Topband: Beverage antenna analyzer video

2019-07-26 Thread VE6WZ_Steve
The weather is good……. Here is another video showing how I use the antenna analyzer to take measurements of the Beverage antenna in the field: https://youtu.be/yiFW_u1CPrs Beverage theory is discussed, comparing the Beverage to a transmission line and calculating

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning

2018-07-08 Thread Ed Sawyer
I find that my 600 to 1000 ft terminated beverages are quite capable. Clearly, if someone doesn't the room, then other options need to be explored. But the front to back ratio and SNR of my 1000 ft beverage to Europe is nothing short of amazing when it comes to hearing. Even with 1.5kW on 80 and

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning

2018-07-07 Thread n4is
Guys Some concepts really belong to the last century, a beverage antenna is very inefficient for moderns days. Ground wave noise is very high everywhere and it is vertical polarized, any vertical polarized RX antenna will hear man made noise very well. The only really way to increase signal

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning

2018-07-07 Thread Mark
Good point Rick. But that zoomes-out the topic. What priorities does Ash' beverage need to cover, like: lowering local noise (groundwave) lowering incoming skywave noise; QRN and/or QRM the need to 'enable another layer of QSO contacts' etc. etc. Ash:  I am sure you have already read some

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning

2018-07-06 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 7/4/2018 8:09 AM, pa...@home.nl wrote: Groundwave BC signals arrive at 0 degrees; you want to adjust FB at incoming skywave (10< >50 degrees) signals instead What reference you should use depends on your QTH and the first wave of incoming (Europe?) QRM I would like to respectfully

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning

2018-07-06 Thread k8gg
t;> >>73 from Tunisia >> >>Ash 3V8SS/KF5EYY >>www.kf5eyy.info >> >> >> >>-- Original Message -- >>From: donov...@starpower.net >>To: topband@contesting.com >>Cc: "Ashraf Chaabane" >>Sent: 04/07/2018

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning

2018-07-06 Thread Nick Hall-Patch
this winter! 73 from Tunisia Ash 3V8SS/KF5EYY www.kf5eyy.info -- Original Message -- From: donov...@starpower.net To: topband@contesting.com Cc: "Ashraf Chaabane" Sent: 04/07/2018 19:00:33 Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning Hello Ash, Your results are normal for

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning

2018-07-06 Thread Ashraf Chaabane
youngsters). I hope we will be ready with strong 100W signals this winter! 73 from Tunisia Ash 3V8SS/KF5EYY www.kf5eyy.info -- Original Message -- From: donov...@starpower.net To: topband@contesting.com Cc: "Ashraf Chaabane" Sent: 04/07/2018 19:00:33 Subject: Re: Topband: Bevera

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning

2018-07-04 Thread Peter Voelpel
...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of pa...@home.nl Sent: Mittwoch, 4. Juli 2018 21:56 To: 'Ashraf Chaabane' Cc: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning Another question might be; how close by is this BC station or any other AM BCB stations? Please consider a HP BC stopfilter 73

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning

2018-07-04 Thread pa5mw
Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning Mark, I'm planning to have the termination value adjustment excercice for F/B maximisation using a BC station signal. However, does SWR measurement have to do also with the termination value? Or that's rather the matching transformer that I should act

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning

2018-07-04 Thread donovanf
ly 4, 2018 2:13:27 PM Subject: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning Hi All I measured the SWR in my beverage antenna; the SWR fluctuates between 1.5 and 3 in a range of 1.8 to 7 MHz. (See: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B9AtNpPfAOUMRDNsaXROMG1VUTg?usp=sharing ) I know SWR should not var

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning

2018-07-04 Thread Lloyd - N9LB
, July 04, 2018 9:13 AM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning Hi All I measured the SWR in my beverage antenna; the SWR fluctuates between 1.5 and 3 in a range of 1.8 to 7 MHz. (See: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B9AtNpPfAOUMRDNsaXROMG1VUTg?usp=shar ing ) I

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning

2018-07-04 Thread pa5mw
4, 2018 4:40 PM To: pa...@home.nl Cc: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning Mark, I'm planning to have the termination value adjustment excercice for F/B maximisation using a BC station signal. However, does SWR measurement have to do also with the termination value? O

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning

2018-07-04 Thread Ashraf Chaabane
Behalf Of Ashraf > Chaabane > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 4:13 PM > To: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning > > Hi All > > I measured the SWR in my beverage antenna; the SWR fluctuates between 1.5 > and 3 in a range of 1.8 to 7 MHz. (See:

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning

2018-07-04 Thread pa5mw
the time and tools available. 73 Mark, PA5MW -Original Message- From: Topband On Behalf Of Ashraf Chaabane Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 4:13 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning Hi All I measured the SWR in my beverage antenna; the SWR fluctuates

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning

2018-07-04 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
> What shall I do? Nothing? What you measure should have no practical impact on performance. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2018-07-04 10:13 AM, Ashraf Chaabane wrote: Hi All I measured the SWR in my beverage antenna; the SWR fluctuates between 1.5 and 3 in a range of 1.8 to 7 MHz. (See:

Topband: Beverage Antenna Tuning

2018-07-04 Thread Ashraf Chaabane
Hi All I measured the SWR in my beverage antenna; the SWR fluctuates between 1.5 and 3 in a range of 1.8 to 7 MHz. (See: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B9AtNpPfAOUMRDNsaXROMG1VUTg?usp=sharing ) I know SWR should not vary too much. However, some people are suggesting adjusting the

Topband: Beverage antenna in woods.

2014-11-05 Thread k1fz
Here in mid-coast Maine, the big wet snow storm is starting to melt.  The East Beverage was not hearing 4T4TA well, and an inspection found breaks and multiple large branches on the wire. Two support poles were  also down under very large branches. Large branches here can have the

Re: Topband: Beverage antenna in woods.

2014-11-05 Thread donovanf
: Topband: Beverage antenna in woods. Here in mid-coast Maine, the big wet snow storm is starting to melt. The East Beverage was not hearing 4T4TA well, and an inspection found breaks and multiple large branches on the wire. Two support poles were also down under very large branches. Large branches

Topband: Beverage antenna isolation measurements

2014-09-22 Thread Charles Stackhouse via Topband
I have just finished installing 6 Beverage antennas in the woods north of my house. Details are below. My question to the group involves measuring the isolation of these antennas from my transmitting antennas. I am testing by transmitting on all bands with either 100 or 500 watts and

Re: Topband: Beverage antenna terminations

2013-09-25 Thread Grant Saviers
like carbon film. - Original Message - From: Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com To: Bruce k...@myfairpoint.net; topband@contesting.com Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:55 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage antenna terminations What kind of resistors are you using? They shouldn't do that if you use

Topband: Beverage antenna terminations

2013-09-24 Thread Bruce
After recent night time thunder storm activity, two Beverage antennas lost some directivity. Termination resistors looked normal, but an ohmmeter checked reviled they had each gone hundreds of ohms higher. Replaced resistors and back to normal. 73 Bruce-K1FZ

Re: Topband: Beverage antenna terminations

2013-09-24 Thread Tom W8JI
What kind of resistors are you using? They shouldn't do that if you use the right type. - Original Message - From: Bruce k...@myfairpoint.net To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:50 PM Subject: Topband: Beverage antenna terminations After recent night time

Re: Topband: Beverage antenna terminations

2013-09-24 Thread Bruce
They were supposed to be non-inductive carbon, but need to find something better like carbon film. - Original Message - From: Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com To: Bruce k...@myfairpoint.net; topband@contesting.com Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:55 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage antenna

Re: Topband: Beverage antenna terminations

2013-09-24 Thread George Dubovsky
carbon, but need to find something better like carbon film. - Original Message - From: Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com To: Bruce k...@myfairpoint.net; topband@contesting.com Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:55 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage antenna terminations What kind of resistors

Re: Topband: Beverage antenna terminations

2013-09-24 Thread Tom W8JI
They were supposed to be non-inductive carbon, but need to find something better like carbon film. Any resistor except a big wire wound is non-inductive on a low frequency like 160. What you want is a composition type resistor, either metal or carbon, to handle surges without changing

Re: Topband: Beverage antenna terminations

2013-09-24 Thread Michael Tope
On 9/24/2013 6:05 PM, Tom W8JI wrote: They were supposed to be non-inductive carbon, but need to find something better like carbon film. Any resistor except a big wire wound is non-inductive on a low frequency like 160. What you want is a composition type resistor, either metal or

Topband: Beverage antenna terminations

2013-09-24 Thread Bruce
Thanks for all the termination resistor replies. Will look for Ohmite OX and OY series resistors. The resistors I had were supposed to be Carbon composition, but must not have been. Will discard remaining ones. Thanks again, 73 Bruce-K1FZ _ Topband Reflector

Re: Topband: Beverage antenna terminations

2013-09-24 Thread Mike Waters
Here you go: www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Ohmite/OY471KE I have never lost one of those to a nearby strike. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com _ Topband Reflector

Re: Topband: Beverage antenna terminations

2013-09-24 Thread JC N4IS
: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:46 PM To: Tom W8JI; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage antenna terminations They were supposed to be non-inductive carbon, but need to find something better like carbon film. - Original Message - From: Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com To: Bruce k

Re: Topband: Beverage antenna terminations

2013-09-24 Thread Tom W8JI
Cut one open and look at it. You can tell right away what they are. - Original Message - From: Bruce k...@myfairpoint.net To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 12:40 AM Subject: Topband: Beverage antenna terminations Thanks for all the termination resistor

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna

2012-11-10 Thread The Bucks
Thanks Mike, I already purchased a unidirectional match from Array Solutions so I'm going to go with that for now to the NE. My next beverage will be bidirectional to the NW and SE. That should do it. It makes sense. I picked up about 500ft of bailing wire at the local hardware store and

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna

2012-11-09 Thread Les Kalmus
Bryan, Use RG-6 direct burial or equivalent for the beverage connection. No need to use LMR400. You should be able to find it relatively inexpensively. Make sure you have a matching transformer for the beverage impedance to 72 ohms for the RG-6. W8JI.com will give you just about all the

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna

2012-11-09 Thread Buck wh7dx
I was just reading about SALT spray in Hawaii and the what it does to the soil.. I never thought about that. Salt spray and not much rain for me. Salty volcanic top soil/rock? Again, thanks for all the emails.Helped walk it through. Going N/E and taking it as far away from Dipoles as

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna

2012-11-09 Thread donovanf
Original message Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2012 13:02:36 -0500 From: Les Kalmus w...@bk-lk.com Subject: Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna To: topband@contesting.com Bryan, Use RG-6 direct burial or equivalent for the beverage connection. No need to use LMR400. You should be able to find it relatively

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna

2012-11-09 Thread Mike Waters
That is excellent advice! 160 is a band for vertically-polarized antennas (such as an inverted-L or shunt-fed tower with radials lying on the ground.) http://www.w0btu.com/160_meters.html 73, Mike http://www.w0btu.com/Beverage_antennas.html On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 1:41 PM, donov...@starpower.net

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna

2012-11-09 Thread Mike Waters
Have you ever thought of using a 2-wire bi-directional Beverage? They are not complex at all. It only takes one more wire, two more simple transformers, and one more run of coax. A remote relay and four extra parts even lets you use just one run of coax for both directions. If you run a single

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna

2012-11-09 Thread Grant Saviers
I'm not sure why the bidirectional coaxial cable Beveridge doesn't get more discussion. It is described in ON4UN's book, and seemed to work fine when I built one at a prior QTH, although it does take two feedlines from what would logically be the closest end to the shack. Given the price of

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna

2012-11-09 Thread Mike Waters
That's a good question. :-) Maybe it has something to do with the tension each one will stand. I think that CW or plated steel fence wire will stand a lot more tensioning than coax. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 9:36 PM, Grant Saviers gran...@pacbell.net wrote: I'm not sure

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna;

2012-07-24 Thread Mike Greenway
Guy, yes I am using WD1A on a 800 ft reversible around 12 high that has helped me work some tough ones in both directions E-W. I am using KD9SVs matching units. I have nothing to compare it with right now. 73 Mike K4PI ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB