Topband: DXwars over the years

2019-02-03 Thread kolson
I was licensed long enough ago that I have seen a ton of changes in Ham Radio, all of which were purported to make Ham Radio  "easy " and make the previous generation of Hams feel that their accomplishments were somehow being devalued. Here are a few... ARRL DX contest ending Quotas: "We

Topband: Topband Phenomenon

2019-02-03 Thread Dan Atchison via Topband
During the CQ WW 160 CW contest a week ago while operating at the N1LN M/S station, I happened to be in a fantastic run of EU. On one and only one QSO, I worked a "G" station whose callsign's last suffix letter was at least 20dB stronger than the rest of his call.  I mentioned this to NR4M

Re: Topband: Topband Phenomenon

2019-02-03 Thread Herbert Schoenbohm
This could be explained by a power increase when the station's amp came on after warm up. However, a sudden 20 DB is a lot of increase to explain by any means. Maybe contacting the G station could help. Herb, KV4FZ On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 1:38 PM Dan Atchison via Topband <

Re: Topband: Updated K9YC common-mode choke PDF now available

2019-02-03 Thread Jim Garland
Guy, I agree in principle that coax with a stranded center conductor will be more flexible than coax with a solid conductor, although in applications where there is mechanical stress on the coax, coax with a solid steel core will be significantly stronger than its stranded counterpart.

Re: Topband: Topband Phenomenon

2019-02-03 Thread Ralph Bellas
Not sure why airplane is an option considering the wavelength. It doesn't have much of a reflecting surface. We barely could hear the handful of Europeans for a few minutes at their sunrise. K9ZO From: Topband on behalf of Dan Atchison via Topband Sent:

Re: Topband: FT8 vs other modes - my numbers

2019-02-03 Thread Jeff Blaine
Tim, My take on the popularity is explained this way.  FT8 has an SNR advantage over CW of around 5 dB, PSK31 - about 10 dB and SSB of more than 15 dB.  So for a given set of link conditions, FT8 result in a Q in the log more often than the other modes. Add in the poor prop conditions and

Re: Topband: Topband Phenomenon

2019-02-03 Thread Paul Kiesel via Topband
I don't have an explanation for this, but I had a similar experience during the contest. My receiveantenna is an unterminated BOG running alongside the road in front. I struggled to get F4HEC's call because he was so weak. He persisted and I finally got it. He was the first European that I

Re: Topband: Topband Phenomenon

2019-02-03 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
For 160 meters don’t think of a jet as a reflecting surface. Try “thick wire”. Particularly one in a tight turn and wings significantly vertical. 73, Guy K2AV On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 2:10 PM Paul Kiesel via Topband < topband@contesting.com> wrote: > I don't have an explanation for this, but I

Topband: Shunt feed bandwidth & coax

2019-02-03 Thread Kenny Silverman
Hi All, Thanks again for your help back In December. KC4D’s 135’ tower (110 degrees electrical length) with an omega match is up and running. There are 60 110’ radials though half go out 40’ and are coiled up until permission is arranged to go on neighbors land. The shunt is a 4 wire cage

Re: Topband: Updated K9YC common-mode choke PDF now available

2019-02-03 Thread Grant Saviers
My experience with 142 wound on 240-31 cores would agree with Jim's experiment. NO problems after years in service. It is well known that TFE insulation is subject to creep - I've proved that in wire wrap service with cut thru shorts. However, that is with the wire tight against as sharp an

Re: Topband: Topband Phenomenon

2019-02-03 Thread Arthur Delibert
Back in the early 60s, NASA launched a couple of satellites named Echo I and Echo II that were essentially huge reflecting balloons. You could tune to WWV on 20 MHz at a time of day when that was above the MUF. When the Echo satellite came by, WWV would pop up out of nowhere for a few seconds

Topband: FT8 vs other modes - my numbers.

2019-02-03 Thread DXer
Tim, You wrote in your reply to Mike, W0MU: >...you are buying into a myth that both supporters and detractors of FT8 perpetuate. The myth that FT8 is superior for DX'ing, to other modes. With all due respect, I think you are 'buying' into the 'red herring' that some are using to 'bad

Re: Topband: FT8 vs other modes - my numbers.

2019-02-03 Thread Cecil Acuff
Yeah the elitist attitude of CW being the only thing that’s real that seems to permeate this list at times is quite stale. I work CW, SSB, RTTY, FT8whatever gets the contact in the log...it’s all radiotake the radio away or have Mother Nature take the path down and nothing gets

Re: Topband: Updated K9YC common-mode choke PDF now available

2019-02-03 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I would not repeatedly bend any coax with a solid center conductor. Which leaves RG142 for permanent routing. Jumpers to and from back of TXR and amps etc are always RG400. Windings on cores are always RG400. RG400 shield weave and center conductor made of very fine strands of silver coated

Re: Topband: FT8 vs other modes - my numbers

2019-02-03 Thread Tim Shoppa
Mike, you are buying into a myth that both supporters and detractors of FT8 perpetuate. The myth that FT8 is superior for DX'ing, to other modes. 2018 was my "year of FT8". I participated in several on-air WSJT new feature tests including DXpedition mode testing. I spent the vast majority of my

Re: Topband: FT8 vs other modes - my numbers.

2019-02-03 Thread Arthur Delibert
Well said. Thank you. From: Topband on behalf of Cecil Acuff Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 7:06 PM To: DXer Cc: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: FT8 vs other modes - my numbers. Yeah the elitist attitude of CW being the only thing that’s real

Re: Topband: Topband Phenomenon

2019-02-03 Thread terry burge
Maybe the International Space Station could reflect a 160 meter signal or reradiate it. It's larger than a football field. Just a thought. Let's see, people could use the space station to bounce signals off of. Another reason to keep it from falling in the Pacific Ocean someday. Terry KI7M >

Topband: When is coax 'contaminated' beyond use?

2019-02-03 Thread terry burge
Hi Folks, A few years back some 9913 I was using apparently got water in the coax. I say this because of fluctuating SWR issues and I noted the shield when cut into was almost 'black'. So for my minor purpose of using spare coax for my dump power on an 80 meter 4-square can some of this coax

Re: Topband: When is coax 'contaminated' beyond use?

2019-02-03 Thread Mike Waters
I don't know exactly what you mean by "dump power", but I suggest that you throw that nasty corroded coax in the garbage. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. ;-) Not unless you can figure out a way to scrape all sides of all the strands in that shield! *For an effective shield braid, they all

Re: Topband: Topband Phenomenon

2019-02-03 Thread Mike Waters
I wouldn't count on it! 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Sun, Feb 3, 2019, 9:25 PM terry burge wrote: > Maybe the International Space Station could reflect a 160 meter signal or > reradiate it. It's larger than a football field. Just a thought. Let's see, > people could use the space station to

Re: Topband: Topband Phenomenon

2019-02-03 Thread Mike Waters
Okay. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Sun, Feb 3, 2019, 10:52 PM terry burge wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Would not count on it, huh? Well, if the Echo 1 and echo 2 would work > (which we know they did work and prove the method for bouncing signals off > a satellite to elsewhere on the earth, why not

Re: Topband: When is coax 'contaminated' beyond use?

2019-02-03 Thread Joe
Use the length, At the far end put it into a dummy load. Put your watt meter at the transmitter, make say 100 watts, move watt meter to the dummy load and see how many watts are there. Thats the losses. Joe WB9SBD Sig The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com

Re: Topband: When is coax 'contaminated' beyond use?

2019-02-03 Thread Chortek, Robert L.
Hi Terry, It seems to me that it ought to be fine to use the coax. The fact the coax has more loss than non-contaminated coax shouldn’t matter, since the whole point is to dump the wattage as part of the 4 Sq. System. Using lower loss Coax would only mean more power would get to the dummy

Re: Topband: When is coax 'contaminated' beyond use?

2019-02-03 Thread terry burge
Hi Bob, The issue I'm faced with is I have 168' to the base of my tower. The Comtek 4-square box is another 64' up the tower. To get to the wattmeter just outside my shack window is perhaps 15-20 more feet. All told, perhaps 252'. In the process of getting the wattmeter where I could read it

Re: Topband: When is coax 'contaminated' beyond use?

2019-02-03 Thread Jeff Blaine
The last version of my elevated 40m 4-square (~2016-7?) was built with belden stuff that had the black coating all along the length.  I buffed it up and used crimp connectors.  Worked great. My reasoning was that while the contamination was going to affect some of the cross connects of the