Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas

2015-01-08 Thread JC
An array of loops is two loops for two directions. Hi guys The simple solution that is working very well since 2009 is the HWF. Why not two horizontal loaded loops end-fire. Two identical horizontal loops see the ground wave signal at the same way Va=Vb and because the 180 degree out of

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas

2015-01-08 Thread JC
Hi Guys I uploaded the video on YouTube on this link, DropBox is not working. http://youtu.be/dNBekvzlxgM Hi guys The simple solution that is working very well since 2009 is the HWF. Why not two horizontal loaded loops end-fire. Two identical horizontal loops see the ground wave signal

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas

2015-01-08 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 1/8/2015 5:36 AM, JC wrote: An array of loops is two loops for two directions. Hi guys The simple solution that is working very well since 2009 is the HWF. Why not two horizontal loaded loops end-fire. Two identical horizontal loops see the ground wave signal at the same way Va=Vb and

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas

2015-01-08 Thread JC
I am going to try to get a horizontal loop aimed at 70 degrees up Hi Rick It is not recommended to tilt and elevate the loop. There is two reasons it improve the signal to noise ratio, First is the attenuation of the vertical component at the same direction you are receiving the DX signal,

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas

2015-01-08 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 1/8/2015 12:12 PM, JC wrote: I am going to try to get a horizontal loop aimed at 70 degrees up Hi Rick It is not recommended to tilt and elevate the loop. There is two reasons it Clarification: 70 degrees refers to the AZIMUTH that the loop will be aimed for. It will still be in a

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas

2015-01-07 Thread Lloyd Berg - N9LB
Thanks for the input. Yes, utilities are underground, located by the road - north side of property. This is adjacent to the proposed RX receiving area. I can detect no noise coming from these underground lines. South side of the property (adjacent to my backyard transmit towers) is idle farm

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas

2015-01-07 Thread Tom W8JI
1. I can see the case for an array of loops. However, wouldn't it be less time-consuming --not to mention less expensive-- to just get an additional MFJ-1026 to effectively null the second noise source? Null out one noise in the first 1026, and then null out the second noise source in the

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas

2015-01-07 Thread Tom W8JI
The issue with just combining noise antennas is, to phase antennas, there have to be at least two phase shift and at least two amplitude-sensitive paths involved. At least one path through air, and at least path one through the wired connections. Since you want to null two sources, you have

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas

2015-01-07 Thread Mike Waters
A couple of thoughts here, good or bad: 1. I can see the case for an array of loops. However, wouldn't it be less time-consuming --not to mention less expensive-- to just get an additional MFJ-1026 to effectively null the second noise source? Null out one noise in the first 1026, and then null

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas

2015-01-06 Thread Herbert Schoenbohm
I have a strong source of 160 meter IX from another ham about a mile away at a bearing 330 degrees. The key clix and pumping of the noise floor make weak signal reception a real challenge at times. By using my 40 degree Beverage and a 3Khz roofing filter, along with turning the pre-amps off

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas

2015-01-06 Thread Tom W8JI
Finding a single RX antenna system that nulls the neighbor noise sources at 90 and 270 degrees is proving to be a challenge. If the noise sources are really at 90 and 270, and you have 30 feet or more for spacing at right angles to that, it should be fairly simple. Use a 180 degree

Re: Topband: Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice - an interesting combination of ideas

2015-01-06 Thread Lloyd Berg N9LB
I have received many suggestions and ideas on this subject. Finding a single RX antenna system that nulls the neighbor noise sources at 90 and 270 degrees is proving to be a challenge. Greg has offered an interesting idea that would integrate noise canceling/nulling technology with a