This wouldn't be much of a problem if the callsign goes with the
station, not the operator.
The list operations were indeed like shooting fish in a barrel, but at
least (it seemed like) everyone used their own gun and their own
bullets...i.e., their own station callsign, from their own
At NP2P (N2TTA opp. my remote contest setup) I use Remote Rig and both
the Icom 7100 and the Kenwood TS-2000 is an SO2R configuration. Both
radios have a complete remote control heads at the location of the
operator that is as good as being behind that actual radio. An on
screen via Team
Shoot I was wondering when there was going to be a CW operation from P5
since Rodman goes over all the time, thinking top band guys may have an
edge :o)
Merv K9FD/KH6
I forgot to add that with a name like Rodman all you need are some
tattoos and a few gold rings through your lips and you
Let's put this into context. This is not the end of the world.
Amateur Radio is a hobby and like any hobby has various facets. Different
people have various ideas of what the hobby should be. Some hams are or imagine
themselves to be experimenters, engineers, metalworkers, awards collectors,
, or operate from a big multi-multi contest station without leaving your
apartment.
Best, Kevin
- Original Message -
From: Eddy Swynar deswy...@xplornet.ca
To: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 4:05:09 PM
Subject: Topband: Brave New World
Hi Guys,
I am really truly
On 2/26/2015 9:37 AM, mstang...@comcast.net wrote:
Let's put this into context. This is not the end of the world.
It is the creation of a whole new world. One that has opened many doors
for people to operate and enjoy ham radio and even extend their ability
to radio in their older years.
I operate my home station every day using a computer in my office from 70
miles
away over the internet.
It's no different than sitting in front of the equipment.
No offense but I suggest you get some more exciting radio equipment to run.
73
Rob
K5UJ
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Herb,
I understand your frustration with your call sign screw ups. I get the same
thing from time to time using a VA prefix. I worked North Korea on both 10
and 15m, but the 15m contact was no where to be found, nothing even close.
That and other screw ups has taught me to make sure I am in the
multi-multi contest station without leaving your apartment.
Best, Kevin
- Original Message -
From: Eddy Swynar deswy...@xplornet.ca
To: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 4:05:09 PM
Subject: Topband: Brave New World
Hi Guys,
I am really truly surprised
I don't understand the issue. If the people operating the remote station
give their location as the location of that station then what's the
problem? Propagation doesn't care where the operator is sitting. Neither
does the ability of the operator to work a station.
That said, of course if the
@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Brave New World
I forgot to add that with a name like Rodman all you need are some tattoos and
a few gold rings through your lips and you can probably have a clear path to
setting this stuff up yourself.☺
Herb, KV4FZ
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This is a good example of the entitlement crowd attitude. They believe that
all the DXCC entities need to be available NOW, no waiting. Reaching the
top of the honor roll was long term plan that kept us interested in DXing
for a lifetime. Now some want it to be just like a mail order degree ...
Doug, How-long is now? There is nothing instant about working North
Korea for DXCC. It would take much time and meticulous planning. And
some places I worked have been for decades. Actually waiting for and
working BS7H and then got that dreaded message I was not in the
log...I probably will
Huh? What's that about?
Jim W1YY/7
-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Herbert
Schoenbohm
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 5:24 AM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Brave New World
I forgot to add that with a name like
[mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Herbert
Schoenbohm
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 5:24 AM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Brave New World
I forgot to add that with a name like Rodman all you need are some tattoos and
a few gold rings through your lips and you
I forgot to add that with a name like Rodman all you need are some
tattoos and a few gold rings through your lips and you can probably have
a clear path to setting this stuff up yourself.☺
Herb, KV4FZ
On 2/26/2015 9:11 AM, Herbert Schoenbohm wrote:
At NP2P (N2TTA opp. my remote contest setup)
On Thu,2/26/2015 7:29 AM, kol...@rcn.com wrote:
Sometimes it's more in how things are presented. The thing that struck me was
how the ARRL looked at it was some kind of triumphant feat when it struck me
as, ultimately, kind of sad.
Have you ever visited a multi-transmitter contesting
I operate my home station every day using a computer in my office from 70
miles
away over the internet.
It's no different than sitting in front of the equipment.
No offense but I suggest you get some more exciting radio equipment to
run.
...something that buzzes, arcs, sparks, clicks,
CW is much more popular since the FCC removed the requirement for the code
I'm calling BS on that one.
Tune across the CW bands at night. Very little activity compared to
30 or 40 years ago.
Of course, I define CW activity as being real CW operating, i.e.
ragchewing, handling
None taken...my K3 ' s are enough.
div Original message /divdivFrom: Rob Atkinson
ranchoro...@gmail.com /divdivDate:02/26/2015 10:57 (GMT-06:00)
/divdivTo: topband@contesting.com /divdivSubject: Re: Topband: Brave
New World /divdiv
/div I operate my home station every day
Well, I *don't* understand why people are upset about this.
The K4VV crowd operated a station in Virginia that had all it's antennas
and all the RX and all the TX on one local property. They reported their
logs as VA, USA. That hardly seems a stretch of rules. The rules don't say
anything about
On Thu,2/26/2015 10:41 AM, Charlie wrote:
The serious DX chasers, especially Topband, are faced with a dilemma now.
Anyone who wants to pay the $$ can be at the head of the line for a rare one
by remoting to a world class station, rather than using his own equipment.
Many will elect to do
On 2015-02-26, at 2:14 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
On 2/26/2015 11:41 AM, Charlie wrote:
Say there are 30 folks lined up on a chat board waiting their turn to call
EP6T from WX1XXX when the band opens. The order of calling has been
predecided, perhaps in sequence of log in.
26, 2015 12:49:28 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Brave New World
On Thu,2/26/2015 7:29 AM, kol...@rcn.com wrote:
Sometimes it's more in how things are presented. The thing that struck me was
how the ARRL looked at it was some kind of triumphant feat when it struck me
as, ultimately, kind of sad
of it is not through rose colored glasses.
We will all adjust.
73 Charlie N8RR
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 12:14:09 -0700
From: w...@w0mu.com
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Brave New World
On 2/26/2015 11:41 AM, Charlie wrote:
Say there are 30 folks lined up on a chat
On Thu,2/26/2015 11:59 AM, kol...@rcn.com wrote:
What's sad in my view, is that in my M/M and M/S experiences, one of the
greatest parts was getting together with the ops I was friends with that, due
to time, distance or both, I didn't get to see much. The contest was fun, but
the comradery
Except it is not an ABUSE of the rules. People feel that it is an abuse
but it is fully sanctioned by the ARRL.
If people want to pay to use a station in NY that is their choice. How
does that choice impact any of us? My DXCC and awards are MINE your
participation on the bands has nothing
Yes!
Mike W0MU
On 2/26/2015 10:49 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
On Thu,2/26/2015 7:29 AM, kol...@rcn.com wrote:
Sometimes it's more in how things are presented. The thing that
struck me was how the ARRL looked at it was some kind of triumphant
feat when it struck me as, ultimately, kind of sad.
I receive the list archived and this makes replying to individual posts
difficult.
It seems to me W0BTU summed it up succinctly. There are time delays and
depending on the setup, it it varies from no factor to disabling.
I don't know what others have for remote stations. I can tell you, I
Hi Guys,
I am really truly surprised that nobody here has raised so much as even an
eyebrow at this story:
http://www.arrl.org/news/no-one-in-the-shack-as-station-logs-4200-contacts-in-arrl-dx-cw-contest
The whole notion---to me, at any rate---compromises the very essence the
...joie de
I just ordered a remoterig control box to allow my K3 to control remote
stations. I'm not currently able to set up much of a station and so
looking forward to being able to operate in more contests using remote
stations. With two young kids my wife is less than thrilled at the idea of
me being
Notice how ARRL is endorsing all of this. read that first paragraph,
especially: The scattered K3TN team worked *via the Internet *through
the station of Jack Hammett, K4VV. I thought our hobby was about radio,
not internet.
On 2/25/2015 9:05 PM, Eddy Swynar wrote:
Hi Guys,
I am really
I can understand why people are upset about this. But the reality is that
no matter how upset we decide to be about this sort of thing, it's simply
going to happen more and more.
There's some truth to the saying, Don't worry, be happy. :-)
The rest of us can operate our stations the right way.
-Original Message-
From: Dave Blaschke, w5un w...@wt.net
Sent: Feb 25, 2015 3:26 PM
To: Eddy Swynar deswy...@xplornet.ca, topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Brave New World
Notice how ARRL is endorsing all of this. read that first paragraph,
especially: The scattered K3TN team worked *via
This is just the beginning!
Dave, W5UN
On 2/25/2015 9:05 PM, Eddy Swynar wrote:
Hi Guys,
I am really truly surprised that nobody here has raised so much as even an
eyebrow at this story:
http://www.arrl.org/news/no-one-in-the-shack-as-station-logs-4200-contacts-in-arrl-dx-cw-contest
The
Maybe NET Neutrality will take care of this for us. :-(
-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Waters
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 4:37 PM
To: topband
Subject: Re: Topband: Brave New World
I can understand why people are upset
Money talks, see full page 8 add in recent QST mags.
K2UF
-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Blaschke, w5un
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 4:26 PM
To: Eddy Swynar; topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Brave New World
Well the same thing is going on with the Olympics. Steroids are supposedly
banned if you get caught. New ways to hid the use of steroids continues.
Eventually the use of steroids will be accepted because the regulators fail.
Same thing with ham radio. New ways to cheat are evolving, are being
Most of us are creatures of habit.
I Didn't like the change over to SSB, New WARC bands, computer tuned
Radios. It goes on and on.
Wonder if the Spark transmitter guys wanted to keep the smell of
Ozone when tubes came along ? hi ( ; ))
We'll survive this some how.
73
Bruce-k1fz
-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Blaschke, w5un
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 4:26 PM
To: Eddy Swynar; topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Brave New World
Notice how ARRL is endorsing all of this. read that first
: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 13:13
Subject: Re: Topband: Brave New World
This is just the beginning!
Dave, W5UN
On 2/25/2015 9:05 PM, Eddy Swynar wrote:
Hi Guys,
I am really truly surprised that nobody here has raised so much as even an eyebrow at
this story:
http://www.arrl.org/news/no-one
On Wed,2/25/2015 1:05 PM, Eddy Swynar wrote:
The whole notion---to me, at any rate---compromises the very essence the ...joie de
vivre! of operating on 160-meters, don't you think...? And to imagine that one of the
perpetrators in all this is actually exuberant about his accomplishment...
I
Sounds like phone sex to menot my bag.
You can hang up a picture of whatever partner you like and call them your
significant other...just can't substitute for being there.
Next big thing will be to drop a package station on Scarborough Reef and have a
remote team operate it and call it a
Hi Guys,
Is the day very far off in the distant future when the physical human element
won't even be needed at a radio station on the eve of a contest...?
Just programme the event into the computer, hook it up to the rig...and then go
off to bed. The next day you meander down to the shack,
Bingo. Exactly.
And there's one thing that no one has mentioned yet: A station in a
contest, that's remotely-controlled over the internet, has the significant
disadvantage of time delays.
Oh, yes they do. I don't care how big and fast a pipe anyone buys.
Those delay times are not only
Really?
Many remotes use K3's with one of the radios being another K3 or scaled
back version of a K3. You still sit at the radio and turn the knobs.
Remote radio has been around a lot longer than many think. It was only
for the very well off to do it.
The internet is simply an extension
there will never be a level playing field.
as for me,,,Ill simply turn the other cheek
all the best for all 73 john w8wej
On 2/26/2015 12:28 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
On Wed,2/25/2015 3:26 PM, john wrote:
are actually physically there--they are not in my opinion , hired
guns, that description is
On Wed,2/25/2015 3:26 PM, john wrote:
are actually physically there--they are not in my opinion , hired
guns, that description is unnecessarily unkind and incorrect , in my
opinion, they are operating radio(s) on site..on site being the key
I appreciate the efforts of w3lpl's et al stations
[mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Waters
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 4:37 PM
To: topband
Subject: Re: Topband: Brave New World
I can understand why people are upset about this. But the reality is that no
matter how upset we decide to be about this sort of thing, it's
uh,,, they ,(the operators), are actually physically
there--they are not in my opinion , hired guns, that description is
unnecessarily unkind and incorrect , in my opinion, they are operating
radio(s) on site..on site being the key
I appreciate the efforts of w3lpl's et al
I can tell from reading the Against Messages in this thread that those who
are against remote operation have never operated a remote setup.
Somewhat like Glenn below .. except in my case it is 1200 miles between
my summer home where my station is located and my Winter Home in
Florida. I do
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