Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-11 Thread Mark Lunday
opband Subject: Re: Topband: CQ Zones Hi CQ WW CW 160m Contest 2021 DL1FY : https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DQwEzX3rrQU4data=04%7C01%7C%7C87f64aadfdc44db6ecbe08d8e4abe7bf%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637510774285689869%7CU

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-11 Thread uy0zg
Hi CQ WW CW 160m Contest 2021 DL1FY : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwEzX3rrQU4 --- Nick, UY0ZG http://www.topband.in.ua Andy Blank писал 2021-03-11 17:42: How about this to change the mood. If anyone operated the CQ 160 CW or SSB contest this year and has some station pictures

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-11 Thread Andy Blank
How about this to change the mood. If anyone operated the CQ 160 CW or SSB contest this year and has some station pictures (preferably with you in them)... Please forward them to me directly. I am looking to feature some ops that have not been in the writeups before. No matter how small the

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-11 Thread Mike Waters
Well said. It's past time for that. 73 Mike W0BTU On Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 11:00 PM W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote: > Seems like it might be time to remove or moderate people on this list. > This is a bit over the top. > > _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband -

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-10 Thread List Mail
Um, I meant 34 CQ Zones of course! Sent from Mail for Windows 10 I’m hoping to improve on my 143 countries on Top, and remembering the topic of this thread, 43 CQ Zones. 73, Luke VK3HJ _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-10 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
Seems like it might be time to remove or moderate people on this list.  This is a bit over the top. On 3/10/2021 11:59 AM, ok1tn wrote: VA3DX pity you have such a nice callsign. Martin is a very erudite technician and a perfect operator. I don't even think you know what you're saying and you

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-10 Thread List Mail
of it while I can! I’m hoping to improve on my 143 countries on Top, and remembering the topic of this thread, 43 CQ Zones. 73, Luke VK3HJ Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Jim Thomson Sent: Thursday, 11 March 2021 3:38 AM To: TopBand List Subject: Topband: CQ Zones You folks using CW have

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-10 Thread ok1tn
-- Původní e-mail -- Od: Dave Heil Komu: topband@contesting.com Datum: 10. 3. 2021 19:47:51 Předmět: Re: Topband: CQ Zones "Do me a favor, Glenn;  read what you just sent and then look into a mirror. Dave K8MN On 3/9/2021 08:45 PM, Glenn Wyant wrote: > And you decide whether a

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-10 Thread Dave Heil
 [External Email] FT4 FT8 is just a computer game. It's not a ham radio OK1TN -- 73 Slavek Zeler -- Původní e-mail -- Od: Chortek, Robert L. Komu: Joe Subich, W4TV Datum: 9. 3. 2021 16:31:21 Předmět: Re: Topband: CQ Zones THANK YOU JOE! That pretty much captures the deb

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-10 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/10/2021 8:38 AM, Jim Thomson wrote: So its all relative really. Great post, Jim. 73, Jim K9YC _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-10 Thread uy0zg
160 m and is interesting because there are many obstacles on it. Of course, technical progress should help. But only within strictly reasonable limits! Unfortunately, the time has come when many (especially those who create the rules) do not respect these reasonable limits. Why? Probably

Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-10 Thread Jim Thomson
You folks using CW have a HUGE advantage over the SSB operator. And folks using a remote RX have a bigger advantage over everybody. And hams, who live on 5-10 acres out in the bushhave a huge advantage over us mere mortals on postage stamp sized city lots, surrounded by noise in all

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/9/2021 3:50 PM, Martin Kratoska wrote: SECOND - am I allowed to differ between a QSO between living operators (possibly friends) and two machines? Martin, As has been said of some American politicians, we are certainly entitled to our own opinions, but we are not entitled to our own

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread Wes
Ah but, there used to be an RTTY DXCC (which I have) that has now been bastardized into "Digital".  They should have maintained the (traditional) RTTY award and added an award for the digital stuff.  Since they have not seen fit to do this, I am forced to carefully avoid applying for LoTW

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread Glenn Wyant
avorable? >>>> >>>> 5. Have you then, after all that, called that DX and made the contact? >>>> >>>> If that does not qualify as ham radio, I’m not sure what does. >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> >>>> Bob/AA6VB >&g

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread kolson
n Kratoska To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Tue, 09 Mar 2021 18:50:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Topband: CQ Zones Jim, FIRST - thank you so much for your excellent technical references. It helps a lot, I highly appreciate your unparalleled performance. SECOND - am I allowed to differ between a Q

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread Martin Kratoska
Jim, FIRST - thank you so much for your excellent technical references. It helps a lot, I highly appreciate your unparalleled performance. SECOND - am I allowed to differ between a QSO between living operators (possibly friends) and two machines? If yes, allow me, please keep the difference

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread Martin Kratoska
il] FT4 FT8 is just a computer game. It's not a ham radio OK1TN -- 73 Slavek Zeler -- Původní e-mail -- Od: Chortek, Robert L. Komu: Joe Subich, W4TV Datum: 9. 3. 2021 16:31:21 Předmět: Re: Topband: CQ Zones THANK YOU JOE! That pretty much captures the debate. 73, Bob/AA6VB Robert L

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
On 2021-03-09 3:30 PM, Wes wrote: > He said, "or machine." And there he just blew up his own argument. The "machine" (computer) actually copies the callsign(s) in an FT4/FT8/JT9/JT65/FST4 QSO just as it does with RTTY (MMTTY or 2Tone) or PSK##, Olivia, MFSK### (fldigi, DM780, etc.) or a

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread Mike Smith VE9AA
Hi Dave, Long time no talk. I am not a certificate hunter either, but I keep track of DXCC's and Zones in a book. That being said, I am hoping you'll receive the answers you seek, as I too, would like to work that corner of the world on 160m (on CW) as well. GL Neighbour ! Mike

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread mw_comercial
2021 4:30 PM To: Joe Subich, W4TV Cc: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: CQ Zones THANK YOU JOE! That pretty much captures the debate. 73, Bob/AA6VB Robert L. Chortek On Mar 9, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: [External Email] Oh PLEASE! You sound just like AM phone ope

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread Glenn Wyant
gt; >>  >> >> [External Email] >> >> FT4 FT8 is just a computer game. It's not a ham radio >> OK1TN >> -- >> 73 Slavek Zeler >> >> >> -- Původní e-mail -- >> Od: Chortek, Robert L. >> Komu: Joe

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread Wes
He said, "or machine." On 3/9/2021 12:49 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On 3/9/2021 10:56 AM, Preston Smith wrote: RTTY, Pactor, Amtor etc) the operator or machine must actually copy the call sign of the station being worked. Are you telling us that you can copy RTTY, Pactor, Amtor with your own

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread Wes
I think "illegal" might be a little strong but I agree the JT modes should have separate awards.  I also understand this discussion began talking about CQ awards, something I've never pursued. That said, one of my DXCC certificates says. "RTTY" on it.  I understand that ARRL has decided to

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/9/2021 10:56 AM, Preston Smith wrote: RTTY, Pactor, Amtor etc) the operator or machine must actually copy the call sign of the station being worked. Are you telling us that you can copy RTTY, Pactor, Amtor with your own ear/brain? WOW! I do a lot of RTTY in contests and I've never

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/9/2021 8:04 AM, ok1tn wrote: FT4 FT8 is just a computer game. It's not a ham radio Oh -- so my 100 ft Tee with 70+ radials, two 500+ ft reversible Beverages and phased VE3DO loops, and my 60 years of studying propagation don't matter? BS! 73, Jim K9YC _ Searchable

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/9/2021 6:36 AM, Martin Kratoska wrote: Oh, FT8 should be proclaimed as illegal for DXCC (WAZ, WAS etc.) in mixed categories. This "mode" should be counted completely separated from traditional modes like CW or SSB. Why? I'm a VERY old dog who can still copy CW in my sleep, but who is

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
On 2021-03-09 1:56 PM, Preston Smith wrote: In the JT modes with weak signals the program copies a portion of the call and completes the call by comparing the partial call to a call sign data base. *THAT IS NOT TRUE* you need to study Joe Taylor's modes/code more carefully. Joe Taylor's

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread Preston Smith
> To: mar...@ok1rr.com > Cc: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Re: Topband: CQ Zones > Message-ID: <19d75e97-a827-4a82-b680-bd2db9c4b...@hjelmstrom.se> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > AGREE 100 % with you Martin /OK1RR. > > This FT 8 PC to PC playgame i

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread John Harden, D.M.D.
h 09, 2021 10:05 AM > To: Chortek, Robert L. > Cc: topband@contesting.com; Joe Subich, W4TV > Subject: Re: Topband: CQ Zones > > FT4 FT8 is just a computer game. It's not a ham radio OK1TN > -- > 73 Slavek Zeler > > > -- Původní e-mail -- > Od

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread kolson
straight keys). Back when men were men and so were women... 73, Kevin K3OX - Original Message - From: ok1tn To: Robert L. Chortek Cc: topband@contesting.com, Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Tue, 09 Mar 2021 11:04:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Topband: CQ Zones FT4 FT8 is just a computer game. It's

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread Martin Kratoska
On Mar 9, 2021, at 8:04 AM, ok1tn wrote:  [External Email] FT4 FT8 is just a computer game. It's not a ham radio OK1TN -- 73 Slavek Zeler -- Původní e-mail -- Od: Chortek, Robert L. Komu: Joe Subich, W4TV Datum: 9. 3. 2021 16:31:21 Předmět: Re: Topband: CQ Zones THANK YOU J

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread Mike Waters
On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 10:36 AM Lloyd - N9LB wrote: > Will someone please start an "I Hate FT8" group and move all this > unproductive chatter off of the Top Band reflector. > Thank you, Lloyd! I couldn't agree more. The full moon must be waking the curmudgeons from their coffins. Enough of this

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread Lloyd - N9LB
o: Chortek, Robert L. Cc: topband@contesting.com; Joe Subich, W4TV Subject: Re: Topband: CQ Zones FT4 FT8 is just a computer game. It's not a ham radio OK1TN -- 73 Slavek Zeler -- Původní e-mail -- Od: Chortek, Robert L. Komu: Joe Subich, W4TV Datum: 9. 3. 2021 16:31:21 Předmět: R

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread Salvatore ["Ted"] K2QMF
:  [External Email] FT4 FT8 is just a computer game. It's not a ham radio OK1TN -- 73 Slavek Zeler -- Původní e-mail -- Od: Chortek, Robert L. Komu: Joe Subich, W4TV Datum: 9. 3. 2021 16:31:21 Předmět: Re: Topband: CQ Zones THANK YOU JOE! That pretty much captures the debate. 73

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread Chortek, Robert L.
: Topband: CQ Zones THANK YOU JOE! That pretty much captures the debate. 73, Bob/AA6VB Robert L. Chortek > On Mar 9, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > > [External Email] > > Oh PLEASE! You sound just like AM phone operators when SSB came > along. And spark operato

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread uy0zg
Hi Dave I will disappoint you - R8WF is in zone 16. --- Nick, UY0ZG http://www.topband.in.ua David Olean писал 2021-03-09 15:29: I am not a certificate hunter, but I was curious to see how many CQ zones I had worked on 160 meters.  Getting all 40 zones on 160 is a challenge. My list

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread ok1tn
FT4 FT8 is just a computer game. It's not a ham radio OK1TN -- 73 Slavek Zeler -- Původní e-mail -- Od: Chortek, Robert L. Komu: Joe Subich, W4TV Datum: 9. 3. 2021 16:31:21 Předmět: Re: Topband: CQ Zones "THANK YOU JOE! That pretty much captures the debate. 73, Bob/

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread Chortek, Robert L.
rogram. >> >> IMHO, this should NEVER be allowed unless qualified in a separate rules >> category! >> >> Karel OK1CF >> __ >>> Od: "Martin Kratoska" >>> Komu: topband@contestin

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
FT4, FT8 for the ARRL DXCC Program. IMHO, this should NEVER be allowed unless qualified in a separate rules category! Karel OK1CF __ Od: "Martin Kratoska" Komu: topband@contesting.com Datum: 09.03.2021 15:37 Předmět: Re: T

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread Karel Matousek
esting.com Datum: 09.03.2021 15:37 Předmět: Re: Topband: CQ Zones Oh, FT8 should be proclaimed as illegal for DXCC (WAZ, WAS etc.) in mixed categories. This "mode" should be counted completely separated from traditional modes like CW or SSB. 73, Martin, OK1RR Dne 09. 03. 21 v 15:

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
to use FT8 for the BY stations, since they seem strongly to prefer that mode. 73 and GL! Ian G4iiY -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces+zen90387=zen.co...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of David Olean Sent: 09 March 2021 13:30 To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: C

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread Hans Hjelmström
strongly to prefer that mode. >> >> 73 and GL! >> >> Ian G4iiY >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces+zen90387=zen.co...@contesting.com] On >> Behalf Of David Olean >> Sent: 09 March 2021 13:30 >> To: to

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread Martin Kratoska
m: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces+zen90387=zen.co...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of David Olean Sent: 09 March 2021 13:30 To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: CQ Zones I am not a certificate hunter, but I was curious to see how many CQ zones I had worked on 160 meters. Getting all 40 zo

Re: Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread Ian Fugler
! Ian G4iiY -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces+zen90387=zen.co...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of David Olean Sent: 09 March 2021 13:30 To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: CQ Zones I am not a certificate hunter, but I was curious to see how many CQ zones I had

Topband: CQ Zones

2021-03-09 Thread David Olean
I am not a certificate hunter, but I was curious to see how many CQ zones I had worked on 160 meters.  Getting all 40 zones on 160 is a challenge. My list includes 38 of the 40 CQ zones,  and only zones 23 and 24 are still unworked.. My question is how to nab these last two?  Part of my