Re: Topband: Inv L Config

2016-12-05 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
I just went over the RBN data for W0MU spots on Dec 3 and Dec 4. Dec 3rd I had a top loaded Cushcraft MA-160. Dec 4th Inverted L about 50ft vertical and the end pointing northish and going up toward 60 to 65 ft in trees. The only DX that spotted me was on the 4th PJ2T.Other than that I

Topband: ARRL160CW frm EU center

2016-12-05 Thread Dr. Wolf Ostwald
hi reflectees ! This contest is history by now and it was hard work from the interior of EU. The first nite cndx were better, but US stns suffered from heavy traffic QRM most times. They surely had a better receiving situation on the second nite. Conditions were poor at the best, long QSB

Re: Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes

2016-12-05 Thread K1FZ-Bruce
  Very weakly hear it to my West from Belfast Maine.  Not detectable in any other direction.   Bruce-k1fz     On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 01:17:46 -0500, Don Kirk wrote: I'm hearing what sounds like a stuck Key sending dashes (rate approximately 20 dashes sent in 10 seconds). Does not

Topband: 1809.2 kHz constant dashes

2016-12-05 Thread Don Kirk
I'm hearing what sounds like a stuck Key sending dashes (rate approximately 20 dashes sent in 10 seconds). Does not appear to be a local signal and heading approximately 90 degrees from Fishers Indiana (which is near Indianapolis). Hard to get super accurate heading right now due to Thunder

Re: Topband: Inv L Config

2016-12-05 Thread donovanf
A very important caution about the performance of T-verticals vs. Inverted-L verticals. If the performance of your 40 meter antennas is important to you and your T-vertical is within 300 feet of your 40 meter antenna, its important that the top of your T should be less than 55 feet long or

Re: Topband: Inv L Config

2016-12-05 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
I had plenty of bandwidth with my L. Maybe that means I have plenty of loss too. :( I had no issues working nearly everyone I heard. I wonder what making a "cage" on the vertical section would do. Someday I guess I should really learn how to model stuff. W0MU On 12/5/2016 9:37 PM,

Re: Topband: Inv L Config

2016-12-05 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
The horizontal section also radiates, more or less than the vertical depends on the specifics. Easy to see in a very simple NEC model. If you are opposed to radiation from the horizontal on principle, then put up a T. But the radiation from an L's horizontal fills in the doughnut hole in the

Topband: Inv L Config

2016-12-05 Thread Jerry Keller
Is it advantageous to make both the vertical and the horizontal sections "fat" (for improved bandwidth), or is it enough to "fatten" the vertical (radiating) section ? How much BW will 3" diameter spacers give me? 73, K3BZ _ Topband Reflector Archives -

Re: Topband: 160 vertical/L

2016-12-05 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Another thing that the horizontal of an inverted L does for you on 160 is to give you a penalty-free loading device, so that the ENTIRE extent of the vertical wire can be seriously used for radiation. There is a very good, if difficult to prove, case to be made that the vertical current up near

Topband: Dallas Lankford antennas

2016-12-05 Thread Brian_ve7jkz
Dallas speaks highly of his vertical receiving antennas which he refers to as 'low noise'. Approx 23 feet or so in height with a transformer 5ft above ground, then a pair of wires to a similar transformer at the radio end. He has other designs maybe 40 ft high. It all seems so simple and

Re: Topband: Top band from Indian Ocean - 3B9HA

2016-12-05 Thread Merv Schweigert
Olof has been very good copy here in KH6 for a couple days now, Was fortunate to work him this morning about 30 mins before my sunrise, his signal peaked over 579, excellent. LOTW QSO was there by the end of the day here. thats fast. Thanks to Olof. Yesterday also was 3b8/DJ7RJ with 569 on

Re: Topband: 160 Meter Contests

2016-12-05 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 12/5/2016 8:25 AM, k...@aol.com wrote: Rick I was delighted you heard me - YES - I was more than an hour into daylight - so your RX setup must be pretty damend good!!! 73 JEFF Actually, YOU are the one with the great RX setup. I was only running 150 watts! I suspect you were running

Re: Topband: ARRL 160

2016-12-05 Thread DXer
Thanks, Mike...it's all clear now. 73 de Vince, VA3VF On 2016-12-05 6:18 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote: Yes you have to manually edit the Cabrillo file with notepad or similar. On 12/5/2016 3:54 PM, DXer wrote: If I understood this correctly, the QSO will not count for/against you, but

Re: Topband: ARRL 160

2016-12-05 Thread DXer
Thanks, Ken. But if the software does it in real time, would it not be better to correct the error in the first place? This way it would still be legitimate to claim the points. Sorry if I misunderstood your message. I use N1MM, need to check. 73 de Vince, VA3VF On 2016-12-05 6:08 PM, Ken

Re: Topband: ARRL 160

2016-12-05 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
Yes you have to manually edit the Cabrillo file with notepad or similar. On 12/5/2016 3:54 PM, DXer wrote: If I understood this correctly, the QSO will not count for/against you, but remains on the log for the benefit of the other station. My question is, this line 'x'ing' must be done

Re: Topband: ARRL 160

2016-12-05 Thread Ken K6MR
Not sure about other loggers: mine (DXLog.net) has a hotkey that marks the Q in real time. Ken K6MR From: DXer Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 2:54 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL 160 If I understood

Re: Topband: ARRL 160

2016-12-05 Thread Gary Smith
This chatter has got me thinking about something I have wondered often. Seems like this might be a good place to ask about it. What happens if the other station copies your call or info wrong? Do both scores take a hit? For instance; I work W1AW he copies KA1J and copies CO instead of CT.

Re: Topband: ARRL 160

2016-12-05 Thread Tim Shoppa
In Emails with the ARRL 160M and 10M logchecker in past few years he has confirmed to me that their logchecking software supports XQSO: at least for those two contests. Tim N3QE Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 5, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Tree wrote: > > There is no penalty for busting a

Re: Topband: ARRL 160

2016-12-05 Thread Tree
The addition of an X is a method that is not in the Cabrillo specification. It is an extension that the CQ WW contest has added and is generally not supported by other contests. I realize this creates lots of confusion (part of why I was against their implementation of it). The right thing to

Re: Topband: ARRL 160

2016-12-05 Thread DXer
Talk about self-sacrifice. LOL If it's possible in CQ Contests, ARRL should implement it too. 73 de Vince, VA3VF On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Tom Haavisto wrote: > > > Another option would be to bust the other guys call (on purpose) in your > log. You take an extra

Re: Topband: Beverage question

2016-12-05 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Mike, Running along close to a barbed wire fence, let's call that any wire-based or metal fence, will trash the performance in most cases. This includes an electric fence. If you are the owner or are in good relations with them the fence can be electrically broken up into non resonant (shorter

Re: Topband: ARRL 160

2016-12-05 Thread Tom Haavisto
CQ supports the idea of an "X" QSO. Proper use is "X-QSO" You prepend "X-" to leave the QSO in the log so the other guy does not get a NIL, and you don't claim it as a valid QSO. That said, I am not sure if the ARRL log processing software is equipped to handle this scenario. Another option

Re: Topband: ARRL 160

2016-12-05 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
If you remove the line completely the other guy gets a busted QSO! You put an X in front of the line. Not sure about the exact formatting. On 12/5/2016 12:25 PM, Ward Silver wrote: If the web upload app for log submission finds something in a QSO: line it can't deal with... > The ARRL

Topband: 160 vertical/L

2016-12-05 Thread Ignacy Misztal
I have an 80m full-size wire vertical and 160m inv L using the same 8 long elevated (and tuned) radials, each 20m long and 2m high. The RCS-4 switch picks up either antenna. Having separate feeds makes tuning simple. Compared to an 80m flattop at 20m fed with ladderline, the 80m vertical is

Re: Topband: ARRL 160

2016-12-05 Thread DXer
Please ignore my previous message asking how to unclaim a QSO. I asked after checking the ARRL site, and not finding the answer there. 73 de Vince, VA3VF On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Tree wrote: > There is no way to mark a QSO as unclaimed in the Cabrillo format. > > Either it

Topband: ARRL 160

2016-12-05 Thread Lee STRAHAN
H, Writelog lets you think you have marked a QSO as unclaimed when you ask it to export a Cabrillo file. Thanks for the update Tree. Lee K7TJR _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

Re: Topband: ARRL 160

2016-12-05 Thread Tree
There is no way to mark a QSO as unclaimed in the Cabrillo format. Either it is there or not. The correct thing to do is have the log submitted with what was copied during the contest. It is also correct for the Web App to not delete the QSO. In this case - it flagged it - and perhaps

Topband: coax soldering

2016-12-05 Thread Craig Clark
Message: 1 Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2016 14:50:55 -0500 From: Larry To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: coax soldering Message-ID: <158cb63a7fa-2fd9-5...@webprd-m107.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 hi guys, planning on installing some more beverages. i

Topband: ARRL 160

2016-12-05 Thread Lee STRAHAN
That's all OK Ward but the guy on the other end will not get credit for the correct QSO. Not right also. I chose to mark the QSO as unclaimed as that hopefully will deal with it correctly? Lee K7TJR OR >> If the web upload app for log submission finds something in a QSO: line it can't deal

Re: Topband: ARRL 160

2016-12-05 Thread Ward Silver
If the web upload app for log submission finds something in a QSO: line it can't deal with... > The ARRL submission AP tells you to correct the mistakes rather than remove or unclaim them and that is NOT RIGHT! Point of clarification - the app does not really know anything about a

Topband: BOG Question

2016-12-05 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
The bog needs to be insulated from ground. I have a bunch of old RG6 cable that I can use. Should I tie the shield and center together or just use the sheild or just use the center or use something else? W0MU _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

Topband: Beverage question

2016-12-05 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
I am looking to supplement my RCV arrays with a bi directional Beverage at about 70 degrees. The path is along an existing barb wire fence line. I can run it approx 480 ft. The last 150 ft or so there is an overhead power line that feeds the adjacent property owner. I can run the beverage

Topband: ARRL 160

2016-12-05 Thread Lee STRAHAN
Just a note that I have unclaimed the 4M1K QSO from my official log in the contest. My question on the reflector appeared as assistance to some in the contest. And rightly so. The ARRL submission AP tells you to correct the mistakes rather than remove or unclaim them and that is NOT RIGHT!

Re: Topband: Clean Sweeps in ARRL 160

2016-12-05 Thread Mike - W5JR
Double Extra Like as they say in other social media. I sure miss my friend. Will be on the lookout for NA7TB. Will Guthrie Peak endure or be dismantled? tnx Mike / W5JR Alpharetta GA > On Dec 5, 2016, at 10:33 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote: > > Grats! You guys were loud! That

Re: Topband: advice on simple end fire array

2016-12-05 Thread Tim Shoppa
I looked at my past logs for patterns, and I might hazard a guess that holding the Stew nearly a week before Christmas, will enhance EU numbers compared to some recent years where it was run between Christmas and New Years and EU turnout seemed unusually low. Just my guess! My previous attempt at

Re: Topband: advice on simple end fire array

2016-12-05 Thread Matt Murphy
Tim, that sounds like good advice. I had been thinking that the end-fire array would offer a chance for me to dig into some of the math and low-end test equipment creating the transformers, but I think your broader point that being able to improve SNR at a range of azimuths is likely far more

Topband: ARRL 160

2016-12-05 Thread Lee STRAHAN
My apologies to all the EU stations that tried to call me in the ARRL 160 contest. I have received several e-mails and comments on the KST chat about that. (No Ears). I have a new wood products plant that has moved in next door to me and has raised the noise floor to Europe and North by

Re: Topband: advice on simple end fire array

2016-12-05 Thread Tim Shoppa
>From where I am in W3, the EU numbers in a Stew (including prestew and summer >stew) seems highly variable. Many "good non contest nights" I work more EU >than in a stew. I would put reversibility high on your list because you could potentially pick up more points from LP or QRP stations to

Topband: advice on simple end fire array

2016-12-05 Thread Matt Murphy
In preparation for the Stew I'm going to attempt to put up a small end fire array aimed at EU on my small suburban lot. There are a large number of books and articles about this topic, but my short-term goal is to build something simple that I can improve upon over the winter as time allows. I

Re: Topband: 160 Meter Contests

2016-12-05 Thread k1zm--- via Topband
Rick I was delighted you heard me - YES - I was more than an hour into daylight - so your RX setup must be pretty damend good!!! 73 JEFF Original Message From: Richard (Rick) Karlquist To: W0MU Mike Fatchett ; topband

Re: Topband: 160 Meter Contests

2016-12-05 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
That's just how this contest works, as they say. Around 0700 on Saturday, my "time since last QSO" timer hit 10 minutes. I went to S and found just a handful of stations that weren't dupes, and worked them. Time for bed. Got up at 1100 (that's 3AM here on the left coast) and worked across the

Re: Topband: 160 Meter Contests

2016-12-05 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
Shelby, The first night there were still plenty of stations on after 0700. Maybe it was conditions or that is just how this contest works. I was not able to stay awake and figured I would catch up on Saturday. I was wrong. After 0700 there were very few stations on Saturday night.

Re: Topband: Clean Sweeps in ARRL 160

2016-12-05 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
Grats! You guys were loud! That would mean more if I was in Europe and not Colorado HI! Great job! On 12/5/2016 3:05 AM, KY7M wrote: The inaugural use of the NA7TB callsign for the 8-Circle 160m antenna built by N5IA (sk) resulted in a clean sweep. We ran as a multi-single with operators

Topband: 160 Meter Contests

2016-12-05 Thread Shelby Summerville
I'm not very functional between 0200-0700 UTC, and without divulging any of y'all's secrets, how more activity, mainly Stateside, is between 02-07 UTC, than there is after 07 UTC? Thanks, and Happy Holidays to all C'ya, Shelby As I don't have an iPhone, nor an iPad, sent from my PC

Re: Topband: Clean Sweeps in ARRL 160

2016-12-05 Thread KY7M
The inaugural use of the NA7TB callsign for the 8-Circle 160m antenna built by N5IA (sk) resulted in a clean sweep. We ran as a multi-single with operators KY7M and AA7A (still jet lagged from CQWW CW at PZ5V). Going into Saturday night, we needed only NT and NL after a station in NNY called