Re: Topband: Topband Strange Propagation

On Sun,1/17/2016 12:10 PM, Carl Braun wrote: Don't the new auto tune amps have the ability to retune with a single dit? No, but many amps and tuners can sense frequency and RECALL previous settings with a dit or a tap on the mic in SSB mode. BIG difference. :) BUT -- this should NEVER be

Re: Topband: Topband Strange Propagation

t; >> W1QJ >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Richard (Rick) Karlquist <rich...@karlquist.com> >> To: Gary <g...@ka1j.com>; topband <topband@contesting.com> >> Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2016 11:07 pm >> Subject: Re: T

Re: Topband: Topband Strange Propagation

Richard (Rick) Karlquist <rich...@karlquist.com> > To: Gary <g...@ka1j.com>; topband <topband@contesting.com> > Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2016 11:07 pm > Subject: Re: Topband: Topband Strange Propagation > > > > On 1/16/2016 12:10 AM, Gary Smith wrote: > > > Th

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the tubes. - Original Message - From: "Louis Parascondola via Topband" <topband@contesting.com> To: <n...@roadrunner.com>; <topband@contesting.com> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 7:24 AM Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation That was not nice. Lou W

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Sounds a lot like the RHR folks! A friend of mine at the Georgia State Public Service Training Center (right down my street) says this social trend, made pandemic through Internet, has even been assigned a name now. It is called Homogeneous Clustering. This is where groups of people

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I suspect most of us here, are more like the old school hams were on 160. When a needed DX or non-needed DX is on & I'm calling, I'll happily stand by and let the next guy get their shot. I do believe in the "Golden Rule" and on 160, expect most on here to feel the same way. I admit that

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That was not nice. Lou W1QJ -Original Message- From: Roger D Johnson <n...@roadrunner.com> To: topband <topband@contesting.com> Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2016 7:09 am Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation Sounds a lot like the RHR folks! > > > > A friend of m

Re: Topband: Topband Strange Propagation

t;topband@contesting.com> Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2016 1:44 am Subject: Topband: Topband Strange Propagation I don't want to start another "run" here but I was a bit disturbed last night after deciding to try for a new one, K5P. Guys all over the DX transmitting freq and one who must have

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nner.com>; <topband@contesting.com> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 7:24 AM Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation That was not nice. Lou W1QJ -Original Message- From: Roger D Johnson <n...@roadrunner.com> To: topband <topband@contesting.com> Sent: Sat, J

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- > From: Tom W8JI <w...@w8ji.com> > To: Louis Parascondola <gudguy...@aol.com>; n1rj <n...@roadrunner.com>; > topband <topband@contesting.com> > Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2016 8:37 am > Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation > > This reflector has gone do

Re: Topband: Topband Strange Propagation

On 1/16/2016 12:10 AM, Gary Smith wrote: There's an odd behavior that we've all heard & that's the "ditter", the person who on the DX frequency sends the occasional dit, not a string, just a dit & then some odd seconds later does it again. I wonder if they do it to bust the chops of someone

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lt;gudguy...@aol.com>; n1rj <n...@roadrunner.com>; topband <topband@contesting.com> Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2016 8:37 am Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation This reflector has gone down the toilet with personal BS that serves no purpose except to pick fights. After 20 years, I'm leav

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OX - Original Message - From: "John Frazier" <fr...@bellsouth.net> To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 2:22:53 PM Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation Well..many of us /have/ worked to change the rules to reflect the use of remote

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On Sat,1/16/2016 9:47 AM, n...@comcast.net wrote: How many of you know hams who routinely run more power than is allowed on Top Band in the United States? I know of only one, who admitted to me that he was running 2.5kW. Leaving aside the illegality of it, do you also view that as unethical?

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Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 10:23:11 AM Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation I would see this as analo g ou s to what happened in contesting. Originally, you could use 2 meter spotting nets to help "find" multipliers, no problem. Eventually, f olks in less

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esting.com Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation I have followed with some interest. Early posts had some merit but it soon turns into a free for all. I have had my own thoughts for many years but thought this was not the forum to express them since it serves little purpose. My feeling is the fo

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<gudguy...@aol.com>; n1rj <n...@roadrunner.com>; topband <topband@contesting.com> Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2016 8:37 am Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation This reflector has gone down the toilet with personal BS that serves no purpose except to pick fights. After 20 yea

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lt;topband@contesting.com> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 7:24 AM Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation That was not nice. Lou W1QJ -Original Message- From: Roger D Johnson <n...@roadrunner.com> To: topband <topband@contesting.com> Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2016 7:09 am S

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Absolutely correct Mike, and some of the other pills were much harder to swallow than this one. -Original Message- From: mstangelo <mstang...@comcast.net> To: Top Band Reflector <topband@contesting.com> Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2016 5:57 pm Subject: Re: Topband: strange propag

Re: Topband: strange propagation and other threads

Interesting topic(s) and I told myself I wouldn't comment. (but I will anyways, hi !) The one and only issue I have with RHR is when an IT9 station (or anyone outside the lower 48) is using a USA remote and not signing /W4, /W1, /W6 etc. No amount of arguing can explain how that is right.(or

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1 PM Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation and other threads Interesting topic(s) and I told myself I wouldn't comment. (but I will anyways, hi !) The one and only issue I have with RHR is when an IT9 station (or anyone outside the lower 48) is using a USA remote and not signing /W4,

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Jan 16, 2016 12:49 PM Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation Gentlemen. I wonder if Tree regrets beginning this discussion with his post the other day? I suspect he might. The discussion of ethics has been interesting to me. Most of the comments have been thoughtful and not angry. Those I h

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Let's all calm down. I believe this latest tirade started with RHR. I may not elect to use it but anyone else is entitled to use the service. We've survived Incentive Licensing, code free licenses, solid state radios and other changes. We will survive this change. We should be tolerant as

Re: Topband: Topband Strange Propagation

-Original Message- From: Richard (Rick) Karlquist <rich...@karlquist.com> To: Gary <g...@ka1j.com>; topband <topband@contesting.com> Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2016 11:07 pm Subject: Re: Topband: Topband Strange Propagation On 1/16/2016 12:10 AM, Gary Smith wrote: > Th

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others will feel the same. Hang in there. >> >> >> Lou W1QJ >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Tom W8JI <w...@w8ji.com> >> To: Louis Parascondola <gudguy...@aol.com>; n1rj <n...@roadrunner.com>; &

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I heard from a friend, who talked to his uncle who stated that he heard on a 20m net, that hams are allowed to disregard any FCC rule that they find inconvenient. 73, Roger On 1/15/2016 4:18 AM, Ed Sawyer wrote: Thankfully, this is not the case. The FCC rules are quite clear on this issue.

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Roger, I have forwarded this issue to the owner of RHR and waiting for his reply. Lou -Original Message- From: Roger D Johnson <n...@roadrunner.com> To: topband <topband@contesting.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2016 5:35 am Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation I heard f

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gt; Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2016 8:00 am Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation >I can't be 100% sure but I think this will all wash down to the fact that >stations are no longer licensed and the control operator is fully >responsible. And I do believe that is the case. RHR has lawyers

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Message- From: Barry N1EU <barry.n...@gmail.com> To: topBand List <topband@contesting.com> Sent: Thu, Jan 14, 2016 5:06 pm Subject: Re: Topband: Strange propagation This is a BIG issue to grapple with. It would make sense to me that a callsign transmitted over the air shoul

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:05 am Subject: RE: Topband: strange propagation It would be hard to believe that the control operator is outside the US, beyond the FCC jurisdiction, and no one in the US is responsible. If that is the case, its pretty scary in my opinion. 73 Ed N1UR From: Louis Parascondola [mailto

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Well said Herb! Raoul ZS1C From: Herbert Schoenbohm <he...@vitelcom.net> To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 3:14 AM Subject: Re: Topband: Strange propagation Jim,   Artificial insemination is advanced technology also but pray tell me that it is mo

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.@aol.com>; topband <topband@contesting.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2016 8:00 am Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation >I can't be 100% sure but I think this will all wash down to the fact that >stations are no longer licensed and the control operator is fully >responsible. And I do bel

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I think it means that you've been talking to someone in the Department of Agriculture. Vague claims do not prove a point. Dave Heil K8MN On 15-Jan-16 13:10, Louis Parascondola via Topband wrote: There you have it folks. And guess what, The US government is very aware of RHR and is very

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I can't be 100% sure but I think this will all wash down to the fact that stations are no longer licensed and the control operator is fully responsible. And I do believe that is the case. RHR has lawyers on retainer and I'm sure this has been legally looked at. I can get the ruling they go

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January 15, 2016 8:10 AM To: w...@sbcglobal.net; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation Larry, I posted it all an hour ago. -Original Message- From: Larry Burke <w...@sbcglobal.net> To: topband <topband@contesting.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 20

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located so he can write it on a QSL card for your credit. -Original Message- From: Barry N1EU <barry.n...@gmail.com> To: topBand List <topband@contesting.com> Sent: Thu, Jan 14, 2016 5:06 pm Subject: Re: Topband: Strange propagation This is a BIG issue to grapple wi

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> RHR has lawyers on retainer and I'm sure this has been legally looked at. I can get the ruling they go by. We'll be waiting with bated breath, Lou Parascondola. - Larry K5RK _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

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-Original Message- From: Herbert Schoenbohm Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 3:00 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Strange propagation Climbing Mt. Everest is something of vast personal acheivement but land on top with a helicopter and having your picture taken to prove

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] On Behalf Of Louis Parascondola via Topband Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 8:56 AM To: w...@sbcglobal.net; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation I'm sure qst did their homework on the issue first. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -Original Message- From: Larry Burke &l

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so what credit do >> you get? I suppose he needs to know where the station is located so he can >> write it on a QSL card for your credit. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Barry N1EU <barry.n...@gmail.com> >&

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Guys, seems to me this topic has been worked to death. Maybe it's time to give it a rest. Jim W8ZR _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband

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> Please sign your emails with your callsign (assuming you have one) He's looking at YOU, Lou ("Conversion King") Parascondola. > so I am getting this issue looked at by the owner to see what he says and > I will check on this with the RHR group You seem pretty tight with these

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om pointed out the station licenses were done away with. 73, Steve, WD8NPL -Original Message- From: Tom W8JI Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 8:00 AM To: Louis Parascondola ; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation I can't be 100% sure but I think this will all

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I would think a few fines issued by the FCC to the remote station holder, would shut these games down in a hurry. I wonder if the RHR station owners that are being leased out by individuals realize their liability in these circumstances. I think some people will be shocked with a certified

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Larry, I posted it all an hour ago. -Original Message- From: Larry Burke <w...@sbcglobal.net> To: topband <topband@contesting.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2016 9:03 am Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation > RHR has lawyers on retainer and I'm sure this has been legally l

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s Parascondola'; mailto:topband@contesting.com;>topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation The RHR lawyers consider a product review in QST by a non-ham as their legal review? How interesting. You said you can get the "ruling" that the RHR guys go by. The QST produ

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This issue is ripe for discussion now. I should not be relegated to an out of sight out of mind position. It bothers many and is OK with some. It speaks to the soul of amateur radio and everything it stands for. if we don't deal with it know maybe in a few years that ham shacks will only

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Correction should have read "non-lawyer". - Larry K5RK -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Larry Burke Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 8:23 AM To: 'Louis Parascondola'; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: strange p

Topband: strange propagation

Seems to me the final judge in all of this is the guy who stares back at you from the mirror every morning. There are a million ways to game the rules and outright cheat ... even in ham radio, where the rewards for a "win" are pretty abstract. If the guy gazing straight back at you is

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PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: strange propagation Seems to me the final judge in all of this is the guy who stares back at you from the mirror every morning. There are a million ways to game the rules and outright cheat ... even in ham radio, where the rewards for a &quo

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Our to quote Frederick Nietzsche..."When you stare into the abyss the abyss stares back at you." Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ On 1/15/2016 1:19 PM, lmlangenf...@tds.net wrote: Seems to me the final judge in all of this is the guy who stares back at you from the mirror every morning. There are a

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RHR has stated that they require operators to operate "ethically" on their network. Exactly how to they define that term? Is it considered ethical for a ham in, say, Huntington Beach CA to call -- via a commercial remote in New York -- a station at the United Nations on 6m when the only

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ts. 73, Kevin K3OX - Original Message - From: "Louis Parascondola via Topband" <topband@contesting.com> To: he...@vitelcom.net, topband@contesting.com Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 3:20:32 AM Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation As I said earlier, stations are

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On Fri,1/15/2016 6:12 AM, Roger D Johnson wrote: In that case the government should get off it's butt and bring the rules up to date. The FCC was stripped of budget in the name of small government and getting them off the backs of business more than 30 years ago, and things have only gotten

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f Of Kris Mraz > Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 7:19 PM > To: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Re: Topband: Strange propagation > > Which brings to mind another issue: 160m card checkers will disallow a card > if the DX QSO occurred in the middle of the day since the path wo

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> RHR is the safest, most regulated, use of a remote station. IP's are watched, people pay a membership, they have to log in, and they know if caught breaking any law they lose a deposit and are booted. Safest -- yep... none of that pesky high voltage in the user's shack to get tangled up in.

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t;topband@contesting.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2016 10:07 AM Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation Guys, seems to me this topic has been worked to death. Maybe it's time to give it a rest. Jim W8ZR _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband; target=&

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Windows 10 Od: Louis Parascondola via Topband Odesláno:pátek 15. ledna 2016 16:32 Komu: w...@sbcglobal.net; topband@contesting.com Předmět: Re: Topband: strange propagation Larry, I don't want to argue with you. It's all legal period. No I'm not a subscriber. I have my own station that suits me

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Herb, I don't know about you, but I'm waiting for flying cars. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -Original Message- From: Herbert Schoenbohm <herbert.schoenb...@gmail.com> To: topband <topband@contesting.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2016 10:27 AM Subject: Re: Topband: strange

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? Lou W1QJ in Connecticut. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -Original Message- From: Larry Burke <w...@sbcglobal.net> To: topband <topband@contesting.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2016 10:05 AM Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation So you're telling me that RHR and those R

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.73Raoul Zs1C, ex ZS1REC From: Herbert Schoenbohm <herbert.schoenb...@gmail.com> To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 5:25 PM Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation This issue is ripe for discussion now.  I should not be relegated to an out of sight out o

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Well..many of us /have/ worked to change the rules to reflect the use of remote operations. In FACT, the ARRL DX Advisory Committee recommended to the ARRL BOD that a distance limit be included in the rule. The BOD rejected that recommendation despite the FACT that the members of the BOD

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en RHR had something beyond "rules" in mind when they used the word. - Larry K5RK -Original Message- From: Tom W8JI [mailto:w...@w8ji.com] Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 11:38 AM To: Larry Burke; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation > RHR has s

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On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Tom W8JI wrote: > My belief is the real hobby for some is being unhappy with not being in > charge of everyone else. They don't want the problem fixed, because then > they would have nothing to get all stirred up about. > BINGO! A mere seven

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small lotwith a great ambition.Now that is more valuable to me than anything else.73Raoul Zs1C, ex ZS1REC From: Herbert Schoenbohm <herbert.schoenb...@gmail.com> To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 5:25 PM Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation

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tower site? Mike N2MS - Original Message - From: Herbert Schoenbohm <he...@vitelcom.net> To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 01:14:05 - (UTC) Subject: Re: Topband: Strange propagation Jim, Artificial insemination is advanced technology also but pray t

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sting.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2016 11:08 AM Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation Lou, I am ham for 50 years.I cant find, why they doing it.Definitly not for ham.I will tell You for wha.This is only bussines.They fell other aditional money to gain.Only sadness.Change hobby for few stupid di

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I recall working Stew when he was /mm Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -Original Message- From: mstangelo <mstang...@comcast.net> To: Herbert Schoenbohm <he...@vitelcom.net>; topband <topband@contesting.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2016 03:44 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Strange

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t;topband@contesting.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2016 12:33 PM Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation On Fri,1/15/2016 5:50 AM, Tom W8JI wrote: > I hate to see Hams, who generally used to be higher than average > intelligence, Did you never listen to 75M as a kid? Have you listened rec

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, 2016 12:19 PM Subject: Topband: strange propagation Seems to me the final judge in all of this is the guy who stares back at you from the mirror every morning. There are a million ways to game the rules and outright cheat ... even in ham radio, where the rewards for a "win"

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: Topband: Strange propagation You could look at this in another way. Wasn't W!BB's location a the Water Tower an early form of RHR, except that he walked to the remote site instead of operating remotely. Does anyone know if Stew made his DXCC solely from the Water tower site? Did anyone else ever

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A very interesting interpretation of the FCC regs by a former FCC official. Whether a liability lawyer would agree with him is debatable in my opinion. Just like a bartender can be liable for serving drinks to an obviously drunk person who then goes off and kills someone in a driving accident, so

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73, Charles, W2SH From: john.kaufm...@verizon.net > To: topband@contesting.com > Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 15:59:34 -0500 > Subject: Re: Topband: Strange propagation > > I was lucky enough to vis

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1eu <barry.n...@gmail.com>; topband <topband@contesting.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2016 7:31 am Subject: Re: Topband: Strange propagation Can they add /RHR or such please? So I can choose if I want to make this kind of QSO. BTW, I require a remote solution for climbing Everest or pa

Topband: Topband Strange Propagation

I don't want to start another "run" here but I was a bit disturbed last night after deciding to try for a new one, K5P.  Guys all over the DX transmitting freq and one who must have fallen asleep with his finger on the send button.   He must have sent his call sign for over a minute.  I sent my

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Years ago it was "Lists" to work DX that were objected to. Remember Go Ahead k9xxx make your call. k9xxx gives call and report. DX says was that 4/5 ? List Taker Nope DX was that 4/7 List taker Nope in between. OK GOT IT. And all the complaining continued about List Takers and People who

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I enjoyed those words of wisdom, John. But you left out a lot of important things!! ;-) What about when King Spark gave way to that terrible invention of vacuum tubes? Or when straight keys were replaced with Vibroplex "bugs" or (gasp!) electronic keyers!? And COMPUTERS! AGH! Sacrilege and

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from AOL Mobile Mail -Original Message- From: Louis Parascondola via Topband <topband@contesting.com> To: john <j...@johnjeanantiqueradio.com>; topband <topband@contesting.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2016 06:54 PM Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation Would you agree t

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To: 'Louis Parascondola' <gudguy...@aol.com>; topband <topband@contesting.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2016 02:58 AM Subject: RE: Topband: strange propagation #AOLMsgPart_2_976c86f7-c684-4874-ae95-34e58b192d67 td{color: black;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2

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, 2016 3:28 AM To: sawye...@earthlink.net; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation I can't be 100% sure but I think this will all wash down to the fact that stations are no longer licensed and the control operator is fully responsible. And I do believe that is the case

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Yes indeed since the transmission originated in the US and a foreign operating sending his call must use the proper ID such as W4/IK9XXX Herb, KV4FZ On 1/15/2016 12:35 AM, Ed Sawyer wrote: In the case discussed of a station remoting in and not properly identifying (ie an Italian station

Re: Topband: Strange propagation

-Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Kris Mraz Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 7:19 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Strange propagation Which brings to mind another issue: 160m card checkers will disallow a card if the DX QSO

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com> Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2016 03:15 AM Subject: Re: Topband: strange propagation Yes indeed since the transmission originated in the US and a foreign operating sending his call must use the proper ID such as W4/IK9XXX Herb, KV4FZ On 1/15/2016 12:35 AM, Ed Sawyer wrote: > In the

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W8JI Lähetetty: 15. tammikuutata 2016 4:42 Vastaanottaja: topband@contesting.com; Mike Cizek W0VTT Aihe: Re: Topband: Strange propagation I am a 160 card checker, and I damn well DO check the times! I'm sorry to report that I have found cases where "impossible" QSOs were claimed, and rep

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by. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -Original Message- From: Ed Sawyer <sawye...@earthlink.net> To: 'Louis Parascondola' <gudguy...@aol.com>; topband <topband@contesting.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2016 02:58 AM Subject: RE: Topband: strange propagation #AOLMsgPart_2_976c8

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@contesting.com' Subject: RE: Topband: strange propagation It would be hard to believe that the control operator is outside the US, beyond the FCC jurisdiction, and no one in the US is responsible. If that is the case, its pretty scary in my opinion. 73 Ed N1UR From: Louis Parascondola

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ch...@gmail.com>; topband <topband@contesting.com> Sent: Thu, Jan 14, 2016 1:15 am Subject: Re: Topband: Strange propagation I will say this: operating a remote station (for money) owned and managed by someone else will never be as satisfying as operating your own station, built by you

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>>>Which brings to mind another issue: 160m card checkers will disallow a card if the DX QSO occurred in the middle of the day since the path would be impossible. Can't make that assumption, anymore.<<< LOTW is responsible for 90% or more 160m DXCC confirmation and there is no check on day

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on the reflector. This topic has so many posts it constipated my netzero account. Carl AG6X -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of JC Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 5:39 PM To: 'TopBand' Subject: Re: Topband: Strange propagation <> The

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...@audiosystemsgroup.com ; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Strange propagation SO they did the next best thing and left it up to the individual to decide what is moral or ethical for them. If someone gets DXCC honor roll using that system, good for them but it >doesn't hold water to me. They w

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at. for years I was a very hard hunter of game, -Original Message- From: john <w8...@citynet.net> To: topband <topband@contesting.com> Sent: Thu, Jan 14, 2016 5:28 pm Subject: Re: Topband: Strange propagation you know,,,at 74 if I need something that bad,,, I need to re-

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> The ethics of the whole thing has already been settled by the ARRL so ethics don't have to be looked at. Actually the ARRL didn't do squat about ethics. They left the "ethics" up to the operator. You are confusing "rules" with "ethics". There is a difference between what is permitted and what

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esting.com>; 'Herbert Schoenbohm' <he...@vitelcom.net>; 'Dave Blaschke, w5un' <w...@wt.net> Sent: Thu, Jan 14, 2016 6:58 pm Subject: Re: Topband: Strange propagation FYI...I have dxcc 304 and 40 zones on 160 meters and all were worked from my home in NE Indiana. 73, de gary, kd

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arry K5Rki -Original Message- From: Mike Cizek W0VTT [mailto:mgci...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 7:41 PM To: Larry Burke; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Strange propagation Larry, et al, I am a 160 card checker, and I damn well DO check the times! I'm sorry

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: Re: Topband: Strange propagation Which brings to mind another issue: 160m card checkers will disallow a card if the DX QSO occurred in the middle of the day since the path would be impossible. Can't make that assumption, anymore. Kris N5KM _ Topband Reflector Archives - http

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e of the day since the path would be impossible. Can't make that assumption, anymore. Kris N5KM -Original Message- From: Larry <pace...@aol.com> To: barry.n1eu <barry.n...@gmail.com> Sent: Thu, Jan 14, 2016 10:22 pm Subject: Re: Topband: Strange propagation More than once I ha

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14, 2016 4:54 pm Subject: Re: Topband: Strange propagation Dave, What will happen then is that the RHR gurus will just jack up the rates to take the hams with deepest pockets. Additionally the laws of supply will kick in and more RHR station and others will invest in this scheme to put more st

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January 14, 2016 7:19 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Strange propagation Which brings to mind another issue: 160m card checkers will disallow a card if the DX QSO occurred in the middle of the day since the path would be impossible. Can't make that assumption, anymore.

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I am a 160 card checker, and I damn well DO check the times! I'm sorry to report that I have found cases where "impossible" QSOs were claimed, and reported them to the mother ship in Newington. I would sincerely hope that my colleagues would do the same.>>> But isn't it legal to operate

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net> To: topband <topband@contesting.com> Sent: Thu, Jan 14, 2016 5:28 pm Subject: Re: Topband: Strange propagation you know,,,at 74 if I need something that bad,,, I need to re-evaluate my priorities,,, what ever I work will be from my home , or my farm, 32 miles away I am very fortunate

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