Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

2023-11-01 Thread uy0zg via Topband

Thomas

I expressed my opinion on the topic in a very cultured manner, based on 
facts and experience. But I was forced to respond to the insult of an 
inadequate person. So sorry.


This isn't the worst thing. Here, sometimes rockets and drones fly above 
our heads. And we live and work on the air.


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Thomas Hoyer писал 2023-11-01 13:49:

Wow - I joined this group to help me with top band dxing, not to see
personal insults and attacks being thrown around. I can see that every
day in the news... I will be unsubscribing.

W3TA

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Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

2023-11-01 Thread Thomas Hoyer via Topband
 Wow - I joined this group to help me with top band dxing, not to see personal 
insults and attacks being thrown around. I can see that every day in the 
news... I will be unsubscribing.
W3TA
On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 05:02:54 AM EDT, uy0zg via Topband 
 wrote:  
 
 Sam

What don't you like?

Are you already at home or still in a psychiatric hospital?

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http://www.topband.in.ua

Saulius Zalnerauskas писал 2023-11-01 10:50:
> Who will STOP this madman?
> 
> Sam LY5W
> 
> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 10:48 AM uy0zg via Topband
>  wrote:
> 
>> Are you Steve probably a big boss?
>> 
>> You give instructions on what you can talk about and what you
>> can’t talk
>> 
>> about... I advise you to give such orders to your wife at home.
>> 
>> I don’t believe in your heroic past. I think you have always been
>> only
>> collectors of new countries. OK. I won't upset you anymore.
>> 
>> Can you make a detailed video of the RX system you are going to use
>> to
>> listen to the KH8? People will be interested.
>> 
>> ---
>> Nick, UY0ZG
>> http://www.topband.in.ua
>> 
>> HA0DU Steve писал 2023-11-01 10:22:
>>> Dear Nick,
>>> 
>>> THIS THREAD IS ABOUT GEORGE ACTIVATING KH8.
>>> 
>>> 73 Steve HA0DU
>>> 
>>> PS Yes I am only (mostly) interested in new ones on 160 meters.
>>> Between 1988 and 2010 I had a wonderful QTH, and I worked
>> everything,
>>> or mostly everything. But for your sake, my 10 last QSOs on 160,
>>> 2019-2023: TK0C, V84SAA, UA3SFF, K9FD/KH6, AH7C, VP6R, TC0X, K9DR,
>>> SV2RSG/A, 4W6RU, ZD9W. Only 4W6RU was a new one. I am not in the
>> VE6WZ
>>> log, because I had worked all NA decades before you started to
>>> whine...
>>> 
>>> uy0zg  ezt írta (időpont: 2023. nov. 1., Sze,
>>> 7:13):
>>> 
 Dear Steve. When was the last time you were on the air on 160?
 
 After all, this is the basis of our life. Or are you busy only
>> with
 new
 
 countries??
 
 You are not even in the VE6WZ log ( щт 160 ):
 
 https://clublog.org/logsearch/VE6WZ
 
 Is life passing you by? :-(
 
 ---
 Nick, UY0ZG
 http://www.topband.in.ua
 
 uy0zg via Topband писал 2023-11-01 07:14:
> Steve HA0DU - there is no need to react so painfully to reality.
> 
> 
> Do you think that if in a log of 70 QSOs only 2-3 are real, then
 this
> is normal?
> 
> This is not only not normal, it is a tragedy. Severe incurable
 disease.
> 
> 
> However, I am not against the expedition. I wish you success
>> Steve
 in
> your new country. I have normal RX antennas and will also try to
> listen (if there is CW).
> 
> 
> ---
> Nick, UY0ZG
> http://www.topband.in.ua
> 
> HA0DU Steve писал 2023-10-31 23:51:
>> Greetings to All,
>> 
>> W8S took place in early October, when the common darkness with
 Europe
>> was much shorter (most probably none with Western Europe). Do
>> ot
>> compare apples with oranges. E51D, 5W0LM, T2C, W8S, E6AM all
 worked
>> some EU, even if it was not their main target!
>> 
>> Nick, could you please STOP your negative comments!
>> I am sure most of Top Banders would like this operation to
 happen. I
>> am also sure George is a very good operator, and it is about
>> time
 that
>> someone with the proper equipment and skills, puts KH8 on the
 map.
>> 
>> Yours truly
>> Steve HA0DU
>> 
>> uy0zg via Topband  ezt írta (időpont:
 2023.
>> okt. 31., K, 22:09):
>> 
>>> https://clublog.org/charts/?c=W8S#r
>>> 
>>> Zone 15 only one QSO - OH2XX
>>> 
>>> Zone 14 - two QSOs. CU2DX and someone else
>>> 
>>> Zone 20 – seven QSOs! World famous Greek web superman SV8BHN
>> +
>>> five more
>>> 
>>> greeks... I didn't look for who is the seventh.
>>> 
>>> -
>>> 
>>> Result - real 2-3 QSOs
>>> 
>>> from Europe
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Nick, UY0ZG
>>> http://www.topband.in.ua
>>> 
>>> GEORGE WALLNER писал 2023-10-31 21:39:
 How did W8S do in EU on 160?
 TKS,
 
 George,
 AA7JV
 
 On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 16:40:02 +0100 Jan Erik Holm via Topband
>>> wrote:
> Nick,
> 
> This is not true at all. As I wrote in a previous mail
> I could copy the W8S exp on 160m for at least 45 minutes.
> I know they had high noise level so that was the problem.
> Sure propagation was much better some years ago during
> sun spot minima but it is very much wrong to say that
> there is no propagation at all to Europe.
> 
> / Jim SM2EKM
> 
> Den 2023-10-31 kl. 16:03, skrev uy0zg via Topband:
> 
>> 
>> In 2013, conditions were normal.
>> Let's look at the log:
>> 

Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

2023-11-01 Thread uy0zg via Topband

Sam

What don't you like?

Are you already at home or still in a psychiatric hospital?

---
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http://www.topband.in.ua

Saulius Zalnerauskas писал 2023-11-01 10:50:

Who will STOP this madman?

Sam LY5W

On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 10:48 AM uy0zg via Topband
 wrote:


Are you Steve probably a big boss?

You give instructions on what you can talk about and what you
can’t talk

about... I advise you to give such orders to your wife at home.

I don’t believe in your heroic past. I think you have always been
only
collectors of new countries. OK. I won't upset you anymore.

Can you make a detailed video of the RX system you are going to use
to
listen to the KH8? People will be interested.

---
Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua

HA0DU Steve писал 2023-11-01 10:22:

Dear Nick,

THIS THREAD IS ABOUT GEORGE ACTIVATING KH8.

73 Steve HA0DU

PS Yes I am only (mostly) interested in new ones on 160 meters.
Between 1988 and 2010 I had a wonderful QTH, and I worked

everything,

or mostly everything. But for your sake, my 10 last QSOs on 160,
2019-2023: TK0C, V84SAA, UA3SFF, K9FD/KH6, AH7C, VP6R, TC0X, K9DR,
SV2RSG/A, 4W6RU, ZD9W. Only 4W6RU was a new one. I am not in the

VE6WZ

log, because I had worked all NA decades before you started to
whine...

uy0zg  ezt írta (időpont: 2023. nov. 1., Sze,
7:13):


Dear Steve. When was the last time you were on the air on 160?

After all, this is the basis of our life. Or are you busy only

with

new

countries??

You are not even in the VE6WZ log ( щт 160 ):

https://clublog.org/logsearch/VE6WZ

Is life passing you by? :-(

---
Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua

uy0zg via Topband писал 2023-11-01 07:14:

Steve HA0DU - there is no need to react so painfully to reality.


Do you think that if in a log of 70 QSOs only 2-3 are real, then

this

is normal?

This is not only not normal, it is a tragedy. Severe incurable

disease.



However, I am not against the expedition. I wish you success

Steve

in

your new country. I have normal RX antennas and will also try to
listen (if there is CW).


---
Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua

HA0DU Steve писал 2023-10-31 23:51:

Greetings to All,

W8S took place in early October, when the common darkness with

Europe

was much shorter (most probably none with Western Europe). Do

ot

compare apples with oranges. E51D, 5W0LM, T2C, W8S, E6AM all

worked

some EU, even if it was not their main target!

Nick, could you please STOP your negative comments!
I am sure most of Top Banders would like this operation to

happen. I

am also sure George is a very good operator, and it is about

time

that

someone with the proper equipment and skills, puts KH8 on the

map.


Yours truly
Steve HA0DU

uy0zg via Topband  ezt írta (időpont:

2023.

okt. 31., K, 22:09):


https://clublog.org/charts/?c=W8S#r

Zone 15 only one QSO - OH2XX

Zone 14 - two QSOs. CU2DX and someone else

Zone 20 – seven QSOs! World famous Greek web superman SV8BHN

+

five more

greeks... I didn't look for who is the seventh.

-

Result - real 2-3 QSOs

from Europe

---
Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua

GEORGE WALLNER писал 2023-10-31 21:39:

How did W8S do in EU on 160?
TKS,

George,
AA7JV

On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 16:40:02 +0100 Jan Erik Holm via Topband

wrote:

Nick,

This is not true at all. As I wrote in a previous mail
I could copy the W8S exp on 160m for at least 45 minutes.
I know they had high noise level so that was the problem.
Sure propagation was much better some years ago during
sun spot minima but it is very much wrong to say that
there is no propagation at all to Europe.

/ Jim SM2EKM

Den 2023-10-31 kl. 16:03, skrev uy0zg via Topband:



In 2013, conditions were normal.
Let's look at the log:
https://clublog.org/charts/?c=W8A
From normal Europe (zones 14, 15, 20) there are only two

Finns

in the

magazine.
There are no conditions today.
Feed the crooks from zone 16?
For what ?
There is enough injustice as it is.
---Nick, UY0ZGhttp://www.topband.in.ua [1] [1] [1]
uy0zg via Topband писал 2023-10-31 16:28:

Hi


Conditions for Europe are completely absent.


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Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

2023-11-01 Thread uy0zg via Topband

Are you Steve probably a big boss?

You give instructions on what you can talk about and what you can’t talk

about... I advise you to give such orders to your wife at home.

I don’t believe in your heroic past. I think you have always been only 
collectors of new countries. OK. I won't upset you anymore.


Can you make a detailed video of the RX system you are going to use to 
listen to the KH8? People will be interested.


---
Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua

HA0DU Steve писал 2023-11-01 10:22:

Dear Nick,

THIS THREAD IS ABOUT GEORGE ACTIVATING KH8.

73 Steve HA0DU

PS Yes I am only (mostly) interested in new ones on 160 meters.
Between 1988 and 2010 I had a wonderful QTH, and I worked everything,
or mostly everything. But for your sake, my 10 last QSOs on 160,
2019-2023: TK0C, V84SAA, UA3SFF, K9FD/KH6, AH7C, VP6R, TC0X, K9DR,
SV2RSG/A, 4W6RU, ZD9W. Only 4W6RU was a new one. I am not in the VE6WZ
log, because I had worked all NA decades before you started to
whine...

uy0zg  ezt írta (időpont: 2023. nov. 1., Sze,
7:13):


Dear Steve. When was the last time you were on the air on 160?

After all, this is the basis of our life. Or are you busy only with
new

countries??

You are not even in the VE6WZ log ( щт 160 ):

https://clublog.org/logsearch/VE6WZ

Is life passing you by? :-(

---
Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua

uy0zg via Topband писал 2023-11-01 07:14:

Steve HA0DU - there is no need to react so painfully to reality.


Do you think that if in a log of 70 QSOs only 2-3 are real, then

this

is normal?

This is not only not normal, it is a tragedy. Severe incurable

disease.



However, I am not against the expedition. I wish you success Steve

in

your new country. I have normal RX antennas and will also try to
listen (if there is CW).


---
Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua

HA0DU Steve писал 2023-10-31 23:51:

Greetings to All,

W8S took place in early October, when the common darkness with

Europe

was much shorter (most probably none with Western Europe). Do ot
compare apples with oranges. E51D, 5W0LM, T2C, W8S, E6AM all

worked

some EU, even if it was not their main target!

Nick, could you please STOP your negative comments!
I am sure most of Top Banders would like this operation to

happen. I

am also sure George is a very good operator, and it is about time

that

someone with the proper equipment and skills, puts KH8 on the

map.


Yours truly
Steve HA0DU

uy0zg via Topband  ezt írta (időpont:

2023.

okt. 31., K, 22:09):


https://clublog.org/charts/?c=W8S#r

Zone 15 only one QSO - OH2XX

Zone 14 - two QSOs. CU2DX and someone else

Zone 20 – seven QSOs! World famous Greek web superman SV8BHN +
five more

greeks... I didn't look for who is the seventh.

-

Result - real 2-3 QSOs

from Europe

---
Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua

GEORGE WALLNER писал 2023-10-31 21:39:

How did W8S do in EU on 160?
TKS,

George,
AA7JV

On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 16:40:02 +0100 Jan Erik Holm via Topband

wrote:

Nick,

This is not true at all. As I wrote in a previous mail
I could copy the W8S exp on 160m for at least 45 minutes.
I know they had high noise level so that was the problem.
Sure propagation was much better some years ago during
sun spot minima but it is very much wrong to say that
there is no propagation at all to Europe.

/ Jim SM2EKM

Den 2023-10-31 kl. 16:03, skrev uy0zg via Topband:



In 2013, conditions were normal.
Let's look at the log:
https://clublog.org/charts/?c=W8A
From normal Europe (zones 14, 15, 20) there are only two

Finns

in the

magazine.
There are no conditions today.
Feed the crooks from zone 16?
For what ?
There is enough injustice as it is.
---Nick, UY0ZGhttp://www.topband.in.ua [1] [1]
uy0zg via Topband писал 2023-10-31 16:28:

Hi


Conditions for Europe are completely absent.


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Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

2023-11-01 Thread uy0zg via Topband

Dear Steve. When was the last time you were on the air on 160?

After all, this is the basis of our life. Or are you busy only with new

countries??

You are not even in the VE6WZ log ( щт 160 ):


https://clublog.org/logsearch/VE6WZ


Is life passing you by? :-(



---
Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua

uy0zg via Topband писал 2023-11-01 07:14:

Steve HA0DU - there is no need to react so painfully to reality.


Do you think that if in a log of 70 QSOs only 2-3 are real, then this 
is normal?


This is not only not normal, it is a tragedy. Severe incurable disease.


However, I am not against the expedition. I wish you success Steve in
your new country. I have normal RX antennas and will also try to
listen (if there is CW).


---
Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua

HA0DU Steve писал 2023-10-31 23:51:

Greetings to All,

W8S took place in early October, when the common darkness with Europe
was much shorter (most probably none with Western Europe). Do ot
compare apples with oranges. E51D, 5W0LM, T2C, W8S, E6AM all worked
some EU, even if it was not their main target!

Nick, could you please STOP your negative comments!
I am sure most of Top Banders would like this operation to happen. I
am also sure George is a very good operator, and it is about time that
someone with the proper equipment and skills, puts KH8 on the map.

Yours truly
Steve HA0DU

uy0zg via Topband  ezt írta (időpont: 2023.
okt. 31., K, 22:09):


https://clublog.org/charts/?c=W8S#r

Zone 15 only one QSO - OH2XX

Zone 14 - two QSOs. CU2DX and someone else

Zone 20 – seven QSOs! World famous Greek web superman SV8BHN +
five more

greeks... I didn't look for who is the seventh.

-

Result - real 2-3 QSOs

from Europe

---
Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua

GEORGE WALLNER писал 2023-10-31 21:39:

How did W8S do in EU on 160?
TKS,

George,
AA7JV

On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 16:40:02 +0100 Jan Erik Holm via Topband

wrote:

Nick,

This is not true at all. As I wrote in a previous mail
I could copy the W8S exp on 160m for at least 45 minutes.
I know they had high noise level so that was the problem.
Sure propagation was much better some years ago during
sun spot minima but it is very much wrong to say that
there is no propagation at all to Europe.

/ Jim SM2EKM

Den 2023-10-31 kl. 16:03, skrev uy0zg via Topband:



In 2013, conditions were normal.
Let's look at the log:
https://clublog.org/charts/?c=W8A
From normal Europe (zones 14, 15, 20) there are only two Finns

in the

magazine.
There are no conditions today.
Feed the crooks from zone 16?
For what ?
There is enough injustice as it is.
---Nick, UY0ZGhttp://www.topband.in.ua [1]
uy0zg via Topband писал 2023-10-31 16:28:

Hi


Conditions for Europe are completely absent.


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Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

2023-10-31 Thread uy0zg via Topband

Steve HA0DU - there is no need to react so painfully to reality.


Do you think that if in a log of 70 QSOs only 2-3 are real, then this is 
normal?


This is not only not normal, it is a tragedy. Severe incurable disease.


However, I am not against the expedition. I wish you success Steve in 
your new country. I have normal RX antennas and will also try to listen 
(if there is CW).



---
Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua

HA0DU Steve писал 2023-10-31 23:51:

Greetings to All,

W8S took place in early October, when the common darkness with Europe
was much shorter (most probably none with Western Europe). Do ot
compare apples with oranges. E51D, 5W0LM, T2C, W8S, E6AM all worked
some EU, even if it was not their main target!

Nick, could you please STOP your negative comments!
I am sure most of Top Banders would like this operation to happen. I
am also sure George is a very good operator, and it is about time that
someone with the proper equipment and skills, puts KH8 on the map.

Yours truly
Steve HA0DU

uy0zg via Topband  ezt írta (időpont: 2023.
okt. 31., K, 22:09):


https://clublog.org/charts/?c=W8S#r

Zone 15 only one QSO - OH2XX

Zone 14 - two QSOs. CU2DX and someone else

Zone 20 – seven QSOs! World famous Greek web superman SV8BHN +
five more

greeks... I didn't look for who is the seventh.

-

Result - real 2-3 QSOs

from Europe

---
Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua

GEORGE WALLNER писал 2023-10-31 21:39:

How did W8S do in EU on 160?
TKS,

George,
AA7JV

On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 16:40:02 +0100 Jan Erik Holm via Topband

wrote:

Nick,

This is not true at all. As I wrote in a previous mail
I could copy the W8S exp on 160m for at least 45 minutes.
I know they had high noise level so that was the problem.
Sure propagation was much better some years ago during
sun spot minima but it is very much wrong to say that
there is no propagation at all to Europe.

/ Jim SM2EKM

Den 2023-10-31 kl. 16:03, skrev uy0zg via Topband:



In 2013, conditions were normal.
Let's look at the log:
https://clublog.org/charts/?c=W8A
From normal Europe (zones 14, 15, 20) there are only two Finns

in the

magazine.
There are no conditions today.
Feed the crooks from zone 16?
For what ?
There is enough injustice as it is.
---Nick, UY0ZGhttp://www.topband.in.ua [1]
uy0zg via Topband писал 2023-10-31 16:28:

Hi


Conditions for Europe are completely absent.


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Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

2023-10-31 Thread uy0zg via Topband



https://clublog.org/charts/?c=W8S#r

Zone 15 only one QSO - OH2XX

Zone 14 - two QSOs. CU2DX and someone else

Zone 20 – seven QSOs! World famous Greek web superman SV8BHN + five more

greeks... I didn't look for who is the seventh.

-

Result - real 2-3 QSOs

from Europe




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GEORGE WALLNER писал 2023-10-31 21:39:

How did W8S do in EU on 160?
TKS,

George,
AA7JV

On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 16:40:02 +0100 Jan Erik Holm via Topband  wrote:

Nick,

This is not true at all. As I wrote in a previous mail
I could copy the W8S exp on 160m for at least 45 minutes.
I know they had high noise level so that was the problem.
Sure propagation was much better some years ago during
sun spot minima but it is very much wrong to say that
there is no propagation at all to Europe.

/ Jim SM2EKM

Den 2023-10-31 kl. 16:03, skrev uy0zg via Topband:



In 2013, conditions were normal.
Let's look at the log:
https://clublog.org/charts/?c=W8A
From normal Europe (zones 14, 15, 20) there are only two Finns in the 
magazine.

There are no conditions today.
Feed the crooks from zone 16?
For what ?
There is enough injustice as it is.
---Nick, UY0ZGhttp://www.topband.in.ua
uy0zg via Topband писал 2023-10-31 16:28:

Hi


Conditions for Europe are completely absent.


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Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

2023-10-31 Thread GEORGE WALLNER

Hi JC,
Thanks for the info on propagation. I am sure you are right, but we will be 
on a north facing beach, with not much chance for LP to anywhere.


EU and NA East Coast will be very challenging, but that is why we do 160.
I will be testing a new vertical antenna for 160 that meets USFWS 
requirement for a maximum height of 45 feet (13.7 m) and no top loading 
wires! I am fairly confident that it will work (with salt-water ground) but 
if necessary, I will extend the antenna to 65 feet and add top loading 
wires. It may be that we will be a bit weaker in the first few days.


73,
George


On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 15:51:19 -0400  wrote:

Hi George

During solar maximum the 160m propagation  is different, sometimes a long
path surprise us, but every 28 days there are a couple of good nights with
good propagation. We just never know, the best QSO of your life time could
be any night on 160m, on any given month or any given year.

73;'s
JC
N4IS


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Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

2023-10-31 Thread GEORGE WALLNER

Jose,
Will get something going, either from Ofu Island (part of the Manua group) 
or from the main island of American Samoa (Tutuila Island).


The problem for any low band operation from the main island of American 
Samoa is geography. Only the south side of the the island is easily 
accessible, with very steep mountains to the north blocking the NA and EU 
directions. There are a couple of mountain tops that recent DXpeds used, but 
these places have no room for large antennas and are very noisy with a lot 
of MW, TV, FM, cell and other sites. I don't think anybody ever operated 
from the Manua Islands, as they are pretty remote, but they have much better 
locations for the low bands. (I have to go there to do survey for a dive 
operation.)
On Ofu Island we may be able to set up on the beach on the north shore, 
which is open enough to the north to give us a chance to work EU on 160 
meters. 80 should be easier. I know that conditions are poor but we got 
power and will use the salt-water for ground. Noise should not be a problem. 
Weather may be, however.
As a fallback, I have also scouted out a beach on the north shore of the 
main island (Tutuila) and got permission form the land-owner, but that 
location is less open to the NE and the southern part of EU. If we have to 
set up there, that would be towards the end of November.

I will post when we know for sure that we can set up on Ofu.
Fingers crossed!
73,
George,
AA7JV




On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 10:09:39 + zemurt...@mail.telepac.pt wrote:



Hi George,

Here KH8 is a most-wanted in both 160m and 80m... Hi!


Can you try both for us?


We have chances between 05:15 utc and 07:15utc (your sunset, my sunrise).


Let's hope you can try it!


73  José  CT1EEB




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De: GEORGE WALLNER 

Assunto: Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

Para: Topband Reflector 




Hello TobBanders,

I am in American Samoa (KH8) and will be in the Manua Islands, AH54 (OC-77), 
later this week. I may have a chance to set up a 160 m station and operate for 
a few days. How much wanted is KH8 on TB? ClubLog indicates that it is quite 
rare at #30 on 160 m, but I find that hard to believe for a place recently 
activated by a number of groups.



TKS,

George,

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Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

2023-10-31 Thread n4is
Hi George

During solar maximum the 160m propagation  is different, sometimes a long
path surprise us, but every 28 days there are a couple of good nights with
good propagation. We just never know, the best QSO of your life time could
be any night on 160m, on any given month or any given year.

73;'s
JC
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Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

2023-10-31 Thread GEORGE WALLNER

How did W8S do in EU on 160?
TKS,

George,
AA7JV

On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 16:40:02 +0100 Jan Erik Holm via Topband  wrote:

Nick,

This is not true at all. As I wrote in a previous mail
I could copy the W8S exp on 160m for at least 45 minutes.
I know they had high noise level so that was the problem.
Sure propagation was much better some years ago during
sun spot minima but it is very much wrong to say that
there is no propagation at all to Europe.

/ Jim SM2EKM

Den 2023-10-31 kl. 16:03, skrev uy0zg via Topband:



In 2013, conditions were normal.
Let's look at the log:
https://clublog.org/charts/?c=W8A
From normal Europe (zones 14, 15, 20) there are only two Finns in the magazine.
There are no conditions today.
Feed the crooks from zone 16?
For what ?
There is enough injustice as it is.
---Nick, UY0ZGhttp://www.topband.in.ua
uy0zg via Topband писал 2023-10-31 16:28:

Hi


Conditions for Europe are completely absent.


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Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

2023-10-31 Thread GEORGE WALLNER

Conditions or opportunities?
George

AA7JV

On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 16:28:12 +0200 uy0zg via Topband  wrote:

Hi


Conditions for Europe are completely absent.


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Przemysław Gołembowski писал 2023-10-31 15:11:


Hi George,
80 & 160m are very intresting in EU.
Mek SP7VC
https://www.facebook.com/sp7vc/https://www.facebook.com/SP7VC-Radio-Expeditions-1490541124357044https://www.facebook.com/groups/566363128142032http://sp7vc.pl/
-Original Message-From: Topband 
[mailto:topband-bounces+sp7vc=wp...@contesting.com] On BehalfOf GEORGE 
WALLNERSent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 9:53 AMTo: Topband ReflectorSubject: Re: 
Topband: KH8 Demand on TB
Hello TobBanders,I am in American Samoa (KH8) and will be in the Manua Islands, 
AH54 (OC-77),
later this week. I may have a chance to set up a 160 m station and operatefor a 
few days. How much wanted is KH8 on TB? ClubLog indicates that it isquite rare 
at #30 on 160 m, but I find that hard to believe for a placerecently activated 
by a number of groups.
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Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

2023-10-31 Thread Wes

Clive,

Point taken with a couple of buts.

1)  Optimum time for me in AZ is my sunrise, which today is 13:40Z.  My previous 
QSOs were at 13:25 and 13:30Z.  At this time most of EU, NA and SA are in 
daylight, minimizing QRN and QRM.


Your best opportunities are ~16:30Z; broad daylight for me and ~06:00Z, where 
all of NA and SA are dark, maximizing my QRN and QRM.


2)  I would imagine that George, or any other DXpedition, wants to make contacts 
and not call CQ
endlessly without answers, because the potential callers don't need a QSO.  I 
would only call in that circumstance.


Regards, Wes  N7WS


On 10/31/2023 6:32 AM, Clive GM3POI wrote:

Wes I would add that if you have worked it before and its confirmed, then give 
those that do not have it a chance. After all it’s a local for the West coast.  
 73 Clive GM3POI

-Original Message-
From: Topband  On Behalf Of Wes
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 1:28 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

I worked W1AW/KH8  twice (5 min apart---must have been insurance) almost exactly
9 years ago. Nothing before or after.

Wes  N7WS

On 10/31/2023 1:53 AM, GEORGE WALLNER wrote:

Hello TobBanders,
I am in American Samoa (KH8) and will be in the Manua Islands, AH54
(OC-77), later this week. I may have a chance to set up a 160 m
station and operate for a few days. How much wanted is KH8 on TB?
ClubLog indicates that it is quite rare at #30 on 160 m, but I find
that hard to believe for a place recently activated by a number of groups.


TKS,
George,
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Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

2023-10-31 Thread uy0zg via Topband

Jim

Make an analysis of all recent Oceania logs:


https://clublog.org/expeditions.php

I won’t argue - several European stations with super reception have a 
small chance...


But mostly those who use 10-20 kilowatts + WEBSDR will have “contacts”.

---
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http://www.topband.in.ua

Jan Erik Holm via Topband писал 2023-10-31 17:40:

Nick,

This is not true at all. As I wrote in a previous mail
I could copy the W8S exp on 160m for at least 45 minutes.
I know they had high noise level so that was the problem.
Sure propagation was much better some years ago during
sun spot minima but it is very much wrong to say that
there is no propagation at all to Europe.

/ Jim SM2EKM

Den 2023-10-31 kl. 16:03, skrev uy0zg via Topband:



In 2013, conditions were normal.

Let's look at the log:

https://clublog.org/charts/?c=W8A

 From normal Europe (zones 14, 15, 20) there are only two Finns in the 
magazine.


There are no conditions today.

Feed the crooks from zone 16?

For what ?

There is enough injustice as it is.






---
Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua

uy0zg via Topband писал 2023-10-31 16:28:

Hi


Conditions for Europe are completely absent.


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Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

2023-10-31 Thread Jan Erik Holm via Topband

Nick,

This is not true at all. As I wrote in a previous mail
I could copy the W8S exp on 160m for at least 45 minutes.
I know they had high noise level so that was the problem.
Sure propagation was much better some years ago during
sun spot minima but it is very much wrong to say that
there is no propagation at all to Europe.

/ Jim SM2EKM

Den 2023-10-31 kl. 16:03, skrev uy0zg via Topband:



In 2013, conditions were normal.

Let's look at the log:

https://clublog.org/charts/?c=W8A

 From normal Europe (zones 14, 15, 20) there are only two Finns in the 
magazine.


There are no conditions today.

Feed the crooks from zone 16?

For what ?

There is enough injustice as it is.






---
Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua

uy0zg via Topband писал 2023-10-31 16:28:

Hi


Conditions for Europe are completely absent.


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Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

2023-10-31 Thread uy0zg via Topband



In 2013, conditions were normal.

Let's look at the log:

https://clublog.org/charts/?c=W8A

From normal Europe (zones 14, 15, 20) there are only two Finns in the 
magazine.


There are no conditions today.

Feed the crooks from zone 16?

For what ?

There is enough injustice as it is.






---
Nick, UY0ZG
http://www.topband.in.ua

uy0zg via Topband писал 2023-10-31 16:28:

Hi


Conditions for Europe are completely absent.


---
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http://www.topband.in.ua

Przemysław Gołembowski писал 2023-10-31 15:11:

Hi George,

80 & 160m are very intresting in EU.


Mek SP7VC

https://www.facebook.com/sp7vc/
https://www.facebook.com/SP7VC-Radio-Expeditions-1490541124357044
https://www.facebook.com/groups/566363128142032
http://sp7vc.pl/




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From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces+sp7vc=wp...@contesting.com] On 
Behalf

Of GEORGE WALLNER
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 9:53 AM
To: Topband Reflector
Subject: Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

Hello TobBanders,
I am in American Samoa (KH8) and will be in the Manua Islands, AH54 
(OC-77),


later this week. I may have a chance to set up a 160 m station and 
operate
for a few days. How much wanted is KH8 on TB? ClubLog indicates that 
it is
quite rare at #30 on 160 m, but I find that hard to believe for a 
place

recently activated by a number of groups.


TKS,
George,
AA7JV


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Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

2023-10-31 Thread uy0zg via Topband

Hi


Conditions for Europe are completely absent.


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http://www.topband.in.ua

Przemysław Gołembowski писал 2023-10-31 15:11:

Hi George,

80 & 160m are very intresting in EU.


Mek SP7VC

https://www.facebook.com/sp7vc/
https://www.facebook.com/SP7VC-Radio-Expeditions-1490541124357044
https://www.facebook.com/groups/566363128142032
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From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces+sp7vc=wp...@contesting.com] On 
Behalf

Of GEORGE WALLNER
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 9:53 AM
To: Topband Reflector
Subject: Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

Hello TobBanders,
I am in American Samoa (KH8) and will be in the Manua Islands, AH54 
(OC-77),


later this week. I may have a chance to set up a 160 m station and 
operate
for a few days. How much wanted is KH8 on TB? ClubLog indicates that it 
is

quite rare at #30 on 160 m, but I find that hard to believe for a place
recently activated by a number of groups.


TKS,
George,
AA7JV


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Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

2023-10-31 Thread Clive GM3POI
Wes I would add that if you have worked it before and its confirmed, then give 
those that do not have it a chance. After all it’s a local for the West coast.  
 73 Clive GM3POI

-Original Message-
From: Topband  On Behalf Of Wes
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 1:28 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

I worked W1AW/KH8  twice (5 min apart---must have been insurance) almost exactly
9 years ago. Nothing before or after.

Wes  N7WS

On 10/31/2023 1:53 AM, GEORGE WALLNER wrote:
> Hello TobBanders,
> I am in American Samoa (KH8) and will be in the Manua Islands, AH54 
> (OC-77), later this week. I may have a chance to set up a 160 m 
> station and operate for a few days. How much wanted is KH8 on TB? 
> ClubLog indicates that it is quite rare at #30 on 160 m, but I find 
> that hard to believe for a place recently activated by a number of groups.
>
>
> TKS,
> George,
> AA7JV
>
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Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

2023-10-31 Thread Wes
I worked W1AW/KH8  twice (5 min apart---must have been insurance) almost exactly 
9 years ago. Nothing before or after.


Wes  N7WS

On 10/31/2023 1:53 AM, GEORGE WALLNER wrote:

Hello TobBanders,
I am in American Samoa (KH8) and will be in the Manua Islands, AH54 (OC-77), 
later this week. I may have a chance to set up a 160 m station and operate for 
a few days. How much wanted is KH8 on TB? ClubLog indicates that it is quite 
rare at #30 on 160 m, but I find that hard to believe for a place recently 
activated by a number of groups.



TKS,
George,
AA7JV



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Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

2023-10-31 Thread Przemysław Gołembowski
Hi George,

80 & 160m are very intresting in EU.


Mek SP7VC

https://www.facebook.com/sp7vc/
https://www.facebook.com/SP7VC-Radio-Expeditions-1490541124357044
https://www.facebook.com/groups/566363128142032
http://sp7vc.pl/




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From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces+sp7vc=wp...@contesting.com] On Behalf
Of GEORGE WALLNER
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 9:53 AM
To: Topband Reflector
Subject: Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

Hello TobBanders,
I am in American Samoa (KH8) and will be in the Manua Islands, AH54 (OC-77),

later this week. I may have a chance to set up a 160 m station and operate 
for a few days. How much wanted is KH8 on TB? ClubLog indicates that it is 
quite rare at #30 on 160 m, but I find that hard to believe for a place 
recently activated by a number of groups.


TKS,
George,
AA7JV


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Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

2023-10-31 Thread Jan Erik Holm via Topband

KH8 is very much needed on 160. Pacific is always very
difficult from way north in Europe.

Even if it recently has been activated it hasn´t been possible
to work it. Forexample the W8S exp (I know not KH8) was
calling them for 45 minutes but since they had rotten
receive due to local noise it was not possible.

/ Jim SM2EKM

Den 2023-10-31 kl. 09:53, skrev GEORGE WALLNER:

Hello TobBanders,
I am in American Samoa (KH8) and will be in the Manua Islands, AH54 
(OC-77), later this week. I may have a chance to set up a 160 m station 
and operate for a few days. How much wanted is KH8 on TB? ClubLog 
indicates that it is quite rare at #30 on 160 m, but I find that hard to 
believe for a place recently activated by a number of groups.



TKS,
George,
AA7JV

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Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

2023-10-31 Thread Thomas Hoyer via Topband
 Hi George, 
I'm always looking for new ones on 160. Currently sitting at 102. 
TomW3TA
On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 04:54:22 AM EDT, GEORGE WALLNER 
 wrote:  
 
 Hello TobBanders,
I am in American Samoa (KH8) and will be in the Manua Islands, AH54 (OC-77), 
later this week. I may have a chance to set up a 160 m station and operate 
for a few days. How much wanted is KH8 on TB? ClubLog indicates that it is 
quite rare at #30 on 160 m, but I find that hard to believe for a place 
recently activated by a number of groups.


TKS,
George,
AA7JV


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Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

2023-10-31 Thread ws6x.ars
Hi George,
When it comes to 160, I am VERY small potatoes. I have worked KH8 twice on
topband:
November 2013 - W8A for a new one on 160. (I was still in W6 land.)
November 2014 - W1AW/KH8. (This was from VA, FM08.)
GL,
Jim - WS6X  

-Original Message-
From: Topband  On Behalf
Of GEORGE WALLNER
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 4:53 AM
To: Topband Reflector 
Subject: Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

Hello TobBanders,
I am in American Samoa (KH8) and will be in the Manua Islands, AH54 (OC-77),
later this week. I may have a chance to set up a 160 m station and operate
for a few days. How much wanted is KH8 on TB? ClubLog indicates that it is
quite rare at #30 on 160 m, but I find that hard to believe for a place
recently activated by a number of groups.


TKS,
George,
AA7JV


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Re: Topband: KH8 Demand on TB

2023-10-31 Thread GEORGE WALLNER

Hello TobBanders,
I am in American Samoa (KH8) and will be in the Manua Islands, AH54 (OC-77), 
later this week. I may have a chance to set up a 160 m station and operate 
for a few days. How much wanted is KH8 on TB? ClubLog indicates that it is 
quite rare at #30 on 160 m, but I find that hard to believe for a place 
recently activated by a number of groups.



TKS,
George,
AA7JV


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