Re: Topband: Reversible BOG?

2013-01-12 Thread Carl


- Original Message - 
From: Jim Miller j...@jtmiller.com

To: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: Topband: Reversible BOG?


As a follow up I wonder if rather than using windowline, whose 
transmission

line performance would be subject to variations in weather, it might be
better to use coax. The outside of the shield would always be the antenna
but the interior acting as the transmission line would not be subject to
weather variations.

Coax reversible BOG?

73

jim ab3cv


If you can, then raise the BOG a bit off the ground on low growth. I run 
mine 2-4 off the ground and thru the woods using military telephone line 
and the changing ground conditions dont appear to bother it much; 
directivity remains pronounced even when snow covered. Having poor ground 
conductivity to start with seems to help and the 2-3 ground rods (4' driven 
at angles here) plus 25-30' radials at both ends tends to stabilize things 
good enough anyway.


Carl
KM1H 


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Re: Topband: Reversible BOG?

2013-01-12 Thread Grant Saviers
The reversible single coax Beverage is described in ON4UN 's Low Band 
DXing at least editions 4  5.  I've built a couple elevated ones from 
ebay RG58 and they work fine.  I think RG6/RG59 would work as well with 
small changes to the transformer ratios.


Grant KZ1W


On 1/11/2013 9:17 PM, Jim Miller wrote:

As a follow up I wonder if rather than using windowline, whose transmission
line performance would be subject to variations in weather, it might be
better to use coax. The outside of the shield would always be the antenna
but the interior acting as the transmission line would not be subject to
weather variations.

Coax reversible BOG?

73

jim ab3cv
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Re: Topband: Reversible BOG?

2013-01-12 Thread Anthony Scandurra
Page 7-89 in the 5th edition of ON4UN's book.

On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Grant Saviers gran...@pacbell.net wrote:

 The reversible single coax Beverage is described in ON4UN 's Low Band
 DXing at least editions 4  5.  I've built a couple elevated ones from ebay
 RG58 and they work fine.  I think RG6/RG59 would work as well with small
 changes to the transformer ratios.

 Grant KZ1W


 On 1/11/2013 9:17 PM, Jim Miller wrote:

 As a follow up I wonder if rather than using windowline, whose
 transmission
 line performance would be subject to variations in weather, it might be
 better to use coax. The outside of the shield would always be the antenna
 but the interior acting as the transmission line would not be subject to
 weather variations.

 Coax reversible BOG?

 73

 jim ab3cv
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Topband: Reversible BOG?

2013-01-11 Thread Jim Miller
I'm putting in reversible Beverages to give me better reception on 80, 40
and 160m. I realize both of them are likely too short for great 160m
performance but it's the best I can do with my limited lot size.

One will be NW/SE and around 250ft long (maybe more pending neighbor
agreement) and elevated above deer height in the woods.

The other NE/SW will be partially in the woods at a similar elevation but
the remainder may need to be BOG for 100ft of it's 325 foot total.

I realize this isn't optimal but given my HOA CCR situation it is least
likely to get me noticed.

Alternatives aren't very appealing at this time.

Any insight as to how the NE/SW reversible BOG might perform relative to a
more standard implementation?

Thanks

Jim ab3cv
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Re: Topband: Reversible BOG?

2013-01-11 Thread Jim Miller
As a follow up I wonder if rather than using windowline, whose transmission
line performance would be subject to variations in weather, it might be
better to use coax. The outside of the shield would always be the antenna
but the interior acting as the transmission line would not be subject to
weather variations.

Coax reversible BOG?

73

jim ab3cv
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Topband Reflector