Thread Mike Smith VE9AA
Is there any advantage to using an inverted VEE by the sea? Didn't I read inverted VEEs had a lot of vertical polarization? Reason I ask is I plan to do the IOTA contest on an Island in NB or NS and have not yet decided on an antenna. Thanks, Mike VE9AA Mike, Coreen Corey Keswick

Re: Topband: Fw: verticals by the sea

2015-04-03 Thread donovanf
Hi Herb, Stew's two element inverted-V beam was 265 feet above sea level, a spectacular location. The water tower is on the edge of a steep drop to the ocean. 73 Frank W3LPL - Original Message - From: Herbert Schoenbohm he...@vitelcom.net To: topband@contesting.com Sent:

Re: Topband: Fw: verticals by the sea

2015-04-03 Thread Chris G3SVL
On 3 Apr 2015, at 18:19, donov...@starpower.net donov...@starpower.net wrote: Stew's two element inverted-V beam was 265 feet above sea level, a spectacular location. The water tower is on the edge of a steep drop to the ocean. And you get an excellent view of the tower on final

Re: Topband: verticals by the sea

2015-04-03 Thread donovanf
Hi Mike, There's some vertical polarization off the ends of an inverted-V, but is significantly down from the horizontally polarized radiation broadside to the antenna. The advantages of a seaside location for horizontal polarization are an unobstructed horizon and very efficient ground

Re: Topband: Fw: verticals by the sea

2015-04-03 Thread Herbert Schoenbohm
Didn't Stew Perry, W1BB have basically and inverted Vee with open wire feeders at his famous Lighthouse QTH at Winthrop, MA? On 4/3/2015 12:48 PM, k1fz wrote: Years ago there was someone using an inverted V and doing quite well with DX. It was later found that he had a long vertical open

Re: Topband: Fw: verticals by the sea

2015-04-03 Thread Michael Tope
Another good example was D4B's 160 meter inverted-V Yagi that was setup near the edge of the bluff at the Monteverde contest site (now D4C). Al put in an incredible topband signal into the west coast of the USA. Once when I sent him an email complimenting him on his big signal, he wrote back

Re: Topband: Salt-Water Qth!

2015-04-03 Thread Chuck Hutton
W3RE : Apparently you missed the references I cited for BBC Engineering reports.Apparently everyone else did also, as they've not been mentioned since. And as for only hams being aware of seaside gain, the entire MW DX community has taken that as a matter of course for a hundred years. It seems

Re: Topband: Salt-Water Qth!

2015-04-03 Thread Art Snapper
While reading this thread, the concept of purchasing the Radio Caroline ship came to mind several times. It would probably be cheaper than the land, if it is still available. :) 73 Art NK8X On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 5:39 PM, N2TK, Tony tony@verizon.net wrote: And it is very close to a nice

Re: Topband: Salt-Water Qth!

2015-04-03 Thread James Rodenkirch
A LID operating QRO at an excellent northeastern US sea view site with excellent antennas -- is still only a *loud* LID, who is able to cause a lot more interference and consternation than a weak LID. The above is an excellent example of confrontational interoperability, and close to the

Re: Topband: Salt-Water Qth!

2015-04-03 Thread N2TK, Tony
And it is very close to a nice golf course N2TK, Tony -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of donov...@starpower.net Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 1:04 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Salt-Water Qth! Hi Paul, Its the

Re: Topband: Fw: verticals by the sea

2015-04-03 Thread Herbert Schoenbohm
One could also get an idea of driving you car across a causeway or bridge of a salt water inlet while listening to an AM station up on the high end of the AM band and observing the sometimes astounding weak signal enhancement. Many times also the power line noises and other industrial QRN

Topband: Salt-Water Qth!

2015-04-03 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:17 PM, donov...@starpower.net wrote: Its not practical to place a vertical closer than 1/4 wavelength of an ocean beachfront except in a temporary installation such as a DXpedition. Also w...@hudsonvalleytowers.com wrote: ... Is there any scientific data in print to

Re: Topband: Fw: verticals by the sea

2015-04-03 Thread Gary Smith
One could also get an idea of driving you car across a causeway or bridge of a salt water inlet while listening to an AM station up on the high end of the AM band and observing the sometimes astounding weak signal enhancement. Many times also the power line noises and other industrial

Re: Topband: verticals by the sea

2015-04-03 Thread JC
Mike An Inverted V does have the same lobe horizontal and vertical but they are 90 degree apart, If you run EZENEC and change description option to Ver. Hor. and Total field, you will see that at 0 degree Horizontal is maximum and Vertical is zero, at 45 degree both fields are the same, and at 90

Re: Topband: Fw: verticals by the sea

2015-04-03 Thread Gary Smith
What a fantastic location. Looking at the houses surrounding it reminds me of a google maps view I checked out of the Sphinx Pyramids recently, I had no idea they were surrounded by houses. Makes me appreciate rural mountain top sites all the more. 73, Gary KA1J This is a photo of the

Re: Topband: MFJ 259B

2015-04-03 Thread donovanf
http://www.w8ji.com/mfj-259b_calibration.htm - Original Message - From: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 11:35:48 PM Subject: Re: Topband: MFJ 259B On Fri,4/3/2015 4:27 PM, Hardy Landskov wrote: My 259B seems to have

Re: Topband: MFJ 259B

2015-04-03 Thread Hardy Landskov
Frank, Jim, et al, Ok great. I hope the problem is solved. Happy Easter 73 Hardy N7RT -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of donov...@starpower.net Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 4:40 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: MFJ 259B

Re: Topband: MFJ 259B

2015-04-03 Thread Jim Brown
On Fri,4/3/2015 4:27 PM, Hardy Landskov wrote: My 259B seems to have drifted for lack of a better term. A 100 ohm resistor now measures 85 ohms. There are some trim pots inside but no directions on how to adjust them or align the unit. Should I send it back or ??? W8JI published some

Re: Topband: Fw: verticals by the sea

2015-04-03 Thread JC
Just two years DU7ET worked WAS on 160m using an inverted V. Robert had a good signal long path almost every day for six months. By the way , he told me he will be active from DU7ET again starting is October. 73 JC N4IS -Original Message- From: Topband

Re: Topband: Fw: verticals by the sea

2015-04-03 Thread donovanf
This is a photo of the famous W1BB water tower in Winthrop, MA. http://www.sylviaplath.info/photos/winthrop9.jpg I've seen it many times flying into Boston Logan Airport. The photo was apparently taken at low tide. Europe is off towards the upper right hand corner of the photo, the runways

Topband: MFJ 259B

2015-04-03 Thread Hardy Landskov
My 259B seems to have drifted for lack of a better term. A 100 ohm resistor now measures 85 ohms. There are some trim pots inside but no directions on how to adjust them or align the unit. Should I send it back or ??? 73 Hardy N7RT _ Topband Reflector Archives -