Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array

2015-11-10 Thread Jim Murray via Topband
CTU 2014 - Session 6 Part 1 - Low Band Receive Antenna Discussion Q - W3LPL |   | |   | |   |   |   |   |   | | CTU 2014 - Session 6 Part 1 - Low Band Receive Antenna... | | | | View on www.youtube.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | |   | hi all annyone ever did test this setup?How does it perform

Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array

2015-11-10 Thread Ron Feutz
K9CT used one this year. He also has an 8 circle (not sure which one). KK9K -Original Message- From: Gary K9GS Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:54 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array Does anyone know if there is another source available

Re: Topband: shared apex loop array

2015-11-10 Thread Anthony Scandurra
Here's the correct URL: http://www.contestuniversity.com/attachments/W3LPL_Receiving_Antennas_2014.pptx 73, Tony K4QE On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Jim Murray via Topband < topband@contesting.com> wrote: > Sri can't seem to get these links to work. This is listed on Google then > follow

Re: Topband: shared apex loop array

2015-11-10 Thread Jim Murray via Topband
Sri can't seem to get these links to work.  This is listed on Google then follow receiving antennas, etc.  Last try- hopefully it works. W3LPL - Contest University www.contestuniversity.com/.../W3LPL_Receiving_Antennas_2014.pptx - - Receiving Antennas - or - What happened to the.

Re: Topband: shared apex loop array

2015-11-10 Thread Gary K9GS
Thank you Tony! On 11/10/2015 8:35 PM, Anthony Scandurra wrote: Here's the correct URL: http://www.contestuniversity.com/attachments/W3LPL_Receiving_Antennas_2014.pptx 73, Tony K4QE On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Jim Murray via Topband < topband@contesting.com> wrote: Sri can't seem to

Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array

2014-02-10 Thread Tom W8JI
I have used 4 bi-direction 760 foot Beverages for 5 years or so here in Michigan. I put up the AS SAL-30 a month ago and my experience with the has been very favorable. I can't do a direct A to B with the Beverages right now so I must reserve making any bold statements about the comparative

Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array

2014-02-10 Thread Tom W8JI
Is is a two element crossfire vertically polarized array made from loops. Personally, if I were going to build one, I would spread the loops apart. I would make the loop centers as far apart as possible, not to exceed 1/4 wavelength on the highest band. Let me expand a bit how it works.

Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array

2014-02-10 Thread bruce whitney
  From: Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com To: bruce whitney zuce...@yahoo.com; Carl Luetzelschwab carlluetzelsch...@gmail.com; topband@contesting.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 1:36 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array Is is a two element crossfire

Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array

2014-02-10 Thread Tom W8JI
Regardless, I am not sure if any sort of descriptive logical explanation will ever allow me to understand what is going on with this antenna but I am beginning to get comfortable with the modeling. The bigger question to me is; do you think the 4NEC2 model results faithfully represent what is

Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array

2014-02-10 Thread Andy Ikin
Bruce, I have considerable experience with loop arrays; whilst they are good performers in an electrically noisy environment, they suffer from poor directivity at higher angles. This can also be seen with EZNEC models by looking at the AZ Plot with an Elevation angle of say 40 degrees. The

Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array

2014-02-10 Thread James Wolf
-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Andy Ikin Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 4:12 PM To: bruce whitney; Topband Reflector Subject: Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array Bruce, I have considerable experience with loop arrays; whilst they are good performers in an electrically noisy environment

Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array

2014-02-10 Thread JC N4IS
Hi Jim The antenna geometry indicates that it should perform similar to a Waller Flag *under the same conditions*. The perform under same conditions is expected, however the WF RDF is between 11.5db to 12 db. How that compares with a 8.5db RDF antenna? I would say two antennas with the

Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array

2014-02-10 Thread Steve Flood
since the currents in the center vertical wires are out of phase, you should be able to eliminate three of those wires. Tie all the wires together at the top and at the bottom, and use just one wire from top to bottom. Jim - KR9U That is similar to an antenna I tried in 2002 from the hardcoredx

Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array

2014-02-09 Thread D Rodman MD
I recently put reviews about the SAL-20 and SAL-30 on eham.net if anyone is interested. Two on air demonstrations of the F/B are on YouTube. Please refer to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVi5xQIXnXU (160m) and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_S7JwfEpQ8 (80m). -- David J Rodman MD

Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array

2014-02-09 Thread donovanf
superior RDF performance. 73 Frank W3LPL - Original Message - From: D Rodman MD rod...@buffalo.edu To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2014 5:19:29 PM Subject: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array I recently put reviews about the SAL-20 and SAL-30 on eham.net

Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array

2014-02-09 Thread Carl
offer superior RDF performance. 73 Frank W3LPL - Original Message - From: D Rodman MD rod...@buffalo.edu To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2014 5:19:29 PM Subject: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array I recently put reviews about the SAL-20 and SAL-30 on eham.net

Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array

2014-02-09 Thread chacuff
I’m curious if it’s really any different than a two loop K9AY on one support. Cecil K5DL From: Carl Sent: ‎February‎ ‎9‎, ‎2014 ‎1‎:‎36‎ ‎PM To: donov...@starpower.net; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array Is the SAL-30 available piecemeal? I have plenty

Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array

2014-02-09 Thread W2PM
, February 9, 2014 5:19:29 PM Subject: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array I recently put reviews about the SAL-20 and SAL-30 on eham.net if anyone is interested. Two on air demonstrations of the F/B are on YouTube. Please refer to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVi5xQIXnXU (160m) and http

Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array

2014-02-09 Thread Russ
things. Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: donov...@starpower.net To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 1:13 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array See N3OC's review of the Shared Apex Loop Array in the February PVRC Newsletter, page 5 http

Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array

2014-02-08 Thread W7KW
Recently I came across an interesting advertisement for the Shared Apex Loop Array, SALA, and thought I would poll the Top Banders to see if they have used one and get your opinions before plunging into another project. Over the years I have built and tried the K9AY, Flag. Pennant, DHDL,

Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array

2014-02-08 Thread Carl Luetzelschwab
Terry W7KW, Yesterday I posted a message here about the Shared Apex Loop Array. N3OC's review of it appears in the February PVRC newsletter. My Product Review of it will appear in the April QST. My experience with it has been extremely favorable on 160m, 80m and 40m as I cannot put up multiple

Re: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array

2014-02-08 Thread bruce whitney
Luetzelschwab carlluetzelsch...@gmail.com To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 4:12 PM Subject: Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array Terry W7KW, Yesterday I posted a message here about the Shared Apex Loop Array. N3OC's review of it appears in the February PVRC newsletter

Topband: Shared Apex Loop Array

2012-11-03 Thread Anthony Scandurra K4QE
I did a search and haven't found any previous comments on this reflector about the Shared Apex Loop Array. Has anyone tried it yet? -- 73, Tony K4QE Elecraft K3 #6478 + P3 #2058 + KPA500 #844 + PR6 + K144XV ___ Topband reflector -