Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station.

2012-11-07 Thread Terry Conboy
On 2012-11-03 8:25 PM, WO0W wrote: Perhaps you can take a portable transmitter and manual tuner to the site. At the point where you wish to place an L network, attach the manual tuner and transmitter and adjust the tuner for a good match. Take the tuner away from the source of interference,

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station

2012-11-05 Thread Tom W8JI
Thinking again about this, we have missed out a stage. After measuring the tuner output impedance, we need to make a temporary L network which, when terminated with 50 ohms, looks like the antenna. Now put the MFJ on this terminated network and measure it's R +/- jX values which will

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station

2012-11-05 Thread James Rodenkirch
So, I'm looking at setting a EWE antenna up - what happens if I simply make it a full loop? In other words, instead of driving 4' ground rods in at both ends I run a wire between the bottom of the terminating resistor and the matching balun.I'm going to try the shorter version first - 10

Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station

2012-11-05 Thread Εμμανουήλ Κερατζάκης
Hi topBanders!  I live in an area about 10km away from a BC station that transmits on frequency 981khz and whose power is 200Kw. Whenever I had tried to take measurements with a 160m antenna- with the latest equipment on the market- it was always impossible. The equipment was always becoming

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station

2012-11-05 Thread James Rodenkirch
; topband@contesting.com Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 08:19:12 -0500 Subject: Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station So, I'm looking at setting a EWE antenna up - what happens if I simply make it a full loop? In other words, instead of driving 4' ground rods in at both

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station

2012-11-05 Thread James Rodenkirch
but don't know if that gains me anything. Thoughts?? Jim R. K9JWV From: tsho...@wmata.com To: rodenkirch_...@msn.com Subject: RE: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 14:02:58 + Sounds to me, like something very close to a flag or rectangular

Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station

2012-11-04 Thread Tom Boucher
That's an interesting idea Red and worth a try. 73 Tom G3OLB WO0W wrote: Perhaps you can take a portable transmitter and manual tuner to the site. At the point where you wish to place an L network, attach the manual tuner and transmitter and adjust the tuner for a good match. Take the tuner

Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station

2012-11-04 Thread Tom Boucher
Thinking again about this, we have missed out a stage. After measuring the tuner output impedance, we need to make a temporary L network which, when terminated with 50 ohms, looks like the antenna. Now put the MFJ on this terminated network and measure it's R +/- jX values which will represent

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station.

2012-11-03 Thread Shoppa, Tim
[topband-boun...@contesting.com] on behalf of ZR [z...@jeremy.mv.com] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 8:11 PM To: Tom Boucher; 160 reflector; Chris G3SVL Subject: Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station. MFJ sells a filter for that but I dont know how well it works around

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station.

2012-11-03 Thread Richard Fry
Tim N3QE wrote: And I think clear channel stations do not cut back power at night... do clear channel stations actually still exist? There are about 116 AM broadcast stations in the U.S. using 50 kW transmitter power during the day. Some of them reduce power at night, however KFMB (760 kHz)

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station.

2012-11-03 Thread Tom
-Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 5:21 PM Subject: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station. We ended up with a good old-fashioned link coupled parallel tuned circuit

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station.

2012-11-03 Thread WO0W
...@telemetry.demon.co.uk To: 160 reflectortopband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station. A ham friend asked me to design a matching network for his 160 metre end fed quarter wave, so I asked him to provide an impedance reading using his MFJ-259B. I would then use

Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station.

2012-11-02 Thread Tom Boucher
A ham friend asked me to design a matching network for his 160 metre end fed quarter wave, so I asked him to provide an impedance reading using his MFJ-259B. I would then use the Berkley site (http://bwrc.eecs.berkeley.edu/Research/RF/projects/60GHz/matching/ImpMatch.html ) to provide the

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station.

2012-11-02 Thread Bob K6UJ
Tom, I will be interested to see what the solution(s) will be for the BC station interference. Wanted to thank for the reference to the impedance problem calculators. They are great! 73, Bob K6UJ On Nov 2, 2012, at 2:21 PM, Tom Boucher wrote: A ham friend asked me to design a

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station.

2012-11-02 Thread Lloyd Berg - N9LB
inline filter. 73 Lloyd - N9LB -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Tom Boucher Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 4:21 PM To: 160 reflector Subject: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station. A ham friend asked me to design

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station.

2012-11-02 Thread HAROLD SMITH JR
, November 02, 2012 4:21 PM To: 160 reflector Subject: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station. A ham friend asked me to design a matching network for his 160 metre end fed quarter wave, so I asked him to provide an impedance reading using his MFJ-259B. I would then use the Berkley

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station.

2012-11-02 Thread Greg - ZL3IX
Hi Tom, I used to have the same problem with my N2PK VNA, but then I put a switchable high pass filter in before the detector - after the reflection bridge that is. Provided that the VNA calibration is done with the filter switch in the same state as you intend to do the measurement, it has

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station.

2012-11-02 Thread Chris G3SVL
At 21:21 02/11/2012, Tom Boucher wrote: .. but how to use the antenna analyser in the presence of a high BC station field. Anyone any ideas? Hi Tom, I have 2.4KW of MW BC transmitter 300m from the base of my 160m antenna, so I know the problem. I've found an ICE BC filter to be pretty

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station.

2012-11-02 Thread Tree
: Friday, November 02, 2012 4:21 PM To: 160 reflector Subject: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station. A ham friend asked me to design a matching network for his 160 metre end fed quarter wave, so I asked him to provide an impedance reading using his MFJ-259B. I would

Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station.

2012-11-02 Thread ZR
G3SVL ch...@g3svl.com To: Tom Boucher t...@telemetry.demon.co.uk; 160 reflector topband@contesting.com Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 6:42 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Antenna analysers in close proximity to BC station. At 21:21 02/11/2012, Tom Boucher wrote: .. but how to use the antenna