Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question - Part 2

2018-12-29 Thread Brian Miller
Hi Grant and Todd I suggest there is also potential for a 4th problem - mutual coupling between the vertical wire and supporting tree. Any such coupling would be smaller for the 43 ft vertical if it was located further away from the tree. It would be interesting to see if there is any

Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 192, Issue 33

2018-12-29 Thread Chuck Dietz
Unfortunately, most are just deleting the conversation without reading it like I usually do, because of the title... Chuck W5PR On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 5:31 PM Mike Waters wrote: > On Sat, Dec 29, 2018, 8:58 AM wrote: > > > ... to bring this discussion to the high level technical discussion

Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 192, Issue 33

2018-12-29 Thread Mike Waters
On Sat, Dec 29, 2018, 8:58 AM wrote: > ... to bring this discussion to the high level technical discussion this > group is used to YE! :-) 73, Mike www.w0btu.com _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question - Part 2

2018-12-29 Thread Mike Waters
Exactly! You have a lot of loss in your ground (or something), Todd. Perhaps it's the lack of a proper feedline choke. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Sat, Dec 29, 2018, 11:00 AM Grant Saviers wrote: > Problem #1. The swr indicates about a 140Khz plus < 2:1 bandwidth (2 * > 1880-1810) which implies

Re: Topband: Fwd: Topband Digest -- RX Antenna Performance

2018-12-29 Thread Clive GM3POI
George your last point is a good one. Take any vertical array such an 8 or 9 circle array and point it at a resonant electrical 1/4 wave vertical. The pattern will be destroyed at 200 or 500ft. The TX antenna has to be isolated above ground for the RX antenna to perform properly. So I also suggest

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question - Part 2

2018-12-29 Thread Todd Goins
On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 8:59 AM Grant Saviers wrote: > Problem #1. The swr indicates about a 140Khz plus < 2:1 bandwidth (2 * > 1880-1810) which implies a high radial resistance. Are the elevated > radials fully insulated from trees, not contacting foliage, etc? Add > three more. > Problem #2.

Re: Topband: Fwd: Topband Digest -- RX Antenna Performance

2018-12-29 Thread GEORGE WALLNER
Mike, N4IS (JC) does know what he is talking about. His Waller Flag, however, can be vertical or horizontal. The Horizontal WF (HWF) is certainly a class above all other loops, provided it is more than 100' up. But you can have a Vertical WF at any height -- in fact lower is better. Not as

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvement question - Part 2

2018-12-29 Thread Grant Saviers
Problem #1. The swr indicates about a 140Khz plus < 2:1 bandwidth (2 * 1880-1810) which implies a high radial resistance. Are the elevated radials fully insulated from trees, not contacting foliage, etc? Add three more. Problem #2. Your coiled coax choke may be making things worse. Check

Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 192, Issue 33

2018-12-29 Thread n4is
Hi Dave , Bob and Jay Fist of all thanks Dave and Bob to bring this discussion to the high level technical discussion this group is used to, and my public sincere apologize my friend Jay for my emotional behavior that I regrets. 160m is a unique band that has only one noise component on sky