Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 177, Issue 1

[k8gg]

Gary et. al.

We used that configuration over radials on ground on Curacao in the
mid-1990's from the end of the resort near what is now PJ2T.

It is really closer to 5/16 wl, and with half vertical and half horizontal
it came very close to Z = 50 + maybe 200j ohms.  We used a series vacuum
capacitor about 450 pfd to tune out the inductive reactance and it worked
very well.  We had about 40 or 50 radials approx. 80 feet long spread out
on the sand and coral along the shoreline.

After the CQ160 CW contest we inserted an 80 meter trap about 75 feet up
and it worked very well on both 80 CW and 160 CW for the next few days
before we had to pack up and go home.  (The support we used one of the
crank up towers the Finn's had left from their massive CQWW DX Phone and
CW efforts a few year before.)

I cannot comment on the FCP's.

GL,

George  K8GG



> 160 i l with FCP
> Everyone has been so helpful
> I'm going to throw this out here for everyone
> A 3/8 inverted l cut for 160 fed at bottom about 170 feet ,equal lengths
> for vert and horizontal using an FCP's
> thoughts on 3 independent FCP's
>
> one for 160 one for 80 one for 40
> Can the FCP's be in parraled
> Or should they be switched
> The horizontal arm end from this qth  points ne ,perfect for Europe ,or
> should I broadside the horizontal section ne by sw ?
> Or am I wasting my time with 3 FCP's
> 73
> Gary
> N6biz
>
>
>
>
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>>   3. Re: Inverted L successes (GaryK9GS)
>>   4. Re: Inverted L successes (Mike Waters)
>>   5. Best Receive Antenna over Sloping Terrain? (Ed)
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>> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 16:15:24 -0500
>> From: garyk9gs 
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>> Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L successes
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>> But being 800+ miles closer to EU (many countries there compared to
>> North America) and a path that is largely over salt water is a huge
>> advantage, particularly on the low bands.
>>
>>
>> 73-Gary K9GS?
>>  Original message From: Carl 
>> Date: 8/31/17  3:08 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: GaryK9GS ,
>> topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L successes
>> Most of LI is glacial sand and only the coastal areas benefit verticals.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "GaryK9GS" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 8:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L successes
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I suspect that your success is largely due to your location on Long
>>> Island.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Gary K9GS
>>>  Original message From: jayb1...@optonline.net Date:
>>> 8/28/17? 5:22 PM? (GMT-06:00) To: Doug Ellmore ,
>>> topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L successes
>>> Last fall I installed an ?S-9? 43 ft vertical, added a tapped loading
>>> coil
>>> at the base, with 10 on-the-ground radials about 100 ft long randomly
>>> run
>>> all over my 60x90 house plot. Rig is 300 watts - Started on 160 DXCC
>>> with
>>> 32 entities, finished DXCC in one winter season.
>>> My secret: JT65  (tnx K1JT)
>>> Try anything ? you will be amazed how successful you can be on top-band
>>> with a little patience and VERY modest antennas. 73, Jay NY2NY
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>> From: Glenn Wyant 
>> To: garyk9gs 
>> Cc: topband@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L successes
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>> Since 1984, only inverted L , no RX antennas, city lot , city noise, inv
>> L ( 70' vertical ), near Toronto, 

Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 177, Issue 1

[gary mankoff]

160 i l with FCP
Everyone has been so helpful 
I'm going to throw this out here for everyone
A 3/8 inverted l cut for 160 fed at bottom about 170 feet ,equal lengths for 
vert and horizontal using an FCP's
thoughts on 3 independent FCP's

one for 160 one for 80 one for 40 
Can the FCP's be in parraled 
Or should they be switched
The horizontal arm end from this qth  points ne ,perfect for Europe ,or should 
I broadside the horizontal section ne by sw ?
Or am I wasting my time with 3 FCP's
73 
Gary
N6biz

 


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>   1. Re: Inverted L successes (garyk9gs)
>   2. Re: Inverted L successes (Glenn Wyant)
>   3. Re: Inverted L successes (GaryK9GS)
>   4. Re: Inverted L successes (Mike Waters)
>   5. Best Receive Antenna over Sloping Terrain? (Ed)
>   6. Re: Best Receive Antenna over Sloping Terrain?
>  (Herbert Schoenbohm)
>   7. ZL3IX (Joe Galicic)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 16:15:24 -0500
> From: garyk9gs 
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L successes
> Message-ID: <6C.55.25924.D6C78A95@dnvrco-omsmta02>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> But being 800+ miles closer to EU (many countries there compared to North 
> America) and a path that is largely over salt water is a huge advantage, 
> particularly on the low bands.
> 
> 
> 73-Gary K9GS?
>  Original message From: Carl  Date: 
> 8/31/17  3:08 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: GaryK9GS , 
> topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L successes 
> Most of LI is glacial sand and only the coastal areas benefit verticals.
> 
> Carl
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "GaryK9GS" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 8:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L successes
> 
> 
>> 
>> I suspect that your success is largely due to your location on Long 
>> Island.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Gary K9GS
>>  Original message From: jayb1...@optonline.net Date: 
>> 8/28/17? 5:22 PM? (GMT-06:00) To: Doug Ellmore , 
>> topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L successes
>> Last fall I installed an ?S-9? 43 ft vertical, added a tapped loading coil
>> at the base, with 10 on-the-ground radials about 100 ft long randomly run
>> all over my 60x90 house plot. Rig is 300 watts - Started on 160 DXCC with
>> 32 entities, finished DXCC in one winter season.
>> My secret: JT65  (tnx K1JT)
>> Try anything ? you will be amazed how successful you can be on top-band
>> with a little patience and VERY modest antennas. 73, Jay NY2NY
>> _
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>> _
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> To: garyk9gs 
> Cc: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L successes
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> Since 1984, only inverted L , no RX antennas, city lot , city noise, inv L ( 
> 70' vertical ), near Toronto, 277 dxcc countries worked and confirmed. Va3dx
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Aug 31, 2017, at 17:15, garyk9gs  wrote:
>> 
>> But being 800+ miles closer to EU (many countries there compared to North 
>> America) and a path that is largely over salt water is a huge advantage, 
>> particularly on the low bands.
>> 
>> 
>> 73-Gary K9GS 
>>  Original message From: Carl  Date: 
>> 8/31/17  3:08 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: GaryK9GS , 
>> topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L successes 
>> Most of LI is glacial sand and only the coastal areas benefit verticals.
>> 
>> Carl
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "GaryK9GS" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 8:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L successes
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> I suspect that your success is largely due to your location on Long 
>>> 

Topband: Fwd: DX signals

[K1FZ-Bruce]

http://www.newsweek.com/fast-radio-bursts-frb-explained-658554


Don't sound like a net beacon.   Ask them if  they QSL.  ((;>))

73
Bruce-K1FZ
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Topband: DX signals

[K1FZ-Bruce]

Don't sound like a net beacon.   Ask them if  they QSL.  ((;>))

73
Bruce-K1FZ
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Topband: ZL3IX

[Joe Galicic]

Big surprise working ZL3IX at 1023Z this morning with only 100 watts and no RX 
antenna up yet.  He was S9 at times !  I saw the spot but was sure I wouldn’t 
be able to hear him.  Boy was I surprised when I tuned to his frequency and 
heard him like he was a local.  The amp wasn’t warmed up yet so I gave him a 
call with 100 watts and he came right back on the first try. 


This is the second time I have experienced this phenomenon on 160.  I worked 
VK3IO last year about the same time of year where he was very strong and easy 
to work.  I will have to pay more attention to 160 this time of year.


Fun !


Joe

N3HEE
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Re: Topband: Best Receive Antenna over Sloping Terrain?

[Herbert Schoenbohm]

Not really if it is a gentle slope since IMHO the arrival angle of the 
incoming signal will most likely not be bothered.  The slope may 
actually attenuate some ground wave noise in those directions a bit thus 
improving the S/N ratio.




Herb, KV4FZOn 9/1/2017 6:37 AM, Ed wrote:
Yes, Herb. I have considered this, too. But I think I may run into the 
same problem with sloping terrain. Thoughts?


On Sep 1, 2017, at 13:13, Herbert Schoenbohm 
> 
wrote:


Since your space is limited to preclude a bunch of Beverages I would 
highly recommend the SAL-30 which is a shared loop array from Array 
Solutions. This is really a high performance antenna and should give 
you every thing you need.


https://www.arraysolutions.com/as-sal-30

Herb, KV4FZ

On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 4:57 AM, Ed via Topband 
> wrote:


Greetings from Saudi Arabia!  I think a lot about my home QTH in
California and how I want to make the most of my antenna potential.

I have an area that I would like to devote to receiving antennas,
that's about 150' square feet. Thought about the DXE Active 4 Sq
array but they say installing this on Sloping terrain will
degrade its performance. In my case, the slope is about 30-35
degrees, so I'm sure that limits me.

The transmitting antenna area is about 300-400 feet away, which
provides adequate isolation from where I want to install a
receiving antenna. Trying to figure out what is most suitable. 
In addition to 160m, I am also interested in BCB DXing and some
the demonstrations viewed on YouTube are quite impressive!

Would really appreciate some input. I can always provide my home
address, where the two antenna areas can be seen on Google Maps.

73,
Ed NI6S/7Z1ES
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Topband: Best Receive Antenna over Sloping Terrain?

[Ed via Topband]

Greetings from Saudi Arabia!  I think a lot about my home QTH in California and 
how I want to make the most of my antenna potential. 

I have an area that I would like to devote to receiving antennas, that's about 
150' square feet. Thought about the DXE Active 4 Sq array but they say 
installing this on Sloping terrain will degrade its performance. In my case, 
the slope is about 30-35 degrees, so I'm sure that limits me. 

The transmitting antenna area is about 300-400 feet away, which provides 
adequate isolation from where I want to install a receiving antenna. Trying to 
figure out what is most suitable.  In addition to 160m, I am also interested in 
BCB DXing and some the demonstrations viewed on YouTube are quite impressive!

Would really appreciate some input. I can always provide my home address, where 
the two antenna areas can be seen on Google Maps. 

73,
Ed NI6S/7Z1ES
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