Re: Topband: VP6D QSL received VP6D ( 160 m )
Congratulations Nick. Glad you made it into the log. 73, Les W2LK (VP6D Team) On 2/21/2019 7:34 AM, uy0zg wrote: Hi All Photo QSL on the site : http://www.topband.in.ua _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: Anyone else hear these?
Fishing beacons? Les W2LK On 12/16/2017 3:19 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: From time to time I'm hearing some non-ham stations transmitting on 1823 and 1829 KHz. These signals typically pop up as steady carriers then identify in Morse and disappear. I've heard IDs of 4OMD, 4NAF and 4NAG. Ideas? Wes N7WS _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: 8 element antenna - Amplifier placement
Gary, Sounds like a normal antenna raising day in the woods. Your antenna will probably work fine now. Don't ask me how I know that... 73, Les W2LK On 9/25/2016 1:22 AM, Gary Smith wrote: A little follow-up with my life in the fast lane... I move slowly, all considering, kind of like Ahab with a pair of shoes. I've been spending the better part of the last two weeks putting up a HI-Z 4-8Pro array. If it were open space with good soil, all would have been done after the first 1-2 days. But no, I live in New England, the place where the Glacier's Gall Stones came to rest after it encountered Global Warming. The place I have to put the array in is like a Louisiana Bayou minus the standing water. It's a salt marsh and just a bit above sea level. I don't have an option where else to put it, this is it. We're known for Lyme disease, Lyme, CT is 10 miles west of here so tick protection is mandatory. Worse, this is Bambi's frolic-land and deer sign is everywhere. More, we're blessed to have West Nile and of course Zeka is getting all kinds of press. So pyrethrin and DEET 40 is the cologne de jour. You can't imagine the scale of the rocks here, it really boggles the imagination. So much stone 5" below the surface and muck on top of them. Some boulders above ground are the size of Volkswagens and most showing are like an iceberg with the greater mass underneath. This place has one other unusual issue in that in a storm surge, at high tide, salt water can get in there and will ruin everything. So to outwit the tide, I moved the amplifiers up inside the PVC tubes and used a rubber cap to hold the amp high enough that if the water rises, it won't reach the electronics as there will be an air pocket inside to keep everything out of harm's way. I posted this pic earlier of what I did: doctorgary.net/Hi-Z-8-Pro-3.jpg It will work just fine to keep the amps safe.. Of course there are the briars, brambles everywhere that are strong enough to stop an Iron Man in his tracks, not to mention the bittersweet vines that make walking in a straight line impossible. I staked out the proper placements for the 8 antennae, 4 times, before I found an acceptable spot rock-wise but the trees were unforgiving and ended up cutting down 7 rather large trees to make room. Of course the Poison Ivy is everywhere and the last spot I had to deal with branches & rock-wise had a hairy 5" root of Poison Ivy going up the tree with branches hanging out right in the way of the antenna. The Oak was too thick for my 20" chain saw so I had to remove the tree branches and the poison ivy. I couldn't reach the branches 20' up and my extendible saw/pruner could only reach the poison ivy. Ended up slicking the vine at knee level and leaving it die for a few days. I tried a rope saw but it got stuck 1/2" in and was useless. Then I remembered the extra elements I ordered from DXE and connected the large ones & duct taped the pruner to the aluminum and was able to reach the branches. Between the tree sawdust and the poison Ivy Sawdust, it was a glorious time. Finally , success! The local metal shop cut my aluminum angle for the ground/support rods, so today I hoped to sink all the angles, using a Stainless Steel angle as a probe to find what worked. Great success, I get to the last place I had marked out as correct, put the knapsack with all my tools down, pull out the SS angle and pound in the Aluminum and there it was, the sound like small Harley Davidsons on a mission from God, the ground wasps that I had put my knapsack down on their entrance were angry and knew I was to blame. Give me three good Honey Bee stings, one yellow Jacket sting but nothing inch for inch is more painful than these guys, they are just mean. They stung me several times and I proved Ahab can still run if the prize is worth enough. I couldn't get my tools, there were constantly 3-4 dozen of these in the air swarming everything I had laid down. Some Hornet killer later and I could get close enough with a stick to wrangle my tools out but the damage was done time-wise, I couldn't finish before dark. So I finished assembling the antennas, have them ready to connect to the controller and tomorrow I get to connect up all the coax, the terminals, everything outside and I'm good to go. My ear is the size of a Cauliflower but at last count it was Wasps 5, Gary 100, that wasp stuff really works... Looking forward to hearing with this marvellous Antenna system. Oh, and I left out so much more of the saga... ;) 73, Gary KA1J I'm so close to being done with putting this together. I have all 8 antennas made @ 23' each the tip section is .5" and the base is .850" I'm using a 3/4" fiberglass rod as an insulator doctorgary.net/Hi-Z-8-Pro-1.jpg doctorgary.net/Hi-Z-8-Pro-2.jpg I am having a conundrum with the placement of the enclosure for the preamp mounted at each antenna and need some advice. The problem is I am at sea level and the antennas will be mounted in a
Re: Topband: 80m FT4JA
I worked them on 80M last night at 0015Z. Couldn't really hear them well enough on 160 for anything but hoping. Les W2LK On 3/31/2016 8:58 AM, donov...@starpower.net wrote: Hi Jim, FT4JA was very weak with lots of deep QSB here last night, They would peak up to S5 for a few seconds then fade into the noise for a few minutes. In two hours of listening I heard only one complete QSO: mine! But there were others, I just didn't copy them completely in the QSB. 73 Frank W3LPL - Original Message - From: "Jim Brown"To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 5:55:27 AM Subject: Re: Topband: 80m FT4JA East coast was calling them on 160 around 0300Z, and then they stopped. The spot was 1820.5 kHz. All I heard were the callers. 73 , Jim K9YC On Wed,3/30/2016 8:25 PM, MU 4CX250B wrote: Had a weak opening into NM for about 10 mins from 0040-0050 UTC at 3538. Got them on second call, but nothing but QRN afterwards. Nothing on 160m. Jim W8ZR _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: A35T QRG change
I couldn't hear a peep yesterday from about 1015Z and today from about 1045Z until our sunrise at 1140Z. I did hear VY2ZM and K8PO and another K1 in MA work them yesterday. Today, not one call to them. 73, Les W2LK On 2/24/2016 9:30 AM, Bob Lawson wrote: I've been losing a lot of sleep trying to hear A35T on TB without an RX antenna, but this morning I woke up just before sunrise here in Prescott AZ and there they were calling CQ with a great signal. After working them right away, they stayed Q5 for ten minutes after sunrise. A friend with a flag RX antenna in So Cal couldn't hear a trace. I wonder if a spotlight fell on my area. 73 all de Bob N6RW On 2/23/2016 5:40 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: Thanks for avoiding 1820.0 That frequency always has QRM on it. Rick N6RK On 2/23/2016 4:38 PM, Anthony DeBiasi wrote: Tonight listen for them on 1821.5, they will be listening up. 73, Tony K2SG A35T Pilot _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: VP8STI last night - Report from Maryland
Glad you made it Gary. 73, Les W2LK On 1/22/2016 10:54 PM, Gary Smith wrote: Bill, Never say never. I worked them at 02:13 last night (Thanks Roger for the email today saying you'd heard the contact). It was right after they stopped working EU and I was waiting patiently on frequency till I heard them CQ without the EU designator. The Hi-Z triangular was a saving grace for me, I would like one of the Hi-Z 8A variety. Anyone have one to let go of? I'm also interested in a NCC-1; contact me off list if you would. 73, Gary KA1J From Maryland, FM 19: Armchair copy last nite from 2350Z until 0215Z this morning. Some fading. With my headphones laying on the bench, they were Q5 solid copy while I was working on other projects waiting for them to call for "NA" instead of "EU". Never happened. I stayed & listened until 0215Z when they faded out here. I'm using a Hi-Z 4-sq. Azimuth heading to VP8S is 155 Deg. 4-SQ heading used was 134 Deg. Bill N3RR -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ken Boasi Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 12:18 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: VP8STI last night Just my observations from what happened here last night in NY (doesn't help you west coast guys, I guess). VP8STI was solid copy from my sunset around 2230z until 0200z. Very little fading and Q5 copy. They were calling and working EU only during this period. Around 0200z, their signal got much weaker and more susceptible to QSB. They also started calling for anyone at that time, not just EU. I don't know if they switched direction on their TX array or not at that point, but things did get worse at that point; propagation I'm assuming. I use two 560' beverages to receive, one at 135 degrees and one at 180 degrees. No diversity rx, just switching back and forth. They were the same copy on both antennas, generally, since both are about the same amount "off" of STI's hearing from here (FN13, western NY). I didn't listen much after 0200z, so I don't know if their signal came back up at any point. They did have an excellent run of EU during that 2200-0200 time frame, though. 73, Ken N2ZN On Jan 22, 2016, at 11:11 AM, Tomwrote: N6SS is located about 40 miles north west of me in AZ,, 2800 feet higher in elevation and a lot quieter location,,and better receiving antennas,, I have not heard but just traces past 2 nights,, will be there tonight,, been listening to the east coast guys working them,, all signals have been great except Vp8!! Congrats to all that have worked them and maybe tonite the propagation gods will shine west!!! 73's Tom -Original Message- From: Tree Sender: "Topband" Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 06:57:33 To: 160 Subject: Topband: VP8STI last night in Oregon At least in my location - I would say that things were no better last night. N6SS in Arizona said he worked them just after 0400Z. There was also a report that he came back to N6MB about 10 times around 0430Z - but N6MB was not hearing him. The data suggests they are hearing better than getting out - which means if you can hear them - the spotlight is shining on you and you have a pretty good chance of making the QSO. If it was easy - it wouldn't be as rewarding when it happens!! Good luck to all. 73 Tree N6TR Hillsboro, OR _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: K5P signal strength
Apparently, they had problems tuning the Battle Creek Special and were using a SteppIR vertical the first day. That's been fixed and was what they were using today. It's bad enough they were working JA's during this morning's opening but I heard them call EU too and was shaking my head. Les W2LK On 1/15/2016 7:23 AM, Tim Shoppa wrote: Heard very well here in MD from 1120Z-1220Z on my west-facing pennant, deep fade at my sunrise to ESP. Working mostly JA's but trying for NA. (Although at least once K5P called for EU!) Tim N3QE On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 5:48 AM, Carl Braunwrote: At 1040z here in so cal the K5P station went from NIL to 599 on Topband. Maybe someone found the ON button for the amp? Carl AG6X _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: Band opening?
Bill, Spot Collector, a program in the free DXLab Suite, can do this. It is capable of collecting spots from up to four internet sources simultaneously and displaying them on the screen in real time. It has extensive filtering capabilities so you could set a filter for 160 spots from NA East for needed countries, for example, and have the system send you an email when a filtered spot shows up. Les, W2LK On 1/3/2016 10:00 AM, K4OWR wrote: Now that I have your attention Is there any method anyone knows of to receive email or a text message when there is DX present on 160 meters? I subscribe to several, but none of them seems to include 160 in the "notification" check box. Perhaps we could create one? I know this group is supposed to be for contestors, but let's be honest, loads of other things are discussed. BILL K4OWR _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: V73D question
This morning I could hear them S5-6 on 80M and worked them there but they were clearly having trouble hearing. On 160M I couldn't hear them at all although I heard stations calling them around 1015UTC. Their web site says they have high noise levels on 80 and 160 from the resort hotel they are. 73, Les W2LK in upstate NY On 10/23/2015 4:24 PM, Mike Waters wrote: How well are they hearing central and eastern North America on 160? http://v73d.mydx.de doesn't list any RX antennas. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Kenneth Grimmwrote: I copied them briefly at sunrise in Virginia. The only beverage I could hear them on was one pointed due west...and even then they were well water weak. _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: FT5ZM
Gary, I know I heard you in there last night and I think they got you OK. I heard them come back to K2QMF very clearly. 73, Les W2LK On 2/3/2014 6:02 PM, Gary Smith wrote: Yes, anything is possible. I got a couple of emails last night from guys saying they heard the Q but between those bastard jammers QSB on a really faint signal, I am not 100% I heard a TU in return, I thought I did. I did hear their report but did they hear mine back? I might have ended up not in the log. I really don't want to add to the noise of others trying to make the Q if I'm already in the log, FT5 is so difficult to make on TB on the east coast/central NA and I want all of us to get it. I really don't feel good about having at it again because of not knowing I guess I have to. 73, Gary KA1J Gary, I know I worked them on 40 SSB last night, and I do not appear in the log. So, I checked about a dozen other guys in the spots for 40 SSB last night who supposedly worked them after I did. None of them appear in the log either. Methinks there are some bands missing in today's upload! 73, Tony K4QE On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Gary Smith g...@ka1j.com wrote: Rats, back in the chase, must have been a slim. Just checked clublogs FT5ZM log and the 160M Q didn't show up but my 17M contact an hour a half later did. I know I heard them come back to me so it must have been a slim but geez with the signals like they were, it sure sounded like their signal. Ugh... Gary KA1J Fingers crossed it wasn't a slim I worked. The signals were in out but for 4-5 minutes I could hear them clearly. Time'll tell. If I did get him it was greatly because the kiddies weren't playing so hard today. 73, Gary KA1J --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: K9W at their sunset, FB copy on 160 CW
Nice going. I worked them at 1121Z, ten minutes before my sunrise this AM. Good signal and little QRM. Inverted L and a beverage. Les W2LK On 11/6/2013 10:55 AM, Mark Lunday wrote: I am paying for it today, but it was worth it to stay up until 2:30 AM local East Coast time this morning to work K9W. No crowds, no lids. QRN from lightning in Midwest, but the HiZ 4 square made the signal Q5 easy copy. These ops are top notch, which helps too. Mark Lunday, WD4ELG Greensboro, NC FM06be wd4...@arrl.net http://wd4elg.blogspot.com _ Topband Reflector _ Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: Beverage Woes
I use ladder line from the Wireman and from Davis RF. I think the conductors are copper plated solid steel. I bought 1/4 thick 2 wide strips of acrylic from McMaster Carr and made a pair of clamps of 6 long pieces by cutting grooves for the wire thickness, two holes for ss bolts and one for a rope. These clamp the ends tightly and the acrylic is useable outdoors. The ladder line is supported every 50 -75 feet by a 3-4 piece of pvc wide enough to easily pass the ladder line and with a large and small hole in it. The small hole is for a screw into a convenient tree and the large is to pass the screwhead. Where there were no trees, mainly a swampy area, I used metal fence posts with a piece of pvc over the post with a bolt through limit how far down it slides on the post and a T on the top end. The ladder line passes through the T. The supports are at the end only. The ladder line has a twist every 3 or 4 feet and rides easily through the pvc supports. This has been up for at least three years and has survived tree limbs, frost, snow and people with no problems to date. I think I have pictures of the clamps if anyone is interested. Les W2LK On 10/23/2013 5:46 PM, Mike Waters wrote: Whatever you use for wire, it needs to float at the supports. Anchor it at only one end and tension it tightly at the other end. I use my own ladder line, made from .061 diameter plated steel electric fence wire and spacers made from 1/4 dia. plastic coat hangers. Supports are 10' high and 100' apart. It's taken a lot of abuse, including large tree branches falling on it and a porch roof hurled against it by a small tornado. Some supports broke during the flying porch roof incident, but the wires never broke either time. WD-1A military telephone wire works well, if you have the right impedance matching transformers. Having said all this, I know that a lot of Topbanders use that brown plastic window line for their Beverage antennas. Which kind lasts? 73, Mike http://www.w0btu.com/Beverage_antennas.html _ Topband Reflector _ Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: Inv-L joy
I do the same thing except I hang a 4 plastic clothes line pulley from the rope. The antenna wire runs through the pulley. Ended all the abrasion issues and I can easily lower the pulley if necessary. The actual antenna wire is from DavisRF. 73, Les W2LK On 7/23/2013 4:55 AM, Gary Smith wrote: My Inv-l came down again. Went out to see what happened and another storm weakened tree came down it's upper branches brought my antenna down with it. I really need to use a better wire than 8 strand computer cable for the antenna. This CAT-8 wire comes down at least 2-3 times a year. Since I use a spud gun with fishing reel attached to get the antenna up through the trees I am limited in what wire I can use to get up there. I don't have pulleys available with what I have to do the wire is subject to the constant friction of moving limbs the insulation wears away soon enough. I hesitate to buy expensive wire as once the insulation wears away there will be arcing to a branch. Years ago I used to use old telephone wire, the heavily insulated solid conductor zip cord like drop wire but that's not available to me any more. Any suggestion as to a good rugged wire? 73, Gary KA1J _ Topband Reflector _ Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: Problem with compression F connectors on Quad RG-6
Mike, Here's a link to an article on crimp UHF connectors with suppliers. It's from 2008 so the prices may have changed: http://www.eham.net/articles/19257 Today, you can get a crimp tool from a number of suppliers ranging from the low $30s and up. I have been using RF Industries UHF Crimp connectors with RG213 and LMR400 for years with excellent results. Make sure you have the correct connector for the coax you are using. I always solder the center conductor in the connector rather than crimping it. No more connector problems, no shorts or melted dielectric, etc. and much faster and easier to get it right. W3LPL and others have mentioned many times that the extra cost of the connectors is small compared to the cost of the entire installation and is worth it to reduce or eliminate a common point of failure. Les W2LK On 5/8/2013 6:16 PM, Michael Tope wrote: On 5/7/2013 7:55 PM, Tom W8JI wrote: LMR400 or any cable, in sensitive applications, requires a solid bond to the shield that carries the vast majority of return current. In the case of almost all cables on HF and higher, that is the innermost foil. Of course it is different at audio or lower frequencies. One common connector problem comes from not forcing the woven shield tight against the foil at the connector, or having the foil or woven shield tarnish or corrode. The path to the inside of the foil is out on the braid to an eventual contact point, then back on the outside of the foil to the foil edge. At the edge current can go inside. This is like adding 2X the length of the path to the connection point in overall shield connection path length. (Current can also get in across the edge of a longitudinal seam, if the seam's overlap is insulated. The problem with that is the seam can kill UHF performance.) If you solder to the shield of LMR400, and put it on a network analyzer and measure the stub characteristics, many times (not always) it will move around as the cable is flexed. This is because the soldering heat contracts the dielectric, releasing pressure between the braid overlay and the foil. Now you have a crummy connection that changes electrical length of the connection to the real shield. Even if you do things right, once the foil and braid develop an oxide layer the connection goes away. This can work its way out for several feet of cable length, really messing up a cable. This will not show with a single shield. Cables with foil have to be installed and treated correctly. The more layers you add, the more careful we must be. Since the extra layers are pretty much meaningless, the best practice is to avoid them. Use a good shield against the center and connect to it at the connector. Tom, I'll have to admit that I haven't given this much thought, but what you are saying about the foil to braid contact makes perfect sense. I do recall one friend who is a rabid VHF/UHF repeater builder complaining that LMR-400 has issues with IMD. Perhaps this is why. Can you recommend a source for a good LMR-400 crimp connectors and the corresponding installation tools? To date I've been soldering PL-259s on all the LMR-400 I've used as if it were regular single shield RG8. I haven't had any hard failures, but clearly there is some risk to doing this depending on the application. In fact I do recall some phantom inter-station QRM that would come and go when we had an SO2R setup running at W6UE some years back. Some of the coax used in that setup was LMR-400 with soldered PL-259s. 73, Mike W4EF. All good topband ops know how to put up a beverage at night. _ Topband Reflector All good topband ops know how to put up a beverage at night. _ Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: Voltage along coax feeder
Dave, For design parameters check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias_tee I use a home brew one for reversing remote beverages which is a .1uf cap and any small rf choke in the 100uh and up range that will handle relay current. In my case the relay current I used as a minimum design level was 150ma. You can buy them or use a binocular core and wind one. I use only +/- 12v dc, not ac. 73, Les W2LK On 3/26/2013 4:48 PM, David Cole wrote: Could anyone please point me in the direction of a circuit to feed +12 -12 and AC along the feeder to my beverages to switch 3 relays - thanks all from Dave in the UK All good topband ops know fine whiskey is a daylight beverage. _ Topband Reflector All good topband ops know fine whiskey is a daylight beverage. _ Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: PT0S
I heard the same thing you did Gary but I wasn't able to break the pileup on either band. I hope I can eventually get through what is among the worst intentional QRM on a DX station that I have heard. 73, Les W2LK On 11/12/2012 12:37 AM, Gary K9GS wrote: Tonight PT0S was on 80M...big pile-up. Then went to 160 with a good signal. At the same time they were on 160 they also showed on 80M again. This time the 80M op was clearly not the same one as before. At about the same time HA8RM reported the 'bad 80M station was S9 +20 in EU. I checked 160 at the same time and they were still there. A little later they went QRT on 160M and went back to 80M. This time the same good op as earlier. I worked them both with the good op and the bad op on 80. Hopefully one of those QSO's will be a good one. I hope they are able to upload logs.WFWL in the meantime. On 11/11/2012 9:28 PM, Bob K6UJ wrote: I know the feeling! Not sure if you are in the log... Hope you made it ! I havent been successful yet with making a contact but there is still a week to go. It is great to see a DXPedition put emphasis on 160 and 80 for a change ! 73, Bob K6UJ On Nov 11, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Gary Smith wrote: An ATNO! No question on line logs are a benefit to the chase, definitely saves the need for insurance QSOs and the resultant QRM and loss of needed contacts by those QRMed out of the game. There was a large amount of QRN tonight when I worked PT0S and and with that, it'll be nice to see the on-line log just to be sure. Gary KA1J They are reporting very limited i-net access, so it could be awhile . -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of John Harden Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 1:37 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: PT0S Does anyone have info on when the PT0S logs will be up on the internet? ___ Topband reflector - topband@contesting.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5388 - Release Date: 11/11/12 ___ Topband reflector - topband@contesting.com ___ Topband reflector - topband@contesting.com ___ Topband reflector - topband@contesting.com ___ Topband reflector - topband@contesting.com
Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna
Bryan, Use RG-6 direct burial or equivalent for the beverage connection. No need to use LMR400. You should be able to find it relatively inexpensively. Make sure you have a matching transformer for the beverage impedance to 72 ohms for the RG-6. W8JI.com will give you just about all the information you need to make a transformer. Les W2LK On 11/9/2012 12:28 AM, Buck wh7dx wrote: After some more reading... It looks like NE is the best approach. Point it towards North America. I can probably get it pointed at the lower states. I wasn't sure if I wanted to go bi-directional or not and try and get Australia / NZ but I think I'll go for quiet and just try NA for now. I will need to take it up about 50-75 feet from the feed point I would guess. I don't now if an elevated beverage would be a negative. The ground is mostly hard old volcanic ash with loose dirt here and there.. just enough to make you fall down It's usually always dry and I'm thinking it is a very poor ground. Drill a few holes for copper ground rods on both side? Put about 10 radial wires on the rods and spread them around. In Hawaii I'm thinking bailing wire but it will rust. Fence wire isn't common. Question.. I was going to start the beverage pretty close to the 40, 80 160 dipole in the tree.. I'm low on LMR400. Last of my spool. If it was important, I could order more from mainland and start it higher on the mountain - giving me a more horizontal antenna. Should I be concerned with the beverage distance, using it for receiving and probably on a different radio? Thank you. Bryan WH7DX [CONFIDENTIALITY AND PRIVACY NOTICE] Information transmitted by this email is proprietary to Mr. Mrs. B and is intended for use only by the individual or entity to which it is addressed, or where ever the hell it ends up, and will almost certainly contain information that will offend a large portion of the population, which isn't our concern. If you are not the intended lucky recipient, or it appears that this mail has been forwarded to you without the proper authority of the Wizard of Email or Al Gore, you are notified that any thought, use, or consumption of this email is entirely your choice. In such case, Bon AppetitNote: A $.02 Internet Tax was charged for receiving this email and all funds were given to some family somewhere in America or the U.N Have a nice day. ___ Topband reflector - topband@contesting.com ___ Topband reflector - topband@contesting.com
Re: Topband: THE ITINERANT 160 METER ANTENNA PROJECT
On Lord Howe Island last summer, on 160M, we deployed a Spiderbeam 18M fiberglass telescopic pole with a 1/4 wave wire taped to it. The excess wire came off the top like an inverted L and was tied to a convenient fence. There were two sets of 4 light synthetic rope guys to ground stakes. We had a bunch of radials made of electric fence wire on the ground and a small matching network at the base. Light, easy to erect, shippable, not too expensive and worked very well. I believe we will have the same antenna on Campbell Island in November. No engineering required except for the matching network. Les W2LK On 7/30/2012 8:32 PM, bills stuff wrote: The plan is to develop a simple, relatively inexpensive, relatively light weight and shippable/airline transportable 160 antenna kit for one man quick deployment for modest DXpeditions or contributed for use by resident hams in rare-ish (for 160 m) locations.The ability to make adjustments to actual deployments to provide matching is important since such antennas are famously variable due to soil and local obstruction environment and there should not be a need for antenna matching hardware, especially at the planned higher powers. First cut electrical design:Inverted L using telescoping aluminum tubes, two elevated radials and hairpin matching. Mechanical features of a prototype that was deployed: 9 Alum tubes 6', .058 walls, 2 diameter through 1 diameter -- this gives a 50' or 15.3 m mast (it can be pulled upright by 1 person, or probably telescoped up also) #14 wire ~ 28 m for top wire and 2X ~34 m radials (values after some adjustment, not unique, some tradeoff between the top and radials) Base - 2 thicknesses of Walmart (cheap 8X11) ¼ plastic cutting board resting on ground with a ~ 1.5 wood cylinder bolted in the center.SO-239 connector screwed to the board. Guys -- 4X 3/32 dacron rope attached at 7 tube height, angled at ~ 45deg Guys held down by sandbags (very effective and moveable) Inv L top wire end was at ~ 2.5 m height with a support of opportunity (e.g., a tree) ~ 25 m from base Radials have their closest support near the base from plastic rings looped through each of an opposite pair of the guys at ~ 6 m high and 6 m from the mast.The radials therefore go from the base to the rings at about a 45 degree angle.(Elevating the base and everything else, by a meter did not seem to affect the impedance.Beyond that, supports of opportunity were used - above neck height is always nice. This produces, with some fiddling with wire lengths, an impedance around 20 -- j20 which can be matched using a practical hairpin coil shunt of inductive reactance ~ 45 ohms ( 4 microHenrys, say 5 turns 4 dia). More details of the test case including the EZNEC example are shown on my website.There are obviously a number of ways this design could be modified/improved, several discussed on the website.However, the tradeoffs with size, weight and complexity must be considered in the light of the mission here which includes transportability and ease of deployment. I am looking for collaborators to contribute ideas to help improve, and potentially, test design issues.Check out the website at http://n6mw.ehpes.com http://n6mw.ehpes.com/ for the Itinerant 160 m antenna project expanded discussion toward the bottom. The immediate target is designing and assembling a respectable 160 m antenna that might go to KH8 on a DXpedition. Bill, N6MW billsstuff(at)gotsky.com ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Beverage Antennas Trees
Wayne, That's what mine does with the same components. Works fine. Les W2LK On 6/18/2012 2:45 PM, Wayne Willenberg wrote: I am preparing to install a reversible Beverage antenna, using 450 Ohm ladderline. All of the components are from DX Engineering. The maximum length I could fit on my property was 480ft. This would be the first of my receive antennas for my first venture into 160 and 80M. Here is my concern. To fit an antenna of that length, oriented in a N-E or S-W direction, it will have to go through a think grove of trees (many are over 75ft high) and an even thicker underbrush of younger trees and junk growth. Despite all of the trees, I think I can keep it pretty much in a straight line. How significant will the attenuation be caused by all of the branches and leaves? Thanks for your help to a newcomer to your band. Wayne, KK6BT ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: 4 Direction Reversible Beverages Remote Control via Coax Feedline
Walt, Having done just that, here is what I did: I have an Ameritron RCS-8V remote 5 port antenna switch at the support point for one of the Beverages. The other beverage termination is connected to this switch through a run of direct burial RG-6. Unused ports on this switch are not grounded. In the shack I have a bias-T to inject a control voltage to reverse either beverage when needed. One beverage controller is DX Engineering and one is homebrew and both have a bias T to handle the reversing relay voltage. At the moment, I use the control box for the Ameritron to automatically switch beverage directions. This is done with a diode matrix between the control box and the control lines going to the remote switch. The positions of the control box switch are labeled NE, SE, SW, NW. The 5th position is not currently used but will be used for another single wire beverage later this summer. The matrix either does or does not inject the reverse control voltage depending on the position of the controller switch. You need a diode in each control line to the remote switch plus another for each position that you want to inject the reversing voltage. This diode provides +12V to the relay on the bias T injector. In my case, NE is forward to Eu and SW is reverse and requires the diode to inject the reversing voltage. Each diode must point in the direction of the remote switch because the controller outputs +12V to the active position and must be rated for the relay current of 80-100ma and the control voltage with a safety margin. If you want, I can supply the schematic of the system I use. 73, Les W2LK On 4/15/2011 3:06 PM, k2waltk wrote: Hey all, I was wondering if anyone has built a circuit to control the switching of a pair of two-wire reversible beverages, using only the coaxial feed to carry the control signals. The usual design calls for 3 DPDT relays. One relay is used for beverage selection and one each for direction and unused port termination. In other words, one relay for the NE/SW directions, another relay for the NW/SE directions and the third relay is used to select between the two reversible beverages. The truth table is straight forward, but the circuitry to accomplish this is beyond this old, feeble brain addled with advanced CRS. I can't figure out the circuitry (diode matrix?) to route the control signals to the 3 relays. I understand how to isolate DC from RF, through the bias-T method and I've seen designs using positive, negative and AC to accomplish 'generic' remote antenna switching. Maybe I can use a similar method to build the control switch back at the shack and the remote relay box. Any of your suggestions, diagrams or references would be greatly appreciated. 73 de Walt - K2WK Gordonsville, VA ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK