Re: Topband: [Bulk] Best wire antenna for roof top location

2015-08-08 Thread Nuradi
: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:23 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: [Bulk] Best wire antenna for roof top location And remember -- the roof of this building is 110m, so a horizontal antenna is high enough to have pretty good low angle radiation! See http://k9yc.com

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Best wire antenna for roof top location

2015-08-08 Thread Art Snapper
To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: [Bulk] Best wire antenna for roof top location And remember -- the roof of this building is 110m, so a horizontal antenna is high enough to have pretty good low angle radiation! See http://k9yc.com/VertOrHorizontal-Slides.pdf and double the heights

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Best wire antenna for roof top location

2015-08-08 Thread Tom W8JI
And remember -- the roof of this building is 110m, so a horizontal antenna is high enough to have pretty good low angle radiation! See Large buildings are not towers or poles. Buildings have a significant amount of large conductive metallic things and noise generating junk inside. A

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Best wire antenna for roof top location

2015-08-08 Thread K1FZ-Bruce
  Some years ago, on 80 meters, an LZ station had a horizontal between two tall buildings and had a very strong signal.   73 Bruce-k1fz www.qsl.net/k1fz/beverage_antenna.html     On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 10:58:22 -0400, Tom W8JI wrote: And remember -- the roof of this building is 110m, so

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Best wire antenna for roof top location

2015-08-08 Thread Merv Schweigert
: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:23 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: [Bulk] Best wire antenna for roof top location And remember -- the roof of this building is 110m, so a horizontal antenna is high enough to have pretty good low angle radiation! See http://k9yc.com/VertOrHorizontal

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Best wire antenna for roof top location

2015-08-08 Thread Tom W8JI
Some years ago, on 80 meters, an LZ station had a horizontal between two tall buildings and had a very strong signal. 73 Bruce-k1fz Between buildings is entirely different than on a building roof. Full context is important. As I said: A simple vertical antenna has elevation pattern mostly

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Best wire antenna for roof top location

2015-08-08 Thread JC
Even with a 400 ft high building, a horizontal antenna a fraction of wave over the roof can be very disappointing. Tom is 100% right, one of the best rood top signal on top band is from 9M2AX. Ross tested several antennas and the only one that worked well was the inverted L. He has a tall

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Best wire antenna for roof top location

2015-08-07 Thread Grant Saviers
Have you surveyed the site for HF RFI? One mountain top property I was considering had awesome 360d unlimited visibility but had so much power supply hash, PIM, intermod, etc. from comm installations that any amateur operation would be near impossible. My spectrum analyzer showed huge

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Best wire antenna for roof top location

2015-08-07 Thread Mike Waters
For 160 DX, a vertically-polarized antenna (fed against a proper ground) is best. http://www.w0btu.com/160_meters.html 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On 8/7/2015 16:52 PM, Nuradi wrote: I plan to install wire antenna on a roof top of a 33rd story building (about 110 metres above the ground) for

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Best wire antenna for roof top location

2015-08-07 Thread Greg - ZL3IX
Careful Mike! Jakarta is close to the equator, and power coupling is likely to be better from a horizontally polarised antenna, especially in an E-W direction. Ref The Big Gun's Guide to Low-Band Propagation by Bob Brown, NM7M (SK) On 2015-08-08 12:40 p.m., Mike Waters wrote: For 160 DX, a

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Best wire antenna for roof top location

2015-08-07 Thread Mike Waters
Really?! I think I just learned something important. Thanks, Greg! 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Greg - ZL3IX zl...@inet.net.nz wrote: Careful Mike! Jakarta is close to the equator, and power coupling is likely to be better from a horizontally polarised antenna,

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Best wire antenna for roof top location

2015-08-07 Thread Garry Shapiro
And Bob Brown used a monograph by J.A. Ratcliffe--The Magneto-Ionic Theory and its Application to the Ionosphere which says the same thing. It has to do with the angle between the E vector and the Earth's Geomagnetic Field, which is horizontal at the geomagnetic equator. Bob borrowed my copy

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Best wire antenna for roof top location

2015-08-07 Thread Jim Brown
And remember -- the roof of this building is 110m, so a horizontal antenna is high enough to have pretty good low angle radiation! See http://k9yc.com/VertOrHorizontal-Slides.pdf and double the heights for the graphs of 80M performance. When you're thinking height, consider the building a