Garry,
In the good old days when I was learning the art of ham radio from Don Miller's
DX and contest operations and my Dad UB5WF, I've got an idea of the ham spirit
that makes all of us equal under the Sun.
This is the corner stone of our hobby - the equality, no matter how much one's
paid
The point that Garry is making, he did it very well, is that EU as a group
should contribute more than what they are presently doing. And he is right.
Doug
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Garry,
In the good old days when I was learning the art of ham radio from Don
Miller's DX and contest
7:44 AM
To: Doug Renwick
Cc: Victor Goncharsky; Garry Shapiro; topBand List
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers DX Expedition finances
I turn on the news every day and hear about EU economic woes. What's wrong with
the Marshall Plan for DX? Just as NA (not just EU) benefited economically
Tim those are kind thoughts.
But let me ask 'how much do you contribute in $. As those who watch our
governments see it is easy for them to give away other people's money.
EU economic woes are self inflicted! How many times does EU need to be
bailed out? Forever?
I am not American but I
I turn on the news every day and hear about EU economic woes. What's wrong
with the Marshall Plan for DX? Just as NA (not just EU) benefited
economically from the real Marshall plan (I explain it to my kids using
their language as a kickstarter for EU-NA trade), NA guys benefit every
time an
are usually everyday. It certainly has an effect on
where the QSOs are made. 73, Larry W6NWS -Original Message- From:
Doug Renwick Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 8:36 AM To: 'Victor
Goncharsky' ; ga...@ni6t.com ; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re:
Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers DX Expedition
...@ni6t.com ; topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers DX Expedition finances
The point that Garry is making, he did it very well, is that EU as a group
should contribute more than what they are presently doing. And he is right.
Doug
-Original Message-
Garry
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From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Sent: Friday, 06 February, 2015 04:28
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers
Someone did a more extensive analysis of several DXpeditions
-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Sent: Friday, 06 February, 2015 04:28
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers
Someone did a more extensive analysis of several DXpeditions maybe 2 or 3
years ago
, February 06, 2015 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers DX Expedition finances
It appears to be the case that NA finances the big trips and EU gets the
Q's. That needs to be ironed out.
Garry
while EU hams are very demanding, they don't do much to contribute to the
cost
NA puts up
the largest percentage of the funds but doesn't get that percentage in
Q's. I forget which group it was posted in.
73, Larry W6NWS
-Original Message- From: Garry Shapiro
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 8:43 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn
On 2015-02-05 08:30, Jim Brown wrote:
On Wed,2/4/2015 10:51 PM, Jan Erik Holm wrote:
Sorry if I´m a PITA right now but why even bother to
have this debate about K1N on 160, it´s not even DX
to NA, like a local station almost.
That depends on where in NA you are -- it's pretty big. I'm 5 miles
-
From: Garry Shapiro
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 8:43 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers
It appears to be the case that NA finances the big trips and EU gets the
Q's. That needs to be ironed out.
Garry
On 2/5/2015 11:32 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
On Thu
Lou,
is that what you have said, an argument ?
Let us wait a week, and then we will judge...
73's Nermin S58DX
- Original Message -
From: KE1F Lou lmecs...@cfl.rr.com
To: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers
.
N7RT
- Original Message - From: Richard (Rick) Karlquist
rich...@karlquist.com
To: ws6x@gmail.com; topband@contesting.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers
Why not call around 0700Z after the
band closes to EU and before
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers
On Thu,2/5/2015 8:29 AM, Fortra wrote:
jeez those numbers are worrying.
So are the numbers for contributions to the cost of DX trips that have
gotten increasingly expensive. The only way to get on the island is via
a helicopter, and they have had to make
, February 05, 2015 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers
To us EP6T was European QSO Party.
GL and 73 Lou KE1F
On 2/5/2015 1:51 AM, Jan Erik Holm wrote:
Sorry if I´m a PITA right now but why even bother to
have this debate about K1N on 160, it´s not even DX
to NA, like a local
for...@siol.net wrote:
Lou,
is that what you have said, an argument ?
Let us wait a week, and then we will judge...
73's Nermin S58DX
- Original Message -
From: KE1F Lou lmecs...@cfl.rr.com
To: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Out
First of all, they haven't reported having their beverages installed.
The original plan submitted for approval was denied because the wires could
impact the birds in the island, final and approved plan was based on vertical
only for low bands and fiberglass protected wires SteepIR.
I am
- From: KE1F Lou lmecs...@cfl.rr.com
To: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers
Nermin,
Lets wait for the final result from K1N.
We do have EP6T data:
68,045 QSO
69.6% Europe
9.8% North America
17.6% Asia.
I am
It appears to be the case that NA finances the big trips and EU gets the
Q's. That needs to be ironed out.
Garry
On 2/5/2015 11:32 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
On Thu,2/5/2015 8:29 AM, Fortra wrote:
jeez those numbers are worrying.
So are the numbers for contributions to the cost of DX trips that
calls. Not
many trying to get them. This was 1035Z.
N7RT
- Original Message - From: Richard (Rick) Karlquist
rich...@karlquist.com
To: ws6x@gmail.com; topband@contesting.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers
Why not call around 0700Z
The irony in all this is compare the bird protection on Navassa to wind
farms stateside which are allowed to kill thousands of birds including your
golden eagle.
You just can't make this stupidity up.
Doug
I wasn't born in Saskatchewan, but I got here as soon as I could.
-Original
Very true Frank.
73 Price W0RI
On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 6:28 PM, donov...@starpower.net
donov...@starpower.net wrote:
Hi guys,
We've beat up KK6ZM enough for his honest mistake, we all make
mistakes. By now I'm sure Patrick has heard from his well known
father and his uncles too
On Tue,2/3/2015 4:14 PM, Glenn Wyant wrote:
easy with 100 watts ( got him b4 the amp warmed up )
It should be -- you're a LOT closer than W6. :) Bragging rights go to
N6ZFO -- he worked them from 150 miles N of San Francisco with 150W.
73, Jim K9YC
_
Topband Reflector
One of the best things to happen to me is my K3 and my logging
program, the pair are among the worst as well. The K3 remembers the
settings I was at when I switch bands, I count on this, my logging
program is the Loki in this.
If I click on a spot I see in my logging program look at the
If the KK6ZM story is fact, then he did what I would have done based on the
operator at K1N's actions.
Doug
I wasn't born in Saskatchewan, but I got here as soon as I could.
-Original Message-
This is not a defense of KK6ZM -- I don't even know the guy -- but I can
assure you, he was
Perhaps the REAL problem began with the guys in the chat room urging him on
when common sense would have dictated that he refrain from transmitting
until K1N cleared the field for NA callers. I had my gut full of chat rooms
when a topband friend was flamed morning after morning on the
-Original Message-
It was interesting to me this morning to listen to the K1N operation attempt
to put into their log some JA contacts.
SNIP
For the most part, NA stations stood by and allowed the process to go
forward. However, one station in particular, even after being asked by K1N
On 2015-02-03, at 2:11 PM, Jim - WS6X wrote:
Say what you want to about KK6ZM. In my opinion, K1N shot himself in the
foot when he didn't follow his own in instructions.
Jim, WS6X
Hi Jim,
That has to be CARDINAL SIN #1 if you're a DX-peditioner, as it's YOU who calls
the shots, and
Why not call around 0700Z after the
band closes to EU and before it opens
to JA? A bunch of us in CA got them
in the log last night fairly easily.
Rick N6RK
_
Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
; topband@contesting.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers
Why not call around 0700Z after the
band closes to EU and before it opens
to JA? A bunch of us in CA got them
in the log last night fairly easily.
Rick N6RK
_
Topband
...@starpower.net
To: topband topband@contesting.com
Sent: Tue, Feb 3, 2015 9:23 pm
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers
Hi guys,
We've beat up KK6ZM enough for his honest mistake, we all make
mistakes. By now I'm sure Patrick has heard from his well known
father and his uncles too and there's
Hi guys,
We've beat up KK6ZM enough for his honest mistake, we all make
mistakes. By now I'm sure Patrick has heard from his well known
father and his uncles too and there's no chance he'll make that mistake
again.
Its time to move on...
73
Frank
W3LPL
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