Topband: VK0EK confirmation.

[DXer via Topband]

Forgive me for this intrusion. I was until now a 100% read only member 
of this list.


I would like to say that free speech is not really free. It should still 
follow common sense rules. Ok... bad example, common sense is not that 
common either. :^))


And just for context, whether the other fellow is a 'cheap skate', or 
living on a fixed disability pension, is irrelevant.


It did come across as a public humiliation. I don't know the 'ofending' 
party in person. I just hope he is not one of those that mutates when 
online. :^)


Finally, I do appreciate his contributions, no question about it. I 
would ask him to continue educating us on the technical aspects of the 
hobby, but if it's an all or nothing deal, then it's not a price I'm 
willing to pay.


Respectfully submitted.

Vince, VA3VF

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Re: Topband: VK0EK confirmation

[James Rodenkirch]

I stand behind my "criticism" of Mr. Brown's "treatment" of a fellow, foreign 
ham!

I received numerous private e-mails thanking me for stating the obvious (the 
kindest comment made about him was his arrogance, the remainder describe him 
pointedly more acerbic, etc.) AND stating they had written the reflector 
manager to post their displeasure re his reply to that SP ham who asked an 
innocent question.

Being eccentric while verbally or, in writing, looking down one's nose at 
someone are mutually exclusive "actions" --- i.e., one does not beget the 
other...except in the case of K9YC! 

One is correct when one states, "You can personally filter-out or just neglect 
content from those you
consider less relevant in your in-box." That works for me, one of many "outside 
viewers/readers".it does NOT work for the offended person, in this case 
the SP ham, who asked an innocent query and, then, got taken to the "verbal 
wood shed"  save your protestation-type indignations for some other 
forumI doubt if you'll find much empathy or sympathy here...especially if 
the call sign K9YC is introduced in to the discussion early on!

71.5/72 de Jim Rodenkirch K9JWV

P.S. I don't care one wit what latest "award" Mr. Brown garnered lately 
--- 


From: Doug Renwick <ve...@sasktel.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 11:37 AM
To: 'Mark van Wijk'; 'James Rodenkirch'; 'Top Band Contesting'
Subject: RE: Topband: VK0EK confirmation

>From time to time there are those on this list who believe that the regular
lynching of a member is required. These lynchers and SJW decided it was K9YC
s turn to be lynched because of his free speech. More signs of 'gentlemen's
band' decay.

Doug

I wasn't born in Saskatchewan, but I got here as soon as I could.

-Original Message-

Jim,

This "referee" should act only if people start calling each other names or
call
for a public crucifiction or such.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and response.

You can personally filter-out or just neglect content from those you
consider
less relevant in your in-box.

On a forum like this there will always be the eccentrics, those who are at
the
'edge of the spectrum'.

Sure those are different from the general bubble, sometimes "lack tact" and
because of their nature, are not capable of submitting a "good natured
reply" as
you correctly named it.

Diplomacy is (scientifically) counter effective in their view. And some
shoot at
everything.

And like Einstein, they are arguably not your cute looking next neighbor.

But very much like K9YC, from time to time they also share empirical
knowledge,
something which is a lot more useful than just repeating theoretic content
from
other writers books.

Also there one can argue to some extent, based on personal other results/
experiences on the topic and still be free to continue thinking otherwise.

The eccentrics (sometimes called Gurus) in our hobby offer plenty of
knowledge
on their websites too. We use that to read, try and learn by doing. Maybe to
find the content offers the same result at our QTH, maybe not.

I cannot imagine we would want to avoid the K9YC's of this world.

I hope they continue their act.

I also often skip their, and other peoples' content if I think it is not
relevant to me.


73
Mark, PA5MW



> Op 18 april 2016 om 20:35 schreef James Rodenkirch
<rodenkirch_...@msn.com>:
>
> I don't know who the "referee" is for this august reflector.BUT, read
> below, puleez,
>
> by doing the following:
>
> - find every spot where I annotated K9YC's acerbic and uncalled for
replies to
> SP6EQZ's initial
>  post by inserting "K9YC replied"
>
> - label K9YC as an "ugly American" and, PULEZ, put him, FINALLY, on
notice
> to "clean up his act"
>  or disappear into the internet ether..
>
> - send a personal e-mail to SP6EQZ and apologize for this exhibited
boorish
> behavior...PULZ!!!
>
> How embarrassing!!! Sheesh
>
> Aside note: I got pissed off enuff at K9YC for his acerbic replies to
several
> past posts of mine.and
>
> enjoyed reading several private e-mails from other subscribers regarding
his
> lack of tact and ability
>
> to submit a "good natured reply," vice the caustic, unfriendly notes he's
> noted for. BUT, this latest edition
>
> makes his forays into my "backyard" pale by comparison!!
>
> Run this dood out of town if it keeps up!!
>
> 72 de Jim R. K9JWV
>
> On Mon,4/18/2016 2:56 AM, Andrzej_SP6AEG wrote:
>
> Courtesy of my friend Wlodzimierz Herej SP6EQZ paid a donation of $ 10 for
> VK0EK.
>
> K9YC replied: Sounds like you're one of the last of the big spenders!
>
> To 

Re: Topband: VK0EK confirmation

[Doug Renwick]

>From time to time there are those on this list who believe that the regular
lynching of a member is required. These lynchers and SJW decided it was K9YC
s turn to be lynched because of his free speech. More signs of 'gentlemen's
band' decay.

Doug

I wasn't born in Saskatchewan, but I got here as soon as I could.

-Original Message-

Jim,

This "referee" should act only if people start calling each other names or
call
for a public crucifiction or such.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and response.

You can personally filter-out or just neglect content from those you
consider
less relevant in your in-box.

On a forum like this there will always be the eccentrics, those who are at
the
'edge of the spectrum'.

Sure those are different from the general bubble, sometimes "lack tact" and
because of their nature, are not capable of submitting a "good natured
reply" as
you correctly named it.

Diplomacy is (scientifically) counter effective in their view. And some
shoot at
everything. 

And like Einstein, they are arguably not your cute looking next neighbor.

But very much like K9YC, from time to time they also share empirical
knowledge,
something which is a lot more useful than just repeating theoretic content
from
other writers books.

Also there one can argue to some extent, based on personal other results/
experiences on the topic and still be free to continue thinking otherwise.

The eccentrics (sometimes called Gurus) in our hobby offer plenty of
knowledge
on their websites too. We use that to read, try and learn by doing. Maybe to
find the content offers the same result at our QTH, maybe not. 

I cannot imagine we would want to avoid the K9YC's of this world. 

I hope they continue their act.

I also often skip their, and other peoples' content if I think it is not
relevant to me.


73
Mark, PA5MW



> Op 18 april 2016 om 20:35 schreef James Rodenkirch
:
> 
> I don't know who the "referee" is for this august reflector.BUT, read
> below, puleez,
> 
> by doing the following:
> 
> - find every spot where I annotated K9YC's acerbic and uncalled for
replies to
> SP6EQZ's initial
>  post by inserting "K9YC replied"
> 
> - label K9YC as an "ugly American" and, PULEZ, put him, FINALLY, on
notice
> to "clean up his act"
>  or disappear into the internet ether..
> 
> - send a personal e-mail to SP6EQZ and apologize for this exhibited
boorish
> behavior...PULZ!!!
> 
> How embarrassing!!! Sheesh
> 
> Aside note: I got pissed off enuff at K9YC for his acerbic replies to
several
> past posts of mine.and
> 
> enjoyed reading several private e-mails from other subscribers regarding
his
> lack of tact and ability
> 
> to submit a "good natured reply," vice the caustic, unfriendly notes he's
> noted for. BUT, this latest edition
> 
> makes his forays into my "backyard" pale by comparison!!
> 
> Run this dood out of town if it keeps up!!
> 
> 72 de Jim R. K9JWV
> 
> On Mon,4/18/2016 2:56 AM, Andrzej_SP6AEG wrote:
> 
> Courtesy of my friend Wlodzimierz Herej SP6EQZ paid a donation of $ 10 for
> VK0EK.
> 
> K9YC replied: Sounds like you're one of the last of the big spenders!
> 
> To this day I have not found confirmation of my QSO on LoTW?.
> I sent the payment on April 12, 2016
> Is the donation has been sent too late and the previous procedure does not
> work, can I do something wrong?.
> 
> K9YC replied: Did you not read the VK0EK website? Early LOTW confirmations
> would be sent to those who contributed BEFORE the expedition began. Like
you,
> I waited until I had worked them on the boat on their way to Heard to send
> them $300. That's much more than I usually contribute to DX trips, but
this
> was a VERY expensive one. I sent a check, and got a nice thank you note
from
> KK6EK's XYL. She said I'll get my LOTW when Bob returns home.
> 
> I guess I will have to again make fee to confirm my QSO using the form:
> https://shop.vk0ek.org/
> 
>
[https://shop.vk0ek.org/assets/HD_Mug_logo_GIF_512.gif]
> 
> VK0EK Shop - VK0EK OQRS page
> shop.vk0ek.org
> Bringing this expedition to reality has been a huge effort, extending over
3
> years. Besides the 14 men who travelled to Heard Island to operate the
radios,
> carry out ...
> 
> K9YC replied: It would be good for you to again make a contribution,
> increasing the size of your support. This was a VERY costly expedition.
> 
> Thank you very much for having responded to my call, and especially to 160
m
> what gave me 263 entities to 160 DXCC.
> 
> The way to say thank you is to send more money. :)
> 
> K9YC replied: European hams got 52.5% of VK0EK QSOs, NA got 19.4%. EU got
> 2,372 Topband Q's, NA got 293 (I got one of them). Many NA hams who DO
> contribute to these trips are getting more than a bit tired of hearing EU
> stations complaining about DXpeditions not working them but not sending
money
> to support the costs. Most NA hams are retired, so 

Re: Topband: VK0EK confirmation

[Kenneth Grimm]

There really is no excuse for bad manners.  I know that to be so, because
my mother told me.  So did my teachers.  All of my university degrees do
not excuse me from that simple but essential requirement.  They also taught
me to keep my trap shut if I couldn't say something nice or at least
non-disparaging.  (I think I may have just slightly violated that last
one )

Andrzej, I'm glad you got your cards.  I sent my contribution after they
were tearing down the camp and have not seen anything yet on LOTW.  I'm in
no hurry and am sure that it will appear in time.

73,
-- 
Ken - K4XL
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Re: Topband: VK0EK confirmation

[Ed Sawyer]

Personally, I don't agree that the occasional wisdom obtained from Jim's
posts is worth being subjected to the unprofessional attitude and comments
that all of us are subjected to on the many forums that he appears.

 

Ed  N1UR

 

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Re: Topband: VK0EK confirmation

[Andrzej_SP6AEG]

Dear friendly Top Banders. Thank you very much for the explanation to me of
my doubts. 
I am of the opinion that anyone who asks, do not wander. 
My mistake was to request topband@contesting.com and not at the source.
 I think with me it will be forgiven I took yours time and place in this
list

Finally, last night I ordered QSL via OQRS and with great pleasure I saw
after one hour, among other things cfm VK0EK for 160 m band.
I am already old dinosaur but such moments give me great pleasure.
All's Well That Ends Well

Once again, thank you, friends, especially for the many very nice e mail
sent direct to my e-mail address.

Regards
Andrzej (Andy)
SP6AEG
=

-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Andrzej_SP6AEG
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 11:57 AM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: VK0EK confirmation

Courtesy of my friend  Wlodzimierz Herej SP6EQZ paid a donation of $ 10  for
VK0EK.
On the application was entered in my SP6AEG call sign and address in
accordance with QRZ.COM.
To this day I have not found confirmation of my QSO on LoTW?.
I sent the payment on April 12, 2016
Is the donation has been sent too late and the previous procedure does not
work, can I do something wrong?.
I guess I will have to again make fee to confirm my QSO using the form:
https://shop.vk0ek.org/
Thank you very much for having responded to my call, and especially to 160 m
what  gave me 263 entities to 160 DXCC.

 

Andy

SP6AEG

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Re: Topband: VK0EK confirmation

[Mark van Wijk]

Jim,

This "referee" should act only if people start calling each other names or call
for a public crucifiction or such.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and response.

You can personally filter-out or just neglect content from those you consider
less relevant in your in-box.

On a forum like this there will always be the eccentrics, those who are at the
'edge of the spectrum'.

Sure those are different from the general bubble, sometimes "lack tact" and
because of their nature, are not capable of submitting a "good natured reply" as
you correctly named it.

Diplomacy is (scientifically) counter effective in their view. And some shoot at
everything. 

And like Einstein, they are arguably not your cute looking next neighbor.

But very much like K9YC, from time to time they also share empirical  knowledge,
something which is a lot more useful than just repeating theoretic content from
other writers books.

Also there one can argue to some extent, based on personal other results/
experiences on the topic and still be free to continue thinking otherwise.

The eccentrics (sometimes called Gurus) in our hobby offer plenty of knowledge
on their websites too. We use that to read, try and learn by doing. Maybe to
find the content offers the same result at our QTH, maybe not. 

I cannot imagine we would want to avoid the K9YC's of this world. 

I hope they continue their act.

I also often skip their, and other peoples' content if I think it is not
relevant to me.


73
Mark, PA5MW



> Op 18 april 2016 om 20:35 schreef James Rodenkirch :
> 
> I don't know who the "referee" is for this august reflector.BUT, read
> below, puleez,
> 
> by doing the following:
> 
> - find every spot where I annotated K9YC's acerbic and uncalled for replies to
> SP6EQZ's initial
>  post by inserting "K9YC replied"
> 
> - label K9YC as an "ugly American" and, PULEZ, put him, FINALLY, on notice
> to "clean up his act"
>  or disappear into the internet ether..
> 
> - send a personal e-mail to SP6EQZ and apologize for this exhibited boorish
> behavior...PULZ!!!
> 
> How embarrassing!!! Sheesh
> 
> Aside note: I got pissed off enuff at K9YC for his acerbic replies to several
> past posts of mine.and
> 
> enjoyed reading several private e-mails from other subscribers regarding his
> lack of tact and ability
> 
> to submit a "good natured reply," vice the caustic, unfriendly notes he's
> noted for. BUT, this latest edition
> 
> makes his forays into my "backyard" pale by comparison!!
> 
> Run this dood out of town if it keeps up!!
> 
> 72 de Jim R. K9JWV
> 
> On Mon,4/18/2016 2:56 AM, Andrzej_SP6AEG wrote:
> 
> Courtesy of my friend Wlodzimierz Herej SP6EQZ paid a donation of $ 10 for
> VK0EK.
> 
> K9YC replied: Sounds like you're one of the last of the big spenders!
> 
> To this day I have not found confirmation of my QSO on LoTW?.
> I sent the payment on April 12, 2016
> Is the donation has been sent too late and the previous procedure does not
> work, can I do something wrong?.
> 
> K9YC replied: Did you not read the VK0EK website? Early LOTW confirmations
> would be sent to those who contributed BEFORE the expedition began. Like you,
> I waited until I had worked them on the boat on their way to Heard to send
> them $300. That's much more than I usually contribute to DX trips, but this
> was a VERY expensive one. I sent a check, and got a nice thank you note from
> KK6EK's XYL. She said I'll get my LOTW when Bob returns home.
> 
> I guess I will have to again make fee to confirm my QSO using the form:
> https://shop.vk0ek.org/
> 
> [https://shop.vk0ek.org/assets/HD_Mug_logo_GIF_512.gif]
> 
> VK0EK Shop - VK0EK OQRS page
> shop.vk0ek.org
> Bringing this expedition to reality has been a huge effort, extending over 3
> years. Besides the 14 men who travelled to Heard Island to operate the radios,
> carry out ...
> 
> K9YC replied: It would be good for you to again make a contribution,
> increasing the size of your support. This was a VERY costly expedition.
> 
> Thank you very much for having responded to my call, and especially to 160 m
> what gave me 263 entities to 160 DXCC.
> 
> The way to say thank you is to send more money. :)
> 
> K9YC replied: European hams got 52.5% of VK0EK QSOs, NA got 19.4%. EU got
> 2,372 Topband Q's, NA got 293 (I got one of them). Many NA hams who DO
> contribute to these trips are getting more than a bit tired of hearing EU
> stations complaining about DXpeditions not working them but not sending money
> to support the costs. Most NA hams are retired, so when we send money it is
> from our savings or our pensions. Here's a partial list of the guys who paid
> for your QSO.
> 
> https://vk0ek.org/sponsors-3/
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
> 
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Re: Topband: VK0EK confirmation

[Joe]

I sent via OQRS after the dxpedition for direct cards. It took 3 days for
mine to show in LoTW.

73,
Joe WL7E

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Tom Haavisto  wrote:

> Hi Andy
>
> If it helps - I did not make an advance donation.  Once I saw how well
> their web site worked, I made OQRS request, and received an LOTW
> confirmation shortly after.  As I made additional QSO's, LOTW confirmations
> followed quickly.  If you did not get your LOTW confirmation within a day
> (at the latest), I expect something went wrong.
>
> I would also add - making an extra donation is not in everyone's budget,
> and that is fine.  For those that can afford it - great.  For those that
> cannot - it should not be a deal breaker.
>
> If you did not receive your confirmation, I have two suggestions:
> Made a second $5.00 donation, and try again.  Since the first time did not
> work, the second may also fail, assuming there is a problem with their
> log.  Keep this possibility in mind if you try this.
>
> OR - send an email to the team, and ask them to look into the issue.  I am
> sure they have a bunch of emails to work through, so be patient.  They are
> a first-class operation, and I am sure once the issue is resolved, your
> much anticipated confirmation will follow :-)
>
>
>
> Tom - VE3CX
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 5:56 AM, Andrzej_SP6AEG 
> wrote:
>
> > Courtesy of my friend  Wlodzimierz Herej SP6EQZ paid a donation of $ 10
> > for
> > VK0EK.
> > On the application was entered in my SP6AEG call sign and address in
> > accordance with QRZ.COM.
> > To this day I have not found confirmation of my QSO on LoTW?.
> > I sent the payment on April 12, 2016
> > Is the donation has been sent too late and the previous procedure does
> not
> > work, can I do something wrong?.
> > I guess I will have to again make fee to confirm my QSO using the form:
> > https://shop.vk0ek.org/
> > Thank you very much for having responded to my call, and especially to
> 160
> > m
> > what  gave me 263 entities to 160 DXCC.
> >
> >
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > SP6AEG
> >
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> >
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Re: Topband: VK0EK confirmation

[Tom Haavisto]

Hi Andy

If it helps - I did not make an advance donation.  Once I saw how well
their web site worked, I made OQRS request, and received an LOTW
confirmation shortly after.  As I made additional QSO's, LOTW confirmations
followed quickly.  If you did not get your LOTW confirmation within a day
(at the latest), I expect something went wrong.

I would also add - making an extra donation is not in everyone's budget,
and that is fine.  For those that can afford it - great.  For those that
cannot - it should not be a deal breaker.

If you did not receive your confirmation, I have two suggestions:
Made a second $5.00 donation, and try again.  Since the first time did not
work, the second may also fail, assuming there is a problem with their
log.  Keep this possibility in mind if you try this.

OR - send an email to the team, and ask them to look into the issue.  I am
sure they have a bunch of emails to work through, so be patient.  They are
a first-class operation, and I am sure once the issue is resolved, your
much anticipated confirmation will follow :-)



Tom - VE3CX






On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 5:56 AM, Andrzej_SP6AEG 
wrote:

> Courtesy of my friend  Wlodzimierz Herej SP6EQZ paid a donation of $ 10
> for
> VK0EK.
> On the application was entered in my SP6AEG call sign and address in
> accordance with QRZ.COM.
> To this day I have not found confirmation of my QSO on LoTW?.
> I sent the payment on April 12, 2016
> Is the donation has been sent too late and the previous procedure does not
> work, can I do something wrong?.
> I guess I will have to again make fee to confirm my QSO using the form:
> https://shop.vk0ek.org/
> Thank you very much for having responded to my call, and especially to 160
> m
> what  gave me 263 entities to 160 DXCC.
>
>
>
> Andy
>
> SP6AEG
>
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Re: Topband: VK0EK confirmation

[James Rodenkirch]

I don't know who the "referee" is for this august reflector.BUT, read 
below, puleez,

by doing the following:


- find every spot where I annotated K9YC's acerbic and uncalled for replies to 
SP6EQZ's initial
  post by inserting "K9YC replied"


- label K9YC as an "ugly American" and, PULEZ, put him, FINALLY, on notice 
to "clean up his act"
  or disappear into the internet ether..


- send a personal e-mail to SP6EQZ and apologize for this exhibited boorish 
behavior...PULZ!!!


How embarrassing!!!  Sheesh


Aside note: I got pissed off enuff at K9YC for his acerbic replies to several 
past posts of mine.and

enjoyed reading several private e-mails from other subscribers regarding his 
lack of tact and ability

to submit a "good natured reply," vice the caustic, unfriendly notes he's noted 
for. BUT, this latest edition

makes his forays into my "backyard" pale by comparison!!


Run this dood out of town if it keeps up!!


72 de Jim R. K9JWV



On Mon,4/18/2016 2:56 AM, Andrzej_SP6AEG wrote:


Courtesy of my friend  Wlodzimierz Herej SP6EQZ paid a donation of $ 10  for
VK0EK.



K9YC replied: Sounds like you're one of the last of the big spenders!



To this day I have not found confirmation of my QSO on LoTW?.
I sent the payment on April 12, 2016
Is the donation has been sent too late and the previous procedure does not
work, can I do something wrong?.



K9YC replied: Did you not read the VK0EK website? Early LOTW confirmations 
would be sent to those who contributed BEFORE the expedition began. Like you, I 
waited until I had worked them on the boat on their way to Heard to send them 
$300. That's much more than I usually contribute to DX trips, but this was a 
VERY expensive one. I sent a check, and got a nice thank you note from KK6EK's 
XYL. She said I'll get my LOTW when Bob returns home.


I guess I will have to again make fee to confirm my QSO using the form:
https://shop.vk0ek.org/


[https://shop.vk0ek.org/assets/HD_Mug_logo_GIF_512.gif]

VK0EK Shop - VK0EK OQRS page
shop.vk0ek.org
Bringing this expedition to reality has been a huge effort, extending over 3 
years. Besides the 14 men who travelled to Heard Island to operate the radios, 
carry out ...




K9YC replied: It would be good for you to again make a contribution, increasing 
the size of your support. This was a VERY costly expedition.


Thank you very much for having responded to my call, and especially to 160 m
what  gave me 263 entities to 160 DXCC.


The way to say thank you is to send more money. :)



K9YC replied: European hams got 52.5% of VK0EK QSOs, NA got 19.4%. EU got 2,372 
Topband Q's, NA got 293 (I got one of them). Many NA hams who DO contribute to 
these trips are getting more than a bit tired of hearing EU stations 
complaining about DXpeditions not working them but not sending money to support 
the costs. Most NA hams are retired, so when we send money it is from our 
savings or our pensions. Here's a partial list of the guys who paid for your 
QSO.

https://vk0ek.org/sponsors-3/

73, Jim K9YC


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Re: Topband: VK0EK confirmation

[JC]

My two cents

Few weeks ago  I requested VK0EK QSL card using  Online QSL Request System
(OQRS), with a modest donation.

I checked LOTW and my confirmation was not there, I forgot to upload my log
update. buhhh !!

After I upload my log update I got the confirmation same day. Really nice
and fantastic fast!

The delay could be just  a QSL process issue.

Regards
JC
N4IS

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Re: Topband: VK0EK confirmation

[Raoul Coetzee via Topband]

Ouch...I made a contribution while they were in Cape Town and we had a good 
evening with the crew and the team in the Cape  Royal Yacht club and after I 
worked them, I contributed another $10.00Now before you blast me as a cheap 
skate Jim, with our our exchange rate you may multiply that with about 14 to 
feel the same effect on your pocket. (14x20)And I had Heard confirmed but NOT 
on 80 and 160 m.Now add the ARRL fees times 14, even with Lotw, and then  DXing 
do become expensive for people with poor economies.
My contacts were on Lotw within hours after my contribution.GL Andy
Kind regards,Raoul


  From: Jim Brown <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com>
 To: topband@contesting.com 
 Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 6:05 PM
 Subject: Re: Topband: VK0EK confirmation
   
On Mon,4/18/2016 2:56 AM, Andrzej_SP6AEG wrote:
> Courtesy of my friend  Wlodzimierz Herej SP6EQZ paid a donation of $ 10  for
> VK0EK.

Sounds like you're one of the last of the big spenders!

> To this day I have not found confirmation of my QSO on LoTW?.
> I sent the payment on April 12, 2016
> Is the donation has been sent too late and the previous procedure does not
> work, can I do something wrong?.

Did you not read the VK0EK website?  Early LOTW confirmations would be 
sent to those who contributed BEFORE the expedition began. Like you, I 
waited until I had worked them on the boat on their way to Heard to send 
them $300. That's much more than I usually contribute to DX trips, but 
this was a VERY expensive one. I sent a check, and got a nice thank you 
note from KK6EK's XYL. She said I'll get my LOTW when Bob returns home.

> I guess I will have to again make fee to confirm my QSO using the form:
> https://shop.vk0ek.org

It would be good for you to again make a contribution, increasing the 
size of your support. This was a VERY costly expedition.

> Thank you very much for having responded to my call, and especially to 160 m
> what  gave me 263 entities to 160 DXCC.

The way to say thank you is to send more money. :)

European hams got 52.5% of VK0EK QSOs, NA got 19.4%.  EU got 2,372 
Topband Q's, NA got 293 (I got one of them).  Many NA hams who DO 
contribute to these trips are getting more than a bit tired of hearing 
EU stations complaining about DXpeditions not working them but not 
sending money to support the costs.  Most NA hams are retired, so when 
we send money it is from our savings or our pensions.  Here's a partial 
list of the guys who paid for your QSO.

https://vk0ek.org/sponsors-3/

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: Topband: VK0EK confirmation

[Steve Baughn]

Very well said Mike-agree 100%

Steve, WD8NPL

-Original Message- 
From: mstang...@comcast.net

Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 1:26 PM
To: j...@audiosystemsgroup.com
Cc: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: VK0EK confirmation

Jim,

This outburst is unnecessary and goes against the spirit of Amateur radio 
and the Topband.


A operator's participation should not depend on any donation from any 
"sponsors".


This is also unprofessional. One should never embarrass a person when 
discussing or debating an issue. I was taught this in my engineering 
education it has been reinforced many times in my career.


I think you owe SP6AEG and SP6EQZ an apology.

Mike N2MS


- Original Message -
From: Jim Brown <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com>
To: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 16:05:35 - (UTC)
Subject: Re: Topband: VK0EK confirmation

On Mon,4/18/2016 2:56 AM, Andrzej_SP6AEG wrote:
Courtesy of my friend  Wlodzimierz Herej SP6EQZ paid a donation of $ 10 
for

VK0EK.


Sounds like you're one of the last of the big spenders!


To this day I have not found confirmation of my QSO on LoTW?.
I sent the payment on April 12, 2016
Is the donation has been sent too late and the previous procedure does not
work, can I do something wrong?.


Did you not read the VK0EK website?  Early LOTW confirmations would be
sent to those who contributed BEFORE the expedition began. Like you, I
waited until I had worked them on the boat on their way to Heard to send
them $300. That's much more than I usually contribute to DX trips, but
this was a VERY expensive one. I sent a check, and got a nice thank you
note from KK6EK's XYL. She said I'll get my LOTW when Bob returns home.


I guess I will have to again make fee to confirm my QSO using the form:
https://shop.vk0ek.org/


It would be good for you to again make a contribution, increasing the
size of your support. This was a VERY costly expedition.

Thank you very much for having responded to my call, and especially to 160 
m

what  gave me 263 entities to 160 DXCC.


The way to say thank you is to send more money. :)

European hams got 52.5% of VK0EK QSOs, NA got 19.4%.  EU got 2,372
Topband Q's, NA got 293 (I got one of them).  Many NA hams who DO
contribute to these trips are getting more than a bit tired of hearing
EU stations complaining about DXpeditions not working them but not
sending money to support the costs.  Most NA hams are retired, so when
we send money it is from our savings or our pensions.  Here's a partial
list of the guys who paid for your QSO.

https://vk0ek.org/sponsors-3/

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: Topband: VK0EK confirmation

[mstangelo]

Jim,

This outburst is unnecessary and goes against the spirit of Amateur radio and 
the Topband.

A operator's participation should not depend on any donation from any 
"sponsors".

This is also unprofessional. One should never embarrass a person when 
discussing or debating an issue. I was taught this in my engineering education 
it has been reinforced many times in my career.

I think you owe SP6AEG and SP6EQZ an apology.

Mike N2MS


- Original Message -
From: Jim Brown <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com>
To: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 16:05:35 - (UTC)
Subject: Re: Topband: VK0EK confirmation

On Mon,4/18/2016 2:56 AM, Andrzej_SP6AEG wrote:
> Courtesy of my friend  Wlodzimierz Herej SP6EQZ paid a donation of $ 10  for
> VK0EK.

Sounds like you're one of the last of the big spenders!

> To this day I have not found confirmation of my QSO on LoTW?.
> I sent the payment on April 12, 2016
> Is the donation has been sent too late and the previous procedure does not
> work, can I do something wrong?.

Did you not read the VK0EK website?  Early LOTW confirmations would be 
sent to those who contributed BEFORE the expedition began. Like you, I 
waited until I had worked them on the boat on their way to Heard to send 
them $300. That's much more than I usually contribute to DX trips, but 
this was a VERY expensive one. I sent a check, and got a nice thank you 
note from KK6EK's XYL. She said I'll get my LOTW when Bob returns home.

> I guess I will have to again make fee to confirm my QSO using the form:
> https://shop.vk0ek.org/

It would be good for you to again make a contribution, increasing the 
size of your support. This was a VERY costly expedition.

> Thank you very much for having responded to my call, and especially to 160 m
> what  gave me 263 entities to 160 DXCC.

The way to say thank you is to send more money. :)

European hams got 52.5% of VK0EK QSOs, NA got 19.4%.  EU got 2,372 
Topband Q's, NA got 293 (I got one of them).  Many NA hams who DO 
contribute to these trips are getting more than a bit tired of hearing 
EU stations complaining about DXpeditions not working them but not 
sending money to support the costs.  Most NA hams are retired, so when 
we send money it is from our savings or our pensions.  Here's a partial 
list of the guys who paid for your QSO.

https://vk0ek.org/sponsors-3/

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: Topband: VK0EK confirmation

[Kip Edwards]

Jim,

I think your diatribe in an apparent attempt to embarrass SP6AEG is
out of place in a public forum.  You have no idea of the his personal
circumstances, unless you chose to not disclose that you do.  The support of
DXpeditions such as VK0EK will continue to be a problem for all of us but
messages such as yours will not do a thing to help solve that problem.

I know you fairly well and I'm willing to write it off to your
having a bad day, perhaps tired after Visalia.  But I think you owe SP6AEG a
public apology.

73 Kip W6SZN

-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2016 9:06 AM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: VK0EK confirmation

On Mon,4/18/2016 2:56 AM, Andrzej_SP6AEG wrote:
> Courtesy of my friend  Wlodzimierz Herej SP6EQZ paid a donation of $ 
> 10  for VK0EK.

Sounds like you're one of the last of the big spenders!

> To this day I have not found confirmation of my QSO on LoTW?.
> I sent the payment on April 12, 2016
> Is the donation has been sent too late and the previous procedure does 
> not work, can I do something wrong?.

Did you not read the VK0EK website?  Early LOTW confirmations would be sent
to those who contributed BEFORE the expedition began. Like you, I waited
until I had worked them on the boat on their way to Heard to send them $300.
That's much more than I usually contribute to DX trips, but this was a VERY
expensive one. I sent a check, and got a nice thank you note from KK6EK's
XYL. She said I'll get my LOTW when Bob returns home.

> I guess I will have to again make fee to confirm my QSO using the form:
> https://shop.vk0ek.org/

It would be good for you to again make a contribution, increasing the size
of your support. This was a VERY costly expedition.

> Thank you very much for having responded to my call, and especially to 
> 160 m what  gave me 263 entities to 160 DXCC.

The way to say thank you is to send more money. :)

European hams got 52.5% of VK0EK QSOs, NA got 19.4%.  EU got 2,372 Topband
Q's, NA got 293 (I got one of them).  Many NA hams who DO contribute to
these trips are getting more than a bit tired of hearing EU stations
complaining about DXpeditions not working them but not sending money to
support the costs.  Most NA hams are retired, so when we send money it is
from our savings or our pensions.  Here's a partial list of the guys who
paid for your QSO.

https://vk0ek.org/sponsors-3/

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: Topband: VK0EK confirmation

[Jim Brown]

On Mon,4/18/2016 2:56 AM, Andrzej_SP6AEG wrote:

Courtesy of my friend  Wlodzimierz Herej SP6EQZ paid a donation of $ 10  for
VK0EK.


Sounds like you're one of the last of the big spenders!


To this day I have not found confirmation of my QSO on LoTW?.
I sent the payment on April 12, 2016
Is the donation has been sent too late and the previous procedure does not
work, can I do something wrong?.


Did you not read the VK0EK website?  Early LOTW confirmations would be 
sent to those who contributed BEFORE the expedition began. Like you, I 
waited until I had worked them on the boat on their way to Heard to send 
them $300. That's much more than I usually contribute to DX trips, but 
this was a VERY expensive one. I sent a check, and got a nice thank you 
note from KK6EK's XYL. She said I'll get my LOTW when Bob returns home.



I guess I will have to again make fee to confirm my QSO using the form:
https://shop.vk0ek.org/


It would be good for you to again make a contribution, increasing the 
size of your support. This was a VERY costly expedition.



Thank you very much for having responded to my call, and especially to 160 m
what  gave me 263 entities to 160 DXCC.


The way to say thank you is to send more money. :)

European hams got 52.5% of VK0EK QSOs, NA got 19.4%.  EU got 2,372 
Topband Q's, NA got 293 (I got one of them).  Many NA hams who DO 
contribute to these trips are getting more than a bit tired of hearing 
EU stations complaining about DXpeditions not working them but not 
sending money to support the costs.  Most NA hams are retired, so when 
we send money it is from our savings or our pensions.  Here's a partial 
list of the guys who paid for your QSO.


https://vk0ek.org/sponsors-3/

73, Jim K9YC
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Topband: VK0EK confirmation

[Andrzej_SP6AEG]

Courtesy of my friend  Wlodzimierz Herej SP6EQZ paid a donation of $ 10  for
VK0EK.
On the application was entered in my SP6AEG call sign and address in
accordance with QRZ.COM.
To this day I have not found confirmation of my QSO on LoTW?.
I sent the payment on April 12, 2016
Is the donation has been sent too late and the previous procedure does not
work, can I do something wrong?.
I guess I will have to again make fee to confirm my QSO using the form:
https://shop.vk0ek.org/
Thank you very much for having responded to my call, and especially to 160 m
what  gave me 263 entities to 160 DXCC.

 

Andy

SP6AEG

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