Re: Topband: Air Wound Coil

2018-08-30 Thread terry burge
Trevor, I have found that winding a coil by hand may not look too hot but for a 160 Meter Inv-L they are easy to do. I use my Hytower with it's 65' radials as the counter poise and run a 12 Gauge multi-strain house wire from Lowes over a big Oak tree. Goes up and over the top and almost starts

Re: Topband: Air Wound Coil

2018-08-30 Thread Wes Stewart
I agree with Rick.  The advantage to the edge-wound inductor is the better heat dissipation; needed because the Q is lower :-) Wes  N7WS On 8/30/2018 5:44 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: On 8/30/2018 3:44 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: You can also get the edge-wound (flat) 1/4 inch by 1/

Re: Topband: Air Wound Coil

2018-08-30 Thread VK3HJ
I wind my air wound coils using 4 mm copper tubing on a form such as a baked bean can. It holds its shape when the form is removed and I then stretch out the coil longitudinally to achieve the pitch required. Inductance can be easily calculated. The copper tubing is very easy to solder and tap

Re: Topband: Air Wound Coil

2018-08-30 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 8/30/2018 3:44 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: You can also get the edge-wound (flat) 1/4 inch by 1/16 inch coil that they use in the ATR-30 rotary coil tuner. That's a killer piece of copper. Actually no. Edge wound is inferior in terms of Q to round wire. It only makes sense for a rotary

Re: Topband: Air Wound Coil

2018-08-30 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
The referenced Ameritron/MFJ part number is an 11 inch coil (aka BMW coil stock of old), coil wound into 4 polystyrene rods. This one is 3 inches diameter, four turns per inch, 10 AWG tinned bare solid copper. This stuff is used in various Ameritron amps as part of the output Pi-L networks. I have

Topband: Air Wound Coil

2018-08-30 Thread Jim Thomson
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 07:44:04 +0100 (IST) From: MR TREVOR DUNNE To: ''topband List' Subject: Topband: Air Wound Coil http://www.mfjenterprises.com/Product.php?productid=404-0669 I've had one on order from MFJ via a UK company for 4 months now and no sign of it, I want to build a at match

Re: Topband: Air Wound Coil

2018-08-30 Thread MR TREVOR DUNNE
Thanks for the replies I want to be able to tap it at various points to allow for some movement up the band, I don't actually know how much inductance as I don't have the antenna in place yet, I wound a Homebrew coil last year but I fancied something tidier this time, I was planning to install

Re: Topband: Air wound coil

2018-08-30 Thread Ralph Parker
>You can see a picture of the coil I wound for my 160M antenna match here, along with some other more complicated link coupled tuners: http://n3qe.org/tuners.html Actual homebrew!  Just like the good ole' days. Beautiful! VE7XF _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contest

Re: Topband: Air Wound Coil

2018-08-30 Thread Brian Pease
I used #10 plastic insulated solid "house wire" salvaged from 2-conductor + ground cable for the small 5 inch dia coil on my 630m inverted-L.  The insulation automatically provides a spacing of about 1 wire diameter and measured Q was 300 at 475kHz. On 8/30/2018 8:31 AM, David Cutter via Topba

Re: Topband: Air Wound Coil

2018-08-30 Thread David Cutter via Topband
If you don't have plastic pipe, select a plastic beaker from the kitchen cupboard. David G3UNA-G6CP -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Don Kirk Sent: 30 August 2018 12:53 To: Tim Shoppa Cc: Trevor; topband Subject: Re: Topband: Air Wound C

Re: Topband: Air Wound Coil

2018-08-30 Thread Don Kirk
To follow up on what Tim said, I often just use PVC pipe for my coil forms and wind my coils using enamel coated wire (16 or 14 gauge enamel coated wire), and to keep things simple I often just use close wound turns (no space between turns). With no space between turns the coil loss will not be mi

Re: Topband: Air Wound Coil

2018-08-30 Thread Tim Shoppa
That is a very nice transmitter tank coil for a kilowatt amplifier. But if you have already calculated or measured the inductance you need, you can just wrap reasonable gauge insulated wire around any cardboard or plastic form you find. I used magnet wire around a cardboard tube. You can see a p

Re: Topband: Air Wound Coil

2018-08-30 Thread Don Kirk
Hi Trevor, I ordered one of those coils from MFJ (Part # 404-0669) on July 6th and it was on back order at that time, and it shipped from MFJ to me on August 1st (when you order one and they are on back order I think it normally takes them less than 1 month to produce new ones based on my experie