Re: Topband: 2 wire Beverage question

2013-10-04 Thread Mike Waters
Carl, It sounds like you are asking if transposing the two Beverage antenna wires at either end will make a difference. It will not. For a single, bi-directional Beverage or BOG, phasing does not matter. Are you going to phase two parallel BOGs together? 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Thu, Oct 3,

Re: Topband: 2 wire beverage question

2012-11-29 Thread Tom W8JI
This is very convenient for me. Can I just put up two of these side by side a foot apart and have a differential impedance of around 600 ohms? A two-wire Beverage operates in two modes, common mode (antenna) and differential (transmission line) mode. The common mode works correctly and

Re: Topband: 2 wire beverage question

2012-11-29 Thread Mike Waters
Rick, Why don't you just mount them on permanent posts (or trees) 10' high? That's what I and many others do. That ought to let you mow around them without taking them down. My support posts are 100' apart. Two 10' high 14 AWG wires spaced 12 would have an impedance of 710 ohms. The impedance of

Re: Topband: 2 wire beverage question

2012-11-29 Thread Mike Waters
Correction: In my last message, I calculated the impedance at 60 high. These are the impedances at 120 high: Two 10' high 14 AWG wires spaced 12 would have an impedance of 710 ohms. The impedance of both wires to ground would be 357 ohms. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com

Re: Topband: 2 wire beverage question

2012-11-29 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 11/29/2012 8:14 AM, Mike Waters wrote: Rick, Why don't you just mount them on permanent posts (or trees) 10' high? That's what I and many others do. That ought to let you mow around them without taking them down. My support posts are 100' apart. Thanks for the suggestions, but...

Re: Topband: 2 wire beverage question

2012-11-29 Thread ZR
To: Mike Waters mikew...@gmail.com Cc: topband topband@contesting.com Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 6:06 PM Subject: Re: Topband: 2 wire beverage question On 11/29/2012 8:14 AM, Mike Waters wrote: Rick, Why don't you just mount them on permanent posts (or trees) 10' high? That's what I

Topband: 2 wire beverage question

2012-11-28 Thread Martin
Topbanders, ON4UN states in his book that the wires for a 2 wire reversible beverage must be installed side by side, but also may be placed one above the other with satisfactory results. Did someone try this? How satisfactory is satisfactory? Would you rather bite the bullet and install a bev

Re: Topband: 2 wire beverage question

2012-11-28 Thread Tom W8JI
ON4UN states in his book that the wires for a 2 wire reversible beverage must be installed side by side, but also may be placed one above the other with satisfactory results. Did someone try this? How satisfactory is satisfactory? There is no difference at all. If the feed system is right,

Re: Topband: 2 wire beverage question

2012-11-28 Thread Tom W8JI
** Ive noticed no difference in any weather using field phone wire which happens to be in wide use by many very competitive contesters and lowband DXers. With 5 2 wire reversibles here and 750' of 1/2 feedline there is no need for a preamp. I'm talking about: 1.) impedance change 2.)

Re: Topband: 2 wire beverage question

2012-11-28 Thread Mike Waters
There is no practical difference, unless the wires happen to be widely spaced. (But Tom knew that. :-) Some people want to build their Beverages with the wires a foot apart. In that case, one wire over the other would not be ideal. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Tom

Re: Topband: 2 wire beverage question

2012-11-28 Thread Rick Karlquist
I think I might like to try some reversible beverages, but I would like them to be made so I can easily roll up the wire on a spool to do mowing, etc. I currently use 19 gauge aluminum electric fence wire on 3 foot high plastic electric fence insulators with a spike on the bottom. I space the

Re: Topband: 2 wire beverage question

2012-11-28 Thread ZR
- Original Message - From: Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 10:49 AM Subject: Re: Topband: 2 wire beverage question ON4UN states in his book that the wires for a 2 wire reversible beverage must be installed side by side, but also

Re: Topband: 2 wire beverage question

2012-11-28 Thread ZR
Subject: Re: Topband: 2 wire beverage question ** Ive noticed no difference in any weather using field phone wire which happens to be in wide use by many very competitive contesters and lowband DXers. With 5 2 wire reversibles here and 750' of 1/2 feedline there is no need for a preamp