Re: Topband: Antenna matching question

2014-03-20 Thread Tom W8JI
Hi Ray, All of this is traceable to real causes, and can be repeated in tests and measurements. This is something I learned through experience in 1970 building homebrew amps, and it repeats in everything from antenna tuners to amplifiers. I have burn up two output band switches on my

Re: Topband: Antenna matching question

2014-03-19 Thread Tom W8JI
I have an amplifier with a pair of 3-400Zs I built in the 60s. When I built it it was for 20, 15 and 10 meters. I used 3 of the 5 positions of a BC375 tuning unit switch. Everything work fine. I added 160, 80 and 40 meters. 160 was switched in and out with a RJ-1a vacuum relay. When I went to 20

Re: Topband: Antenna matching question

2014-03-19 Thread Carl
- Original Message - From: Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com To: Carl k...@jeremy.mv.com; Bill Wichers bi...@waveform.net; topband@contesting.com Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 9:55 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Antenna matching question If this is only 160-40 you probably won't have a series

Re: Topband: Antenna matching question

2014-03-19 Thread Tom W8JI
Wrong reflector, but I disagree completely with this: The HV build up was mitigated by the 10pf cap between the 40-20M positions which also reduces arcing on the SB-220 which is a shorting switch and a cap can be adapted to some 160-10M amps. The right hand one in that photo had the 80-40M

Re: Topband: Antenna matching question

2014-03-19 Thread Ray Benny
I have burn up two output band switches on my Ameritron AL1200 while on 160m. The amp uses a single 3CX1200A7 tube. My swr may have been high, but less that 3:1. Could the discussion above be the same for the AL1200 amp? I'm tired of replacing the band switch. I looked at replacing it with a

Topband: Antenna matching question

2014-03-18 Thread Bill Wichers
I'm working on a new matching network for my vertical. The vertical is a wire cage of approx. 82 feet high, and I use it on 160, 80 and 40 meters. The matching network is a low-pass L network. The new matching network is remotely tunable with 5 different capacitors selected by vacuum relays and

Re: Topband: Antenna matching question

2014-03-18 Thread Tom W8JI
Here's my question: the large inductor is much higher Q on 160 than the small inductor (large inductor is about 4.5 diameter, small one about 2 diameter). Would it be better to have the large inductor connected to the antenna and the small one to the feed (the two inductors would still be in

Re: Topband: Antenna matching question

2014-03-18 Thread Bill Wichers
The inductors are homebrew, but beefy. Basically I use 1/8 thick G10 phenolic with holes drilled in a cross vise (to maintain spacing), 8 gauge wire for the windings, and three aluminum brackets shaped like this \___/ arranged like a triangle on each end to hold the G10 in place. It ends up

Re: Topband: Antenna matching question

2014-03-18 Thread Tom W8JI
You mention keeping the highest impedance part clean electrically, which would make me think putting the small coil nearest the anteanna would be best. Whichever part of the inductor is shunted out is essentially just adding stray capacitance, that keeps the shorted turns part of the inductors

Re: Topband: Antenna matching question

2014-03-18 Thread Carl
- Original Message - From: Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com To: Bill Wichers bi...@waveform.net; topband@contesting.com Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 5:33 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Antenna matching question You mention keeping the highest impedance part clean electrically, which would make me

Re: Topband: Antenna matching question

2014-03-18 Thread Tom W8JI
If this is only 160-40 you probably won't have a series resonance issue with unused turns, but if you cover a wide range you will want to progressively short the large coil taps. This is why band switches that do not short (like the old National amp) and why large roller inductors mess up on

Re: Topband: Antenna matching question

2014-03-18 Thread HAROLD SMITH JR
Tom,  I have an amplifier with a pair of 3-400Zs I built in the 60s. When I built it it was for 20, 15 and 10 meters.  I used 3 of the 5 positions of a BC375 tuning unit switch. Everything work fine. I added 160, 80 and 40 meters.  160 was switched in and out with a RJ-1a vacuum relay. When I

Re: Topband: Antenna Matching Question

2011-09-02 Thread Clive GM3POI
Phil, Could you not remove the 60ft high guys for a test. Replace them with four copper radials that are then cut to resonate the whole array at 1830. Having found your new radial length introduce insulators into your old radials at the correct length. Leaving your complete system now

Topband: Antenna Matching Question

2011-09-01 Thread Phil Clements
Much has been written about matching 160 meter shortened vertical antennas, but very little about 160 meter antennas that are too long. There were two great articles in the old Communications Quarterly in 1998 about elevated ground planes, but I have lost them over the years. My current system was