Re: Topband: FT-8

2019-01-31 Thread K9FD
Aloha Len, Remember those QSOs,  very rare SSB contact as I dont work SSB, but your signal was loud so I gave it a try. Good year for 160,  hoping they will return in the next couple years. 73 Merv  K9FD  ex KH7C Hi Dave and all. Cleaning my radio room but will keep a dear QSL card from year

Re: Topband: FT-8

2019-01-31 Thread lennart.michaelsson
Hi Dave and all. Cleaning my radio room but will keep a dear QSL card from year 2009 stating two different QSOs on SSB, reports 59, 58 and one on CW stating 569 CW. Oh, the card is from KH7C ex K9FD for a two way QSO on 160 between Sweden and Hawaii. That is it! 73 Len SM7BIC -Ursprungligt

Re: Topband: JA's came in droves today on 160

2019-01-31 Thread Ralph Bellas
Different entirely. What is missing is the interaction between people. I literally can call a station and go to the bathroom, returning to see if the computer worked him and I can log it. The technology is cool to hear weak signals, but it is not interactive yet. SSB and AM are

Re: Topband: JA's came in droves today on 160

2019-01-31 Thread Steve Sacco NN4X
Ed - I wasn't around back then, but I'd imagine the exact same thing was said when CW began to replace spark gap, and when SSB began to supplant AM. Just something to think about. 73, Steve NN4X 1. Re: JA's came in droves today on 160 (Edward Sawyer)

Re: Topband: FT-8

2019-01-31 Thread AB2E Darrell
Hi all, I agree with Tony K4QE and the others. Need human interaction or it ain't ham radio any more,. Prior to Stephen Hawking's death, he declared the greatest threat to human existence will be AI "The system goes on-line August 4th, 1997. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense.

Re: Topband: FT-8

2019-01-31 Thread Stephen Hawkins
Dave, On 1/31/19 4:36 PM, daraym...@iowatelecom.net wrote: There is simply no substitute for the real, direct, visceral connection one has with the person on the other end with either CW or SSB modes. I'll be in charge of the QSO, thank you.   Not my computer. 73. . . Dave, W0FLS My

Re: Topband: FT-8

2019-01-31 Thread Anthony Scandurra via Topband
AMEN! TBDXC Member #91 https://www.tbdxc.net 73, Tony K4QE > On Jan 31, 2019, at 5:36 PM, daraym...@iowatelecom.net wrote: > > There is simply no substitute for the real, direct, visceral connection one > has with the person on the other end with either CW or SSB

Re: Topband: FT-8

2019-01-31 Thread daraymond
There is simply no substitute for the real, direct, visceral connection one has with the person on the other end with either CW or SSB modes. I'll be in charge of the QSO, thank you. Not my computer. 73. . . Dave, W0FLS -Original Message- From: cqtestk4xs--- via Topband Sent:

Re: Topband: JA's came in droves today on 160

2019-01-31 Thread Doug Renwick
Ed, I feel exactly the same way you do. Real DXing is operator (person) to operator (person). FT8 is the same as using the internet to make a contact. The end of amateur radio as it was intended. Doug "The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." Albert Einstein

Re: Topband: JA's came in droves today on 160

2019-01-31 Thread terry burge
JWIT, Or to put it, just what I think. Paul's description of how WSPR and FT8 can/is automatic points out what a lot of us object to. It would not be bad IF they had a separate class for DXCC for the digital modes just because it can be like 'shooting fish in a barrel'. Some of us have work

Topband: FT-8

2019-01-31 Thread cqtestk4xs--- via Topband
This thread has been addressed on various reflectors. I've tried it, made around 400 contacts or so, and found the mode pretty boring.  Even with my pileups on FT-8 the mode left me cold.  I felt the same way with RTTY...tried it and found it boring.  Why?  With CW SSB/AM I felt a connection

Re: Topband: JA's came in droves today on 160

2019-01-31 Thread Paul Christensen
>"Soon it may be computers working computers with minimal operator supervision." Already happening with Windows macro commands. Anyone who works me in the sparse instances I'm on FT8 is making a fully-automated contact. When one FT8 contact is complete, macros start another. I may be in the

Re: Topband: JA's came in droves today on 160

2019-01-31 Thread Herbert Schoenbohm
Please also give credit for FT-8 occupying only a few Khz'a around 1840 and compare this to a Top Band CW contest where it is at times difficult to find a clear spot from 1800 to 1950 and even higher. Could you imagine an AM Topband contest as 10 stations each 6 to 10 Hhz wide would pretty much

Re: Topband: "Low-Band-DXing"

2019-01-31 Thread Mike Waters
I loved reading it too, but that is just not going to happen. John has already stated that. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 1:48 PM F Z_Bruce I wish John Devoldere would come out with another, updated "Low-Band > DXing" handbook. I am remembering the hours of wonderful reading. > >

Topband: "Low-Band-DXing"

2019-01-31 Thread F Z_Bruce
I wish John Devoldere would come out with another, updated "Low-Band DXing" handbook. I am remembering the hours of wonderful reading. 73 Bruce-k1fz    _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector

Re: Topband: JA's came in droves today on 160

2019-01-31 Thread Edward Sawyer
Hi Jay. The IP address is actually tied to your device and is picked up and identified on the internet. My point was that the machine deserves the credit for the DXCC. That’s all. I would totally agree with you that if all this was about was RTTY morphing to FT8 then its not very

Re: Topband: JA's came in droves today on 160

2019-01-31 Thread JAYB1943
Ed – the “IP address” and the internet have nothing to do with the FT8 mode other than that’s how you initially download the WSJT-X program...so why is the transition from RTTY to FT8 any different than the transition from AM to SSB again ? jay ny2ny

Re: Topband: JA's came in droves today on 160

2019-01-31 Thread Herbert Schoenbohm
What was interesting to follow was when Central Electronic came out with the first SSB unit and Hallicrafters followed. Art Collins was right behind as his SAC contract needed more efficient and reliable airborne voice communications globally, As a ham, he didn't forget us and market the KWM-1

Re: Topband: JA's came in droves today on 160

2019-01-31 Thread Edward Sawyer
To each his own Herb. Nothing against you. But last I checked – AM morphing to SSB never eliminated the person with the voice and the ears. It just made what was happening more efficient. If the only affect here was RTTY going down the toilet because of FT-8, I agree with you. But when

Re: Topband: JA's came in droves today on 160

2019-01-31 Thread Herbert Schoenbohm
Exactly Ed, Just as SSB did to AM and digital modes are doing to RTTY. Soon it may be computers working computers with minimal operator supervision. Right now on FT-8 when statins call my CQ they are answered and sent a signal report automatically and the logging is done with a single point and

Re: Topband: JA's came in droves today on 160

2019-01-31 Thread Edward Sawyer
Such is the new trend. No offense to KV4FZ whatsoever but if you provide the easy path.most will take it. The only way to affect the "easy way out" is to not provide it. I remember year's ago doing CQ WW CW ABLP as C6ARS in 2001. I ended the contest on 15M running a couple of hundred JAs.