Re: Topband: antenna analyzers

2018-10-15 Thread Wes Stewart

I can now verify that the FA-VA5 does just fine on my 160 meter inverted-L.

As an aside, we've had some rain here in Tucson lately and I've observed a 
decrease in the feedpoint Z of about 5 ohm due to increased ground 
conductivity.  Welcome, but I know it's temporary.


Wes  N7WS



On 10/12/2018 1:35 PM, Wes Stewart wrote:
I can vouch for the AA-55 Zoom, although it is not without flaws. I live 5.9 
miles from a 50KW BC station on 1550 kHz.  On my 160-meter inverted-L they are 
70 dB over S9 on a calibrated K3, that's 70 dB above -73 dBm or -3dBm. As long 
as I don't sweep through that frequency, the analyzer is unfazed.  As an 
aside, I have yet to find a low cost SDR that will stand up to this.  I had to 
return a RSP2 Pro that even with BC band filtering folded up like a cheap 
suitcase.


My N2PK VNA works fine as does the DG8SAQ VNWA.  I just last night finished 
building a DG5MK designed FA-VA5, which I suspect will do okay.  It will run 
using the VNWA software too.  Good thing, since so far, the standalone 
interface is wanting, but that could be my failing.  (It's really tough to run 
an instrument this powerful with just three push buttons)


Note that all of these are vector analyzers.

Wes  N7WS


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Re: Topband: Gamma match success

2018-10-15 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist




On 10/15/2018 10:43 AM, Tree wrote:


I replaced the variable cap with a home made cap using RG8.  I had one


Sometimes, capacitors made from coax are lossy.  I modeled your
coaxial capacitor using Simsmith (very easy to do) and the Q turns out 
to be 340, if I did it correctly.  So the coaxial capacitor gets a clean

bill of health and probably doesn't have anything to do with
your broad bandwidth.

Rick N6RK
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Topband: Gamma match success

2018-10-15 Thread Tree
Maybe someone can put together a web page with examples of successful gamma
match configurations for towers.

Here is what I found this weekend with my new tower.

Tower height - 97 feet.
Top loading - 10 foot mast and essentially a 34 foot 3" boom at 98 feet.
This is my Steppir with all of the elements retracted.
Gamma match - attached at 47 feet - made out of a piece of RG8 with the
center/shield connected together.  Spaced about 18 inches away from the
tower.
Capacitor value - something around 400 pf.
Radials: Currently 11 radials - most are around 1/4 wavelength of slightly
longer

At first - I had an SWR around 2.3:1 around 2.3 MHz - but using my variable
capacitor - increased the capacitance and quickly got to a perfect match
around 1800 kHz.  Guess there are not any AM broadcast stations near me as
my MFJ-259B seemed quite happy.

I replaced the variable cap with a home made cap using RG8.  I had one
laying around from a previous installation that looked "about right"
(length was 10 feet or more) and special treatment at the end of the
capacitor to keep it from flashing over (involving a larger ceramic guy
insulator).  This also yielded a perfect mach and I went with that.

Testing with high power this morning didn't show any arcing and the matched
was stable.

The bandwidth seems very broad (maybe somewhat due to the low number of
radials) - however, this does remind me of the first gamma match I did some
32 years ago on a different tower which might have a similar electrical
length as this one.  It gets up to about 2:1 at 2 MHz.
We'll see what happens as I continue to add radials.  Goal is to get to at
least 40 eventually.  The ground here is possible very good...  totally
clay - with no rocks to be found and lots of rain during the winter (57
inches average annual rainfall).

The RX 4 square is physically up and will be QRV soon.  Was able to get it
a good distance from the TX antenna but still on top of the hilltop.

Will appreciate any signal reports during the PreStew.  This is the first
time I have had an antenna like this on a hilltop and I am curious how it
compares to being in the flats.  I have a 600 foot drop-off over about a
mile distance in the important directions.

A quick CQ 5 minutes after sunrise this morning didn't yield any far away
RBS spots other than VE6/VE7.

Tree N6TR / K7RAT
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Re: Topband: Beverage F/B using oscillator

2018-10-15 Thread Ashraf Chaabane

Greg,

I re-did the exercise at 470m distance from both ends of the beverage 
and the F/B has increased to 7db. I was tired to go further in a VERY 
muddy ground but I will test again at near-field edge (around 840m) when 
it gets drier.


Thanks

73 Ash 3V8SF
www.kf5eyy.info

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Hi Ashraf,

The rule of thumb I use is 2D^2 /lambda, where D is the largest
dimension of the antenna. So if your Bev is 320m long you need to be
over a km away. If only 160m long you need to be 300 m away.

73, and I hope to work you one of these days at my SR.

Greg, ZL3IX
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