and Ideally nearby a
small airport which will be the method of traveling via a single
engine aircraft. The deal went into contract today and we hope to
start breaking ground sometime in June/July.
Thanks,
Ray
W2RE.com
To:topband@contesting.com
Subject:Topband: Salt
and we hope to start breaking
ground sometime in June/July.
Thanks,
Ray
W2RE.com
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject:Topband: Salt-Water Qth!
From: HVT w...@hudsonvalleytowers.com
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 07:47:23 -0400
List-post: topband@contesting.commailto:topband
Congrats!
On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Ray Higgins (W2RE)
w...@hudsonvalleytowers.com wrote:
Update:
Thanks to all the input and suggestions regarding my Salt-Water QTH post
on April 1. Your input was very valuable in making the final decision. We
had several options to choose from,
W3RE :
Apparently you missed the references I cited for BBC Engineering
reports.Apparently everyone else did also, as they've not been mentioned since.
And as for only hams being aware of seaside gain, the entire MW DX community
has taken that as a matter of course for a hundred years.
It seems
golf course
N2TK, Tony
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From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
donov...@starpower.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 1:04 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Salt-Water Qth!
Hi Paul,
Its the perfect location
to the examples of good and bad' interoperability I share with my
students, Guy!!!
72, Jim Rodenkirch K9JWV
From: k2av@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2015 15:59:39 -0400
To: donov...@starpower.net
CC: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: Salt-Water Qth!
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:17 PM
And it is very close to a nice golf course
N2TK, Tony
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From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
donov...@starpower.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 1:04 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Salt-Water Qth!
Hi Paul,
Its
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:17 PM, donov...@starpower.net wrote:
Its not practical to place a vertical closer than 1/4
wavelength of an ocean beachfront except in a temporary installation
such as a DXpedition.
Also w...@hudsonvalleytowers.com wrote:
... Is there any scientific data in print to
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Kenneth Silverman kenny.k...@gmail.com wrote:
One time in Jamaica I ran a test between two 10m verticals: one right on
the sea wall, and another 100' back and spaced about 200' apart (enough
that they shouldn't have much interaction at 10m). The vertical on
not confirm that enhancement was truly
frequency dependent. But based on these results, more testing is
warranted.
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Subject:Re: Topband: Salt-Water Qth!
From: Ed Sawyer sawye...@earthlink.net
Reply-to: sawye...@earthlink.net
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Salt-Water Qth!
I did not recall seeing tests for verticals a wavelength or more way from
the sea so I checked the team vertical website and found the following:
John KK9A
While field testing the verticals this past summer, we decided to test the
effect
Below, KK9A took a snip from my web page. When I wrote that, I missed one
very important point: simple trigonometry.
Let's imagine a perfectly straight coastline, and we place a 160 vertical
1/2 WL back(520' for this discussion) to try and get that potential of 3 dB
of gain. That gain is only
This is fascinating stuff. My 160 meter vertical is less than 2
wavelengths away from the Great Pond Bay and the salt water lagoon
inside which includes a floodplain of very brackish water. This is
proven my taste and by the fact that there are plenty of mangroves
there. Before I knew any
This is my first post to the Top-Band Reflector, so please excuse my ignorance
if this topic has been discussed in the past.
Is there any scientific data in print to prove the theory that ocean front
property is better than a location inland about a mile or so on a ridge
overlooking salt
The RHR team is also expanding to the State of Maine with multiple Ocean Front
Properties…. more details to follow.
More local QRM from clueless remote operators. Why don't you expand on the west
coast? Can anyone save us
from this plague?
Roger
On 4/1/2015 7:47 AM, HVT wrote:
This is my
Below is a link to the groundwave field of a 1 kW non-directional AM
broadcast station located about 1 mile from the Atlantic, in Florida.
The groundwave field shown is based on the FCC M3 conductivity map, and
their GW propagation charts for this frequency and power.
The space wave fields
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To: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 12:47:23 PM
Subject: Topband: Salt-Water Qth!
This is my first post to the Top-Band Reflector, so please excuse my ignorance
if this topic has been discussed in the past.
Is there any scientific data in print to prove
Fry
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 9:42 AM
To: HVT ; topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Salt-Water Qth!
Below is a link to the groundwave field of a 1 kW non-directional AM
broadcast station located about 1 mile from the Atlantic, in Florida.
The groundwave field shown is based
Now-a-days I'm just 90% an appliance
operator; lack of EE knowledge other than
reading all the handbooks back in the late
70's give me today that puts me at a
disadvantage when it comes to salient salt
water detail...
I'm on a salt marsh, running QRP I hear
599 from people I'm in a QSO
Please see the articles on sea gain (from technical reports of the
BBC Engineering Department), referenced by Chuck Hutton, which I
believe addresses this very phenomenon.
73,
Nick
At 17:13 01-04-15, you wrote:
As I recall, the vertical signal strength to low angle DX went up
Have a look at 1KW 1130 AM on Hilton Head Island, SC (WHHW-AM). At 12 noon
on any day, I can easily ride that signal down the Space
Coast of FL and about 10 miles inland. That's the entire coast of GA,
part of SC and half of FL.
That's pretty much as shown for them (link below). Nice signal
Some may wonder why I posted the groundwave coverage contour of an AM
broadcast station as being relevant to this thread. Hams are mostly
interested in the space wave radiated by an antenna system.
The NEC4.2 plots linked below show how the space wave and ground wave fields
launched by a
In 1997 I moved from a home about 1/2 mile from the ocean to oceanfront
property (I live on an inlet). I put up a hytower with a 160 wire
(inverted L). This was the same antenna I had inland that I was
struggling with. I just could NOT believe the difference. Instead of
fighting pileups
!1s0x0:0x0
Is there a Marshland Road on the Maine coast?
73
Frank
W3LPL
- Original Message -
From: Paul Christensen w...@arrl.net
To: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 5:32:23 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Salt-Water Qth!
Rich,
Have a look at 1KW 1130 AM on Hilton
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To: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 12:47:23 PM
Subject: Topband: Salt-Water Qth!
This is my first post to the Top-Band Reflector, so please excuse my
ignorance if this topic has been discussed in the past.
Is there any scientific data in print
interesting papers on Beverages, propagation, etc) are
available online at http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/search?Type=Publications
Chuck
From: w...@hudsonvalleytowers.com
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 07:47:23 -0400
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: Salt-Water Qth!
This is my first post to the Top
W3LPL
- Original Message -
From: Ray Higgins (W2RE) w...@hudsonvalleytowers.com
To: donov...@starpower.net
Cc: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 6:10:46 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Salt-Water Qth!
Hi Frank,
Thank you for your detailed answer. I appreciate your
To: donov...@starpower.net
Cc: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 6:10:46 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Salt-Water Qth!
Hi Frank,
Thank you for your detailed answer. I appreciate your valuable time in
responding.
After a few emails and a phone call it looks like we need
If you're back five wavelengths from salt water or salt marsh, almost the
entire Fresnel zone will be over land and the salt water will make
essentially
no improvement . That's okay if the land is salt marsh, but its very bad
if
it poor sandy soil... For a take off angle of ten degrees, the
oceanfront QTH has soil similar to a salt marsh.
73
Frank
W3LPL
- Original Message -
From: Don Greenbaum d...@aurumtel.com
To: Top Band Reflector topband@contesting.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 7:26:50 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Salt-Water Qth!
In 1997 I moved from a home about
My QTH is about 6 miles inland and 500 MSL from the head of the Penobscot
Bay. I get great propagation to the East and South. IMHO unless you need to
get radials within a critical distance of Salt Water I would opt for
something a few miles inland and on a ridge.
More importantly, have you done
The best write up and data I have seen on this subject was the team
vertical report on test done in Jamaica back about 10 or more years ago.
As I recall, the vertical signal strength to low angle DX went up
dramatically within 2 or less wavelengths of the edge of the high water
mark and maybe
Greenbaum d...@aurumtel.com
To: Top Band Reflector topband@contesting.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 7:26:50 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Salt-Water Qth!
In 1997 I moved from a home about 1/2 mile from the ocean to oceanfront
property (I live on an inlet). I put up a hytower with a 160 wire
(inverted
Tom,
Received a lot of valuable information from very smart people today that know a
lot more about this stuff than I. We can move forward with an intelligent game
plan to add a well equipped station for contesting on the coast of Maine. Hope
to break ground sooner than later, keep you posted
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