Topband: CI-V listening variable antenna controller

2012-10-15 Thread Grant Saviers
Before I reinvent the wheel, I thought I'd ask if this exists as a commercial product or homebrew project. I've googled quite a bit without success. What I need is a screwdriver antenna controller that listens to CI-V and commands a DC motor to a predetermined stored in memory rotation

Re: Topband: Beverage Antenna

2012-11-09 Thread Grant Saviers
I'm not sure why the bidirectional coaxial cable Beveridge doesn't get more discussion. It is described in ON4UN's book, and seemed to work fine when I built one at a prior QTH, although it does take two feedlines from what would logically be the closest end to the shack. Given the price of

Topband: how high are very high voltages on antennas?

2012-11-21 Thread Grant Saviers
It is often mentioned that very high RF voltages are present at ends of dipoles, voltage nodes on loops, etc. but I haven't been able to find any guidance in the form of numbers. How high is very high? Assuming QRO power into a full size apex up delta loop, corner fed, vertically polarized,

Re: Topband: how high are very high voltages on antennas?

2012-11-22 Thread Grant Saviers
Thanks for the insight. I will try the EZNEC suggestion. stub was a bad choice of words, I've got two approaches in contemplation/analysis mode, both wire loading schemes: 1. Four relay switched vertical wires at the center bottom voltage node. The antenna has about a 25 KHz 2:1 bandwidth

Re: Topband: how high are very high voltages on antennas?

2012-11-22 Thread Grant Saviers
haven't thought through how to use (number??) Tornado coils in a delta loop. Two would exceed the cost of the SteppIR 40m vertical. Grant KZ1W On 11/22/2012 11:45 AM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: On 11/22/2012 9:13 AM, Grant Saviers wrote: with the antenna. An MFJ screwdriver controller

Re: Topband: beverage construction

2012-11-22 Thread Grant Saviers
A neat and cheap insulator for along a Beverage is the C shaped screw in insulator for electric horse fences. The ends of the C overlap so a half twist allows the wire to be inserted and then held with 90 degree rotation. It is then free to slide in the insulator. Most any horse/ag supply

Re: Topband: Elevated Radials Questions

2012-12-13 Thread Grant Saviers
Thanks for the comments and pointers. The land around the antenna is mixed grass and forested islands so on the ground radials would be partially buried and partially on the surface. Digging through the trees and clearing the brush is not something I want to do. Also, based on prior

Re: Topband: GAP Vertical Question

2012-12-17 Thread Grant Saviers
I second this motion. Nearly every day brings some new insights. Thanks, Grant KZ1W On 12/17/2012 11:30 AM, Lew Sayre wrote: Yo, Tom, et. al. please do keep taking this seriously! Most of us on this reflector do not have engineering degrees involving the physics of RF. However we do

Re: Topband: KLM antennas on shunt fed towers

2012-12-26 Thread Grant Saviers
A little different version of this question - is there any general guidance about what to do with pickup on other antennas when transmitting? Shunt the pickup to a dummy load? short? open? something else? I'm adding a vertically polarized pair of phased 80m delta loops (ON4UN design) on

Topband: Radials and concrete

2012-12-29 Thread Grant Saviers
Can I incorporate reinforced concrete and a steel building into a radial field? About 20% of my 60 buried radials from a grounded tower will encounter concrete pads/driveway before they get to the target length of about 90'. One reference I found quotes moist concrete as having a

Re: Topband: Reversible BOG?

2013-01-12 Thread Grant Saviers
The reversible single coax Beverage is described in ON4UN 's Low Band DXing at least editions 4 5. I've built a couple elevated ones from ebay RG58 and they work fine. I think RG6/RG59 would work as well with small changes to the transformer ratios. Grant KZ1W On 1/11/2013 9:17 PM, Jim

Topband: elevated radials dilemma

2013-02-20 Thread Grant Saviers
My top loaded T top band vertical is up. 85' vertical, 43' each side T and 3 elevated 123' radials at 10 to 12'. Resonance Z is currently 36 ohms and 90KHz 2:1 swr BW.EZNEC+ shows a resonance Z of 25 ohms with 4 elevated radials, so I presume the delta is ground loss. The antenna is

Re: Topband: CQ 160M SSB CONTEST

2013-02-25 Thread Grant Saviers
My first and maybe my last 160m SSB effort. It did motivate me to get a 160 antenna up. I would agree that participation is thin. Worked most states but no !!! W1's (only weakly heard 2) VE's a few Caribbean, . Propagation and the central/east coast US QRM and their QRN levels require a

Re: Topband: Elevated Radials

2013-03-03 Thread Grant Saviers
Tom, Great stuff! Could you elaborate on a couple of points - 1. I would think that a system with elevated radials that slope upward towards the far ends (e.g for 160m 10' at feedpoint and 30' at far ends) should have less loss as the field is less near earth where the voltage is high in the

Re: Topband: ALUMANIZED STEEL

2013-03-06 Thread Grant Saviers
Bought some, but what I received is so hard it is near impossible to bend. The 9ga solid Al fencing wire seems like a better alternative, although I've been using the 13ga for elevated radials. They claim a 30ksi yield strength so compared to soft steel at 38ksi it should stand up. Relative

Re: Topband: Low Band DXing??

2013-03-11 Thread Grant Saviers
The book is a pdf so the OS shouldn't matter. The SW on the CD is one DOS program, so the OS needs to run or emulate DOS. Grant KZ1W On 3/10/2013 2:20 PM, k2...@juno.com wrote: Hello All, I would like to buy the latest edition on ON4UN's Low Band DXing with the CD ROM. On the ARRL book

Re: Topband: Common Mode Chokes

2013-06-09 Thread Grant Saviers
I have built several chokes on FT240-31 cores with RG142 double silver shield TFE coax (ok for QRO anywhere at HF) and measured them with my VNWA 2.6. For my 160m top loaded vertical I stacked three cores and used 12 turns for 4k ohms resistive. My results generally agree with G3TXQ's and

Re: Topband: Topband Inv-L Joy

2013-07-26 Thread Grant Saviers
Posted on towertalk yesterday was the link to the free download of the 1952 text Radio Antenna Engineering http://www.lulu.com/us/en/shop/edmund-laport/radio-antenna-engineering/ebook/product-17560294.html Some fascinating stuff since much of the focus is high power broadcasting LF/HF and

Re: Topband: Effect of trees- tree appreciation

2013-08-10 Thread Grant Saviers
Here is a little data in a sea of complexity: My 160m T is 10' up at the base with 6 x 125' radials elevated ten feet (4 more planned), in a mixed hemlock/red cedar/alder forest/clear area. The top is at 87' and the T arms are 42' each side at the same height. The vertical wire (13ga

Re: Topband: and KDKA

2013-09-10 Thread Grant Saviers
a briefly KDKA employee on the studio side pre WWII and the two brothers roomed with Dave Garroway who started his broadcasting career at KDKA. Grant Saviers KZ1W On 9/10/2013 12:32 PM, Herb Schoenbohm wrote: There is an old story about KDKA's antenna system that was told to be a long time ago

Re: Topband: and KDKA

2013-09-10 Thread Grant Saviers
site KDKA/Westinghouse experimented with MW 400kw transmissions. Grant Saviers KZ1W On 9/10/2013 12:32 PM, Herb Schoenbohm wrote: There is an old story about KDKA's antenna system that was told to be a long time ago. During WWII KDKA along with a frew other stations was allowed to operate

Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 129, Issue 23

2013-09-16 Thread Grant Saviers
Try a large transformer shop. 5kw and up transformers often use it. I've bought round magnet wire from temcoindustrialpower.com, but don't see rectangular wire on the web site, so give them a call for a link. Grant KZ1W On 9/15/2013 9:04 PM, n0...@juno.com wrote: I've just used strips of

Re: Topband: Beverage antenna terminations

2013-09-25 Thread Grant Saviers
There are plenty of Allen Bradley 1w real carbon composition resistors on ebay at prices ranging from $0.25 ea to absurdium. Buy some that you can series/parellel to get the value you want. If it doesn't say A-B on the packaging, squash one in your vice. I've found wire-wounds inside some

Re: Topband: Aluminium roof vs antenna performance

2013-10-18 Thread Grant Saviers
I had a 40m and 80m top loaded vertical on galvanized steel roofs. The 80m was outstanding for DX and the 40m so-so since the roof was not well bonded electrically. IMO, unless you can insure electrical connectivity along the panel seams there will be no advantage to the foil. You would

Re: Topband: Beverage Woes

2013-10-23 Thread Grant Saviers
Or you could replace the open wire line with a bi-directional coax cable Beverage. see ON4UN. I've built a couple from RG58 and they worked ok. RG6 would be stronger, but might have a bit more loss with the copperweld center conductor, but that usually isn't a concern. The RG58 fit thru

Re: Topband: Steady Carrier on 80 CW -BTW

2013-11-01 Thread Grant Saviers
How about a compass and declination map? A bit simpler good enough +/- 2 degrees. http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/geomag/WMM/image.shtml The standard for course plots on nautical charts is the letter T for true or M for magnetic after the degrees number and then an arrow to indicate for which

Re: Topband: Wanted - Hardline connectors

2013-11-12 Thread Grant Saviers
At my (former) CA ranch QTH, in the hills only 4 miles east of downtown San Jose, our cats weigh 130#. Sorry I can't send the game camera pix of the gorgeous mt. lion taken a couple of weeks ago near my spring. He/she looks happy on the diet of cats, dogs, coyotes, lambs and rarely a jogger.

Re: Topband: Spitfire.......one more question

2013-11-17 Thread Grant Saviers
And one more question - ON4UN in V5 states that the Spitfire will lose a few db of gain due to ground losses. How does one calculate near field ground losses? What software is needed? A related question is a general one for antennas with near ground horizontal elements - e.g. Bruce delta

Re: Topband: Digital mode spurious issues

2013-12-31 Thread Grant Saviers
An interesting point from Tom re SSB modulation added problems. A really informative website re plain old RTTY is http://www.frontiernet.net/~aflowers/k3rtty/k3rtty.html and is a good introduction to the technical complexity of digital modulation systems and what to do to make better RTTY

Topband: Ends for older Phillystran

2014-01-13 Thread Grant Saviers
Hoping for some help to be able to use some older Philly. The factory tells me their grips won't work on parallel strand construction which is what I have, epoxy potted sockets are required. However, they only pot at the factory (liability etc etc) which means tossing 6 x 300' of 5/8 45klb

Re: Topband: Ends for older Phillystran

2014-01-14 Thread Grant Saviers
Thanks to all who provided info and suggestions. I plan to run some tests, starting with a modification to my 20T H frame press so I can tension test specimens up to 10k lbs or so and measure force with a simple Dillon mechanical 5k# force gauge I have. A lever arm will give me 2x and maybe

Re: Topband: Anyone purchased the ARRL book on Short Antennas for160???

2014-01-24 Thread Grant Saviers
I'd like to understand how NEC 4 achieves this calibration for MW BC ground systems. Do others share this concern? What errors are introduced for other analysis as a result? Grant KZ1W On 1/24/2014 1:58 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: I have already stipulated many times that NEC 4 is

Re: Topband: New MFJ 259C available

2014-03-03 Thread Grant Saviers
My VNWA V2.6 factory assembled Vector Network Analyzer, designed by DG8SAQ is available for $400 incl shipping, USA only, as I upgraded to the newer version V3. 1KHz to 1300MHz, 2 port, USB powered, no cables or standards included. see www.sdr-kits.net for full specs Radcom review at

Re: Topband: New MFJ 259C available

2014-03-04 Thread Grant Saviers
I have made sweeps of my 160m T on many occasions as I tuned it, added elevated radials, and then installed a remote series capacitor switch to tune the entire band per a W8JI suggestion. There was no interference from AMBC, I'd be glad to forward the sweeps. My current QTH does not have a

Re: Topband: carrier on 1810.8 MHz

2014-03-25 Thread Grant Saviers
Steady S7 here in Redmond, WA at 3:30 PDT on a T loaded vertical. My receive 4 sq puts it strongly to my NW of 47.68N x 122.01W QTH No loop to resolve it further. Grant KZ1W On 3/25/2014 12:48 PM, Lee K7TJR wrote: OK, we now have a challenge for any hams interested in finding a stray

Re: Topband: Ends for older Phillystran

2014-03-31 Thread Grant Saviers
- N9LB [mailto:lloydb...@charter.net] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 5:15 PM To: Grant Saviers;topband@contesting.com Subject: RE: Topband: Ends for older Phillystran Hi Grant! I worked at WDAE Radio in Tampa, FL back in the 80's and 90's. The engineer before me decided to try the new technology

Re: Topband: 1000 feet 5/8 hardline or 600ohm True Ladder line.

2014-04-26 Thread Grant Saviers
I use 9 gauge Al electric fencing wire for elevated radials among my trees. It is pretty tough stuff, as 3 branches have fallen on it without anything but a little stretch. it doesn't stretch much with time either. Now 7.5 cents per foot on Amazon

Re: Topband: Fwd: cable clamps on old Phillystran

2014-05-29 Thread Grant Saviers
-- From: Grant Saviers gran...@pacbell.net Date: Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:56 PM Subject: cable clamps on old Phillystran To: topband@contesting.com Cc: t...@kkn.net Per prior topband posts and discussions about this topic, I've concluded a round of testing of cable clamps on parallel strand (old

Topband: Terminating old Phillystran with Spelter sockets

2014-06-19 Thread Grant Saviers
I recently concluded testing of wire rope clamps (clips) on old parallel Phillystran (PS). The old PS does not work with the current PS guy grip type of termination. These tests showed that clamps as a termination system has risks that are not acceptable to me. Since the factory no longer

Re: Topband: Deployable radials for 80/160M

2014-06-23 Thread Grant Saviers
re elevated radials: For a thorough analysis of radials check out antennasbyn6lf.com for Rudy's work. Assuming farming happens, perhaps you can get them high enough to make the owner happy. Mine are at 10', but higher is better. I use #12 or #14 aluminum electric fence wire elevated 10.

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: Modeling the proverbial vertical on a beach

2014-08-11 Thread Grant Saviers
At TX5D, Raivavae, Australs FP, I could real time A/B a vertical at the high tide line on 15m vs one 100' feet back and got 1 to 2 S units better for the beach one on the USA path about 7000km. Grant KZ1W On 8/11/2014 1:16 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: The riveting experience I draw on is one

Re: Topband: cable clamps on old Phillystran

2014-08-14 Thread Grant Saviers
In addition to my prior long term creep tests for loads to 11,000#, I've concluded a tension test to failure of the Crosby Spelter socket terminations for the older parallel strand Phillystran in 5/8 OD size and using West Marine 105 epoxy as the potting compound. I was unable to source the

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Outdoor rope suggestions

2014-09-02 Thread Grant Saviers
Over the past 25 years, at 3 QTH's, I've used thousands of feet of the synthetictextilesinc.com 1/4 and 5/16 and have been very happy with it. Tough, strong, and lasts a very long time (MA winters, CA sun). I do use 29/30mm ball bearing pulleys (blocks) from Harken HAR340, RonstanRF20100

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: Outdoor rope suggestions

2014-09-02 Thread Grant Saviers
The smaller diameter (20 to 30mm) ball bearing sailboat blocks are $15 to $25 as I previously posted. Here is a slick block from REI for rigging ropes up to 15mm. http://www.rei.com/product/807414/camp-usa-large-mobile-pulley-ball-bearings 5600# break strength so WLL at 25% is 1400#. the

Re: Topband: [Bulk] 160M loading coil mounting/orientation

2014-09-08 Thread Grant Saviers
Have you checked the design with EZNEC? A little more top hat and you won't need a coil. I had an 80m top loaded 3 dia vertical 40' tall which resonated at 3.8MHz. A tweak of that model to 70' showed the 8 x 8 ft spokes at the top would resonate at 1.8MHZ, 33 ohms. A perimeter wire seems

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: Outdoor rope suggestions

2014-09-17 Thread Grant Saviers
I've had real Synthetic Textiles lines up 10 years and more. Some in CA sun, without significant degradation. OTOH, some dacron bought on ebay is likely a dacron-polypro blend and lasted only a few years. Grant KZ1W On 9/17/2014 2:37 PM, Tom W8JI wrote: In about 7 years that Dacron stuff

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: Remote pre-amp power source

2014-09-25 Thread Grant Saviers
The way to squeeze the most watt-hours out of panels and into batteries is with MPPT regulators. Maximum power point regulators that adjust rapidly to the real time insolation. A series regulator is throwing away W-H. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_power_point_tracking some

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: 160 GP Choke

2014-09-30 Thread Grant Saviers
Jim, Would the type 75 material from Fair-Rite, be a better choice for 160 80 with 5 turns thru the 0.75 id clamp on? http://www.fair-rite.com/newfair/LowFreqSuppression.html your thoughts? Grant KZ1W On 9/29/2014 11:56 AM, Jim Brown wrote: On Mon,9/29/2014 10:43 AM, wb6r...@mac.com

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: Phased short vertical receive antenna system

2014-11-19 Thread Grant Saviers
I have the DX Eng 4 sq rcv and am amazed at how directive it is, 70' on a side, works well for 160 80, my Moxon beam is usually better on 40m. I bought 6' long (5/8, 1/2, 3/8 od) telescopic tubing from DXE instead of SS whips, cheaper and slightly more gain. I made holders for the tubing

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: tool for install radials

2014-12-09 Thread Grant Saviers
Cool, never seen one. A nice tool but probably $25k+. Another way I've used to install a 6000' long water line is to use a single blade ripper to pull 200' lengths of 1 PVC using a Kellems grip (Chinese finger grabber) as shown in the video. We dug a small hole at the end of each pull for

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: That 1.9 MHz radar signal...

2014-12-11 Thread Grant Saviers
The old portable marine RDF radios with a ferrite rod antenna would work well. Besides tuning the marine LF beacons many also covered BC and low MF bands. I tossed mine long ago, maybe there are some lurking in attics or garages, they provided a very sharp null for DFing. There are many on

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Shunt Feed - Insulated Elements on Yagi

2014-12-18 Thread Grant Saviers
I'm considering insulating elements on large yagis and would like to understand pro's and con's of various boom to element plate insulating materials - RF insulation, physical strength, creep, uv resistance, etc. These raw material properties are easily found, but have some had longer term in

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: AC line bypass capacitors

2015-02-04 Thread Grant Saviers
A nice tutorial about the what and why of line connected capacitors at http://www.justradios.com/safetytips.html Grant KZ1W On 2/4/2015 10:32 AM, Jim Brown wrote: On Wed,2/4/2015 9:52 AM, Roger Graves wrote: I would like to try bypassing the AC line. There is a particular class of bypass

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: K1N DQRM Tracking Project

2015-02-10 Thread Grant Saviers
Adding on, 200Ksps to 1 Msps 8bit (and more) A/D convertors are good enough and cheap if one can store the data stream for a few seconds or so and the stations are time sync'd to record. Then correlate the wavefront to accurately resolve the time. A bonus is the transmitter signature is

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: HVDC

2015-02-10 Thread Grant Saviers
I would suspect that a DC HV line operator will pay A LOT of attention to any arcing from what I've seen of HV DC arcs. Once the ionization gets established and metal ions vaporized from the terminals get flowing it avalanches until the protection circuits act. Small AC arcs are much

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: Skywave vs. Earth Conductivity

2015-02-13 Thread Grant Saviers
At TX5D (FO-A), I was able to instant A/B a 15m vertical (two elevated radials) at high tide line vs a crankIR tuned on 15m about 70' from high tide. US stations (5k to 7k km) reported 1 to 2 S unit improvements with the antenna nearer to the lagoon salt water. Received signals were at least

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Looking for 160m narrow beam RX advice

2015-01-04 Thread Grant Saviers
I put my DX Eng 4 sq right at a corner of my lot. A 4' ground rod only worked ok, but in a pretty wet area most of the year, so I added three 15 foot bare #14 Cu radials for drier times. Two along the 90 deg baselines as keeping radials away from the feedline to the central switch seemed a

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: Use of Remote Receivers During 160 Meter Contests

2015-03-16 Thread Grant Saviers
With 1/3 of the worlds hams in Japan (1.2M) as one mult and many EU countries with less 10k hams each as a mult the whole way most contests are scored makes no sense. Of course there is no perfectly fair system of scoring, but Stew Perry has some ideas that may work as a new HF contest. It

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: RG-6 questions

2015-03-16 Thread Grant Saviers
Since non plenum rated cables no longer meet codes, there is an opportunity to buy the NOS of it cheap on ebay. I've scored a couple of ebay 1000' spools of tinned double braid rg59 Belden, 20 ga center for around 10 cents a foot. I think it's the precision video cable Jim mentions. Here

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Skywave vs. Earth Conductivity

2015-02-28 Thread Grant Saviers
in a suitcase and cover 80-10m. My rule of thumb is get within 1/4wl of the salt water for best results. Then v-o-b's rule. Grant KZ1W 2/13/2015 1:11 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On Fri,2/13/2015 12:29 PM, Grant Saviers wrote: At TX5D (FO-A), I was able to instant A/B a 15m vertical (two elevated radials

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Improving low angle reception DX Eng 8 ele Circle RCV Array

2015-03-01 Thread Grant Saviers
My 4 sq DXE exhibits similar no directivity at times. I think it is high angle signals. I did add three 20 foot radials to each antenna, I don't think it matters what the vertical element is, a little better grounding is good. My soil is wet/swampy forest/grass mix and I don't think they

Re: Topband: [Bulk] RX cables in woods

2015-02-21 Thread Grant Saviers
Rock ledges probably mean directional drilling would be prohibitively expensive. Even in soft soil it costs A LOT more than trenching. Same for a Ditch Witch over ledge even with carbide teeth, but you might get a lot of it underground.I put in 6000' of 1 water line (mostly PVC) to a

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: Elimination of Treadmill RFI on 160 meters

2015-01-29 Thread Grant Saviers
Pretty hard to find a box with the volume you need and already cut for outlets. What I do for large size line filters is use a plastic junction box from Home Depot (Carlon or Thomas Betts). They come 4x4x2, 4x4x4, 6x6x4 and larger. Then a pigtail out to a standard outlet box of any type

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: Salt-Water Qth!

2015-04-02 Thread Grant Saviers
Since this thread continues, I thought I would share some EZNEC Pro/4 modeling results I have submitted for publication to QEX, with a focus on verticals on the beach for DXpeditions. EZNEC Pro4 can segment ground along a line into two arbitrary ground properties, in my modeling 4 S/m, 80 for

Re: Topband: [Bulk] verticals by the sea

2015-04-02 Thread Grant Saviers
Per ARRL the K3LC NCJ work is unobtanium. (WHY?) A Google search yielded nothing. If a member has pdf's of the articles or a link, forwarding them to me would be much appreciated. Grant KZ1W On 4/2/2015 15:55 PM, Carl Luetzelschwab wrote: Just an FYI with respect to verticals by the

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: A Bit Off Topic

2015-06-27 Thread Grant Saviers
The commercial grade protectors are quite a bit more sophisticated than the few small MOV's network in the small residential units. A look inside a Joslyn is instructive about what it probably *really* takes to protect against serious surges. They have means to maintain protection since MOVs

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Best wire antenna for roof top location

2015-08-07 Thread Grant Saviers
Have you surveyed the site for HF RFI? One mountain top property I was considering had awesome 360d unlimited visibility but had so much power supply hash, PIM, intermod, etc. from comm installations that any amateur operation would be near impossible. My spectrum analyzer showed huge

Re: Topband: [Bulk] alternative feedpoint capacitor

2015-08-02 Thread Grant Saviers
I found NOS Soviet block screw mount micas on ebay that looked like they would handle QRO and have three pairs in series to cover the band with shorting relays - all shorted = 1820 then each step (2 short, 1 short, all open) adds 50KHz. 85' to top, 2x 30' hat and 8 10' elevated 125' radials.

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: RFI - and lots of it

2015-10-29 Thread Grant Saviers
Recently I put up a big new tower and a ground system for it and learned a few things. The actual ground conductivity is a bit of a mystery and highly variable over short distances, so I bought a clamp on ground resistance measuring meter on ebay, a Chinese knockoff for $300. It was quite

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Why do rodents eat coax?

2015-11-09 Thread Grant Saviers
I rented the smallest walk behind trencher from the local Home Depot, it cuts about a 2" wide trench and will go down at least 12". By not getting close to tree trunks to avoid any large roots and to minimize any tree damage, I cut a 300' run through a forest for 1 1/4" conduit. The cable

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: beverage layout

2015-11-07 Thread Grant Saviers
Yet another alternative is the coax cable bidirectional Beverage described by ON4UN (see fig 7-118 in the 5th edition). I've built a couple of them with ok results. Various small (cheap) coax can be used, mine were ebay surplus Belden RG59. RG6 is also a good choice. With a copperweld

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: ADC Overload from MW transmitters

2015-10-19 Thread Grant Saviers
Not having any particular axe to grind, I'll pile on a bit with some comments. 1. The superhet/SDR vs direct sampling radio manufacturer and technology competition is and will continue to be very good for the ham community. 2. The early days of CD audio yielded, "I can't stand the sound"

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: Anybody?

2016-01-01 Thread Grant Saviers
see N6LF's work on 160m top hats http://rudys.typepad.com/files/qex-short-verticals-for-160m.pdf My guess is that informed the DXE design. Grant KZ1W On 1/1/2016 12:07 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: On 1/1/2016 8:16 AM, K4OWR wrote: Does anyone recall that I originally asked about

Re: Topband: [Bulk] placement oc coil

2016-01-08 Thread Grant Saviers
Rudy N6LF has covered the top loading issues pretty thoroughly, see http://rudys.typepad.com/files/qex-short-verticals-for-160m.pdf Bottom line IMO: install as many top loading wires as you can as horizontal as possible and then consider a loading coil. I had eight 6' spokes of 3/8 Al tubing

Re: Topband: Palmyra cursed paradise (K5P)

2016-01-17 Thread Grant Saviers
I did some modeling of radials with elevated radials after 3 "on the beach" DXpeditions. QST said they will publish it this year, sometime. Rudy N6LF has done a lot of modeling of elevated radials see antennasbyn6lf.com and his QEX articles. From my modeling: There is quite a bit of

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Re: Am I the only one in step?

2016-02-29 Thread Grant Saviers
I was a participant in this years CQ-160-SSB. Maybe some data helps the discussion. I was a bit surprised to hear others using frequencies below 1820 as a run freq. My recollection from very limited prior participation is that it was a bit unusual. For all the reasons cited, the band is

Re: Topband: Antenna Tuners

2016-02-16 Thread Grant Saviers
I cut my top loaded "T" (85' at top, 10' high feed, elevated 8x 125' radials) for 1825. Then 3 equal value series capacitors are shorted by PCB relays (10a, 5Kv coil insulation) to switch in C, C/2, and C/3 (C=4000pf for this antenna). That yields 4 by 40KHz spaced segments with > 50KHz 2:1

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Handheld Impedance Analyzer

2016-03-27 Thread Grant Saviers
My 2c, having owned MFJ269, AIM4170, VNWA2.3 & 3, AA54, SARK110, old noise bridges, and used a friends FG-01 on a DXpedition. The MFJ is old, not all that accurate and really useless in the presence of other strong RF, eg BCB. Sold it. I'd call it obsolete vs current competition. AIM4170

Topband: WWROF Webinar - High Performance RX Antennas for a Small Lot

2016-03-05 Thread Grant Saviers
Great presentation! It inspires a question about detuning a vertical: The goal is to reduce noise and any pattern distortion in my receive 4 sq (DXEng) which is about 200' from my transmit vertical. My 160m transmit antenna is a 75' vertical T with 8x 125' radials 8-10' above ground. I've

Re: Topband: [Bulk] Ground screen ????

2016-03-01 Thread Grant Saviers
I've had two verticals on galvanized metal roofs. An 80m top loaded 40' 3" irrigation pipe on a two pitch steep barn roof about 30 x 60' and a full size 1/4wl 40m on a essentially flat roof shed 26 x 26'. The 80m worked super even though the roof was in bad shape. I did add a number of sheet

Re: Topband: [Bulk] BCB High Pass Filter

2016-03-03 Thread Grant Saviers
I have one from Heros Technology in UK, bought 12 years ago, they are still in business and have some interesting products. I checked the filter yesterday with my VNWA and it is exactly as advertised. Array Solutions also has a W3NQN design with better specs at the high end of the BCB.

Re: Topband: Low band antenna project questions

2016-03-07 Thread Grant Saviers
Good recommendations. I did a couple of things differently for my 160 T hung to 3 trees, I use Lewmar or Ronstan or Harken small swivel blocks, cheaper, more durable in tough environments and the swivel helps keep lines from tangling or twist from messing things up. Don't use 3 strand rope.

Re: Topband: 80-160M remote autotuner needed

2016-07-14 Thread Grant Saviers
I have a Bliss MatchMaster remote tuner I can part with and about 150' of control cable with mil-spec connectors. At the time this was the best remote tuner in the market, custom made for each customer. see http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/1582 Grant KZ1W On 7/14/2016 7:24 AM, Gary Marks

Re: Topband: aluminum "penetrating oil"

2016-08-01 Thread Grant Saviers
I've been using PB Blaster penetrating oil with good success. Since you know there are Penetrox particles (it is zinc dust plus castor oil per the MSDS) between the tubes, I'd try to wick some PB in there, let it sit for a while and then work it back and forth to loosen up the dried up

Re: Topband: Terminating resistor

2017-01-27 Thread Grant Saviers
Check out the Ohmite non-inductive 100w series http://www.ohmite.com/cat/acl_ap101.pdf Digikey stocks some values. Grant KZ1W On 1/25/2017 15:31 PM, jcjacob...@q.com wrote: How do, Where can you obtain, at a reasonable price, a high wattage, non-inductive, resistor for a terminated

Re: Topband: 75 ohm RG6 to 50 Ohm radio

2016-09-28 Thread Grant Saviers
One thing that W8JI clarified for me in winding binocular cores is what is a "turn". Normally, a wire thru a toroid hole is a "turn". A binocular core is two toroids in a single piece of ferrite. Tom proposed calling a wire in one side of a binocular core a "pass" and thru both sides a

Re: Topband: 160 m inverted L

2016-11-08 Thread Grant Saviers
Agree. I use three fixed serial caps with shorting relays to tune my 160m T, 8 elevated 125' radials, across the full band in 45KHz segments. The antenna is cut for 1820 and fed with a 50::25 TLT. The voltages across each cap (3 all the same value) is well below 400v at QRO so I used

Re: Topband: RBOG - wire fence

2016-11-23 Thread Grant Saviers
My experience with a 600' regular Bev 6' over a 5 wire barb wire fence was not good. Modeling also showed it had little directivity. A solution in the modeling was to insulate all wires every 150', segmenting it into 4 x 150' fences. Wires beyond the Bev ends could be continuous any length.

Re: Topband: 80m rotatable dipole load coil questions

2016-10-11 Thread Grant Saviers
From a coil loaded 80m 2L yagi (bought JKantennas) and 80m rotatable dipole I built and reading here are some thoughts. My rotatable 80m Tornado loaded 86' dipole at 100' doesn't have much of a pattern, height is everything and at about 130' or so they really start to play. The beam is at

Re: Topband: Inverted L Radials

2016-12-01 Thread Grant Saviers
As you were disconnecting the radials the ground losses were increasing until it got to enough ohms and you had a good match at 50ohms. My 160 T matches 25 ohms 1.12:1 at 1812Khz and is fed with a 50:25 transmission line transformer. With 8x 125' elevated radials the N6LF research shows I

Re: Topband: Radials question

2017-06-13 Thread Grant Saviers
The larger the diameter of the antenna, the broader the bandwidth. So an aluminum self supporting vertical that starts with 3" diameter tubing (the HD DXE starts with 4") can have twice the intrinsic bandwidth of 16ga wire. It also gets a bit shorter for same resonance frequency. I had a

Re: Topband: Top loaded vertical help,

2017-09-05 Thread Grant Saviers
With 75' of vertical you have 56% of a 1/4wl which is about the net vertical dimension of my T with elevated radials. My 2 top wires are about 36' long, ultimately they were cut to get a 25 ohm resonance around 1810KHz. The antenna has about 70 KHz of 2:1 swr bandwidth. I use a commercial

Topband: 4sq receive antenna side filters?

2017-09-11 Thread Grant Saviers
I was asked by a DXpedition leader if it was practical to bandpass filter the input (antenna side) of the DX Engineering 4 sq's they plan to use (I have one). Given the few acres of the island and 5 feet ASL there isn't space to get adequate antenna separation and of course both transmit

Re: Topband: FT8 on 160m

2017-11-27 Thread Grant Saviers
My WSTJ waterfall shows about 50Hz bandwidth for ft8 signals. In "band plan" theory the ft8 segment is 1840 to 1842.5. However, many rigs won't pass audio much below 300Hz and may not above 2.5KHz. I run "wide open" DSP on my Pro3 so see to 3Khz. Above 2.6Khz there are few ft8 signals to

Re: Topband: FT-8 question

2017-12-06 Thread Grant Saviers
Hi Jim, Well, yes on the 5 acres, but still suburban. But, I do notice that FT8 on the vertical 160 T often decodes as well as my DXE 4 sq receive which has directivity and thus less noise. Same comment from another op here locally. I don't see any advantage to subsegment filtering, and in

Re: Topband: FT8.

2017-10-25 Thread Grant Saviers
10/25/2017 20:15 PM, JC wrote: there is no human intervention on FT8 after the first click. Not in my experience with FT8. Crowded bands, DX with poor ears, callers on the DX frequency all make it a challenge for other than the casual CQ response. The GUI is hard to use when the list

Re: Topband: cutting coax stubs for 80 meter 4-square

2018-06-11 Thread Grant Saviers
On a couple of DXpeditions we damaged the front end of a couple of analyzers by transmitting on a nearby antenna on a different band so this is another hazard to be aware of. Grant KZ1W On 6/11/2018 10:14 AM, terry burge wrote: Jim, There is room that the 0.01-0.02uF cap could go in. Due to

Re: Topband: Adding chicken wire or mesh on top of radial field

2018-06-04 Thread Grant Saviers
For simulating a solid conducting plate in NEC with wires, Roy Lewallen (EZNEC author) advises 0.1 wavelength on a side squares of wires. That would be 16m for topband. Since adding the mesh is a search for tenths more db's, be conservative and use half his recommendation, 8m or 25'. If a

Re: Topband: Adding chicken wire or mesh on top of radial field

2018-06-04 Thread Grant Saviers
It is well known by DXpeditioners and an EZNEC analysis demonstrates that verticals within 1 wavelength of the sea have greatly enhanced gain at low elevation angles in the seaward direction. There is no need for the antenna to be over water for that benefit. In the opposite direction the

Re: Topband: Adding chicken wire or mesh on top of radial field

2018-06-05 Thread Grant Saviers
JC, Have you read the papers I cited? Looked at numerous reports from DXpeditions and several antenna experts re the performance of verticals NEAR salt water? google "vertical antenna near salt water" for a longer list of references re a well proven fact. Grant KZ1W On 6/5/2018 4:34

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