Topband: Broadband Inverted L

2014-11-20 Thread Joe Galicic
I moved my 160 inverted L to a tall tree in my backyard to get more vertical height. The vertical leg is now about 65 feet and the rest (65feet) is horizontal. I fed this one with about 125 feet of 75 ohm coax just because I had lots of it laying around. No tuners, baluns, ununs or chokes in

Re: Topband: Broadband Inverted L

2014-11-20 Thread Mike Waters
It sure IS broadbanded. Couple of questions: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Joe Galicic gali...@comcast.net wrote: The ground is connected to the existing ground system for the old L. Can you describe this? I get a 1.1 SWR reading from 1.8 to 1.9 before it moves up to 1.3 and slightly

Re: Topband: Broadband Inverted L

2014-11-20 Thread Joe Galicic
@contesting.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 11:17:16 AM Subject: Re: Topband: Broadband Inverted L It sure IS broadbanded. Couple of questions: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Joe Galicic gali...@comcast.net wrote: The ground is connected to the existing ground system for the old L. Can

Re: Topband: Broadband Inverted L

2014-11-20 Thread Gene Smar
Joe: Don't ask questions and just enjoy the antenna's performance. 73 de Gene Smar AD3F On 11/20/14, Joe Galicic wrote: I moved my 160 inverted L to a tall tree in my backyard to get more vertical height. The vertical leg is now about 65 feet and the rest (65feet) is

Re: Topband: Broadband Inverted L

2014-11-20 Thread Lloyd Berg - N9LB
, and attach to the previous ground system too. 73 Lloyd - N9LB -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Joe Galicic Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 11:11 AM To: Mike Waters Cc: List, TopBand Subject: Re: Topband: Broadband Inverted L Mike

Re: Topband: Broadband Inverted L

2014-11-20 Thread Jim Brown
On Thu,11/20/2014 9:25 AM, Gene Smar wrote: Don't ask questions and just enjoy the antenna's performance. A low SWR is NOT an indicator of an antenna's performance. It only indicates a match to the transmission line. In this case, the low SWR suggests that the antenna is highly resistive.

Re: Topband: Broadband Inverted L

2014-11-20 Thread Tom W8JI
Joe posted, I moved my 160 inverted L to a tall tree in my backyard to get more vertical height. The vertical leg is now about 65 feet and the rest (65feet) is horizontal. I fed this one with about 125 feet of 75 ohm coax just because I had lots of it laying around. No tuners, baluns, ununs

Re: Topband: Broadband Inverted L

2014-11-20 Thread Mike Waters
Have you considered elevated radials? Four of them 10' high (or even two!) would be MUCH better than what you have right now. My 160m Inverted-L: http://www.w0btu.com/160_meters.html#inv-l_antenna 73, Mike www.w0btu.com _ Topband Reflector Archives -

Re: Topband: Broadband Inverted L

2014-11-20 Thread Joe Galicic
foot high wooden privacy fence. Can I lay down radials more over top of the old ones? - Original Message - From: Mike Waters mikew...@gmail.com To: List, TopBand topband@contesting.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:23:32 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Broadband Inverted L Have you

Re: Topband: Broadband Inverted L

2014-11-20 Thread Joe Galicic
, TopBand topband@contesting.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 2:12:28 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Broadband Inverted L Thanks everyone ! Interesting. I knew something was not quite right. I thought I could tap into the existing ground system but obviously that is not going to be the case. I could

Re: Topband: Broadband Inverted L

2014-11-20 Thread Tom W8JI
Ground systems cannot be evaluated or estimated by number of feet of wire, just like they cannot be evaluated by SWR or bandwidth, but I'm sure we all agree on this.. The single most important thing Joe said was: The antenna feed point terminates at a four foot ground rod and then I am

Re: Topband: Broadband Inverted L

2014-11-20 Thread Joe Galicic
Subject: Re: Topband: Broadband Inverted L Ground systems cannot be evaluated or estimated by number of feet of wire, just like they cannot be evaluated by SWR or bandwidth, but I'm sure we all agree on this.. The single most important thing Joe said was: The antenna feed point

Re: Topband: Broadband Inverted L

2014-11-20 Thread DGB
Exactly what I thought ... any way to slope the leg of the L to get it at the junction of the redials? de ns9i On 11/20/2014 1:17 PM, Tom W8JI wrote: Ground systems cannot be evaluated or estimated by number of feet of wire, just like they cannot be evaluated by SWR or bandwidth, but I'm

Re: Topband: Broadband Inverted L

2014-11-20 Thread Jim Brown
On Thu,11/20/2014 11:17 AM, Tom W8JI wrote: Joe's antenna virtually doesn't have a ground connection to radials at all, and this has almost nothing to do with the number of radials or type of radials. Yes, but there's another important concept that is being missed here. The function of a

Re: Topband: Broadband Inverted L

2014-11-20 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
A few years ago I put up a temporary 60 foot vertical over my 230 foot diameter ground screen. It was top loaded with 2 umbrella wires sloping down. The bandwidth was MUCH narrower than your 65 foot vertical. IIRC, the 3:1 VSWR bandwidth was less than 50 kHz. The feedpoint impedance was about

Re: Topband: Broadband Inverted L

2014-11-20 Thread Charlie Cunningham
a lot! Mine was about 75 feet! 73, Charlie, K4OTV -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joe Galicic Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 2:12 PM To: Mike Waters Cc: List, TopBand Subject: Re: Topband: Broadband Inverted L Thanks everyone