Re: Topband: RHR

[Roger D Johnson]

Just wondering what provisions have been made if a drunk operator gets on
the remote station and wreaks havoc or if a remote transmitter malfunctions
and starts spewing garbage?

73, Roger N1RJ

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Re: Topband: RHR

[Steve Baughn]

I thought the moderator had asked that we move on from this topic. 


Steve, WD8NPL

-Original Message- 
From: Roger D Johnson 
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:22 AM 
To: TOPBAND@CONTESTING.COM 
Subject: Re: Topband: RHR 


Just wondering what provisions have been made if a drunk operator gets on
the remote station and wreaks havoc or if a remote transmitter malfunctions
and starts spewing garbage?

73, Roger N1RJ

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Topband: RHR

[Ron Spencer]

I don't get it. WHY do you care? How does what the operators that use
them do  affect you? How does it affect your ability to work a
station? What possible difference does it make in how you use this
hobby? If the operators beat you in a contest so what? YOU know what
you did and how you did it and should take pride in YOUR success.

For me, this is a HOBBY. It should be fun! I find enjoyment in my
operating successes. If someone with a better station, like W8JI or
W4ZV, work DX I can't hear I don't get upset with them. I wonder how I
can improve MY station to be better.

Ron
N4XD
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Re: Topband: RHR

[Mike Waters]

Very well said indeed, Ron!

73, Mike
www.w0btu.com

On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Ron Spencer 
wrote:

> I don't get it. WHY do you care? How does what the operators that use
> them do  affect you? How does it affect your ability to work a
> station? What possible difference does it make in how you use this
> hobby? If the operators beat you in a contest so what? YOU know what
> you did and how you did it and should take pride in YOUR success.
>
> For me, this is a HOBBY. It should be fun! I find enjoyment in my
> operating successes. If someone with a better station, like W8JI or
> W4ZV, work DX I can't hear I don't get upset with them. I wonder how I
> can improve MY station to be better.
>
> Ron
> N4XD
>
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Re: Topband: RHR

[James Bennett]

Well, if I work 100 countries using a low antenna and QRP, I'm proud of hanging 
that DXCC certificate on my wall, and telling any guest in my shack how I got 
it. How about if ARRL just issues a DXCC certificate to every ham who has a 
license? How would that make you feel if your guest says "oh yeah, I got one of 
those DXCC thingys in the mail along with my first QST magazine." I don't have 
a problem with the big guys running gigantic antennas and KW stations - I say 
well done. But to live (for example) on the west coast and use a remote station 
in Maine, and then get your DXCC certificate based on those contacts ALONG WITH 
those made from the west coast - it just lowers the "quality" of the award.

If you live in an "antenna restricted" or prohibited QTH, well life is tough. I 
am in one of those areas and still manage to get stealth / invisible antennas 
put up. Do I have a 150 foot tower, five mile long Beverages, 2 KW amp? No. Can 
I work DX with my wire antennas? Sure. I won't ever be on the Honor Roll, and 
I'm OK with that - there are a lot of other ways to enjoy this hobby, and I 
mean A LOT.

My feeling is that this award should be governed by a rule similar to Worked 
All States - all contacts must be worked from a station or stations no more 
than 50 miles from each other.

Anyway, I've heard these arguments about RHR for months and am pretty sick of 
it all. Yes, I can hit the delete key and set up an email rule for deleting the 
messages, but it does get tiring, as the subject line morphs now and then. I 
also subscribe to the Elecraft reflector and I can tell you that threads like 
this would have been ended long ago by the moderators. 

It should be a place to exchange information related to equipment, propagation, 
antennas, etc. - not a continual gripe session about perceived cheating or not 
cheating. Good grief - give it a rest!

Jim Bennett / W6JHB
Folsom, CA

> I don't get it. WHY do you care? 
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Topband: RHR etc

[Lennart m]

Just a few comments in case you guys gone to sleep!

 

The other day Tree, N6TR/7 said he had to QRT to fix some changes to his
remote control of his base station. Hope you managed Tree and I understand
you need it during all BSNS travel flights, so far so good.

 

If, and when, I would ever dream of spending a few  bucks renting a RHR
station, e.g. W7XX to give me another DXCC that would be an entirely
different case. Paying money to rent another ham*s setup would, at least to
me, mean I would be paying for a service which would be out of my control.
It would add no joy working another and new DXCC using somebody else
equipment.  (Just a comment: and no bragging: I do not need K1N on 160 or
any other low band.

 

Furthermore I cannot understand the minds of those DQRM guys that have
showed up even on 160. Back to basics guys and please do make QSO:s the old
fashioned way.

GL with K1N or anyone else and leave at least 160 free from foolishness.

Len

SM7BIC

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Re: Topband: RHR and remote topic

[Larry Burke]

With all due respect, such complaints are really kinda sad. Considering the
long term implications, this topic is one of the more important ones
discussed here in a long time -- and there continue to be new ideas aired
this afternoon. Guess this topic has struck a raw nerve with some.

-  Larry K5RK


-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tree
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 2:07 PM
To: 160
Subject: Topband: RHR and remote topic

Guys - I think we have hashed out this subject enough for this round.
I am starting to get a lot of complaints about the topic continuing.

So - let's try to hold back on future posts unless it really moves the
discussion back to the original intent of this list.

Thanks and good luck to those trying to work K1N.

Tree N6TR
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Re: Topband: RHR and remote topic

[Joe K2UF]

Want to know what the ARRL position is.  Look at page 8 of February QST
opposite K1ZZ's 'It seems to us'.

Joe K2UF

-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Burke
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 5:09 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: RHR and remote topic

With all due respect, such complaints are really kinda sad. Considering the
long term implications, this topic is one of the more important ones
discussed here in a long time -- and there continue to be new ideas aired
this afternoon. Guess this topic has struck a raw nerve with some.

-  Larry K5RK


-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tree
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 2:07 PM
To: 160
Subject: Topband: RHR and remote topic

Guys - I think we have hashed out this subject enough for this round.
I am starting to get a lot of complaints about the topic continuing.

So - let's try to hold back on future posts unless it really moves the
discussion back to the original intent of this list.

Thanks and good luck to those trying to work K1N.

Tree N6TR
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Re: Topband: RHR and remote topic

[James Rodenkirch]

Forgot about that ad.HAHan age ol' heuristic comes to mind.money 
talks, vapor(s) walks (heuristic toned down for the PC/squishy crowd) 
 
 From: j...@k2uf.com
 To: w...@sbcglobal.net; topband@contesting.com
 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 17:22:37 -0500
 Subject: Re: Topband: RHR and remote topic
 
 Want to know what the ARRL position is.  Look at page 8 of February QST
 opposite K1ZZ's 'It seems to us'.
 
 Joe K2UF
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Larry
 Burke
 Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 5:09 PM
 To: topband@contesting.com
 Subject: Re: Topband: RHR and remote topic
 
 With all due respect, such complaints are really kinda sad. Considering the
 long term implications, this topic is one of the more important ones
 discussed here in a long time -- and there continue to be new ideas aired
 this afternoon. Guess this topic has struck a raw nerve with some.
 
 -  Larry K5RK
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tree
 Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 2:07 PM
 To: 160
 Subject: Topband: RHR and remote topic
 
 Guys - I think we have hashed out this subject enough for this round.
 I am starting to get a lot of complaints about the topic continuing.
 
 So - let's try to hold back on future posts unless it really moves the
 discussion back to the original intent of this list.
 
 Thanks and good luck to those trying to work K1N.
 
 Tree N6TR
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Re: Topband: RHR and remote topic

[James Rodenkirch]

I agree, Larry..however, I doubt if anyone is refereeing or taking good 
notes as to separating wheat from chaffand, THEN, where does the 
accumulated, condensed and vetted idea(s) (hopefully not more than a couple) 
go
 
In short - we all need a plan as to how to get the ideas winnowed down and on 
to someone who with influence, throw or weightdon't see no stinkin' plan(s) 
being tossed out for consumption and digestion... 
 
72, Jim Rodenkirch K9JWV 

 
 From: w...@sbcglobal.net
 To: topband@contesting.com
 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 16:08:48 -0600
 Subject: Re: Topband: RHR and remote topic
 
 With all due respect, such complaints are really kinda sad. Considering the
 long term implications, this topic is one of the more important ones
 discussed here in a long time -- and there continue to be new ideas aired
 this afternoon. Guess this topic has struck a raw nerve with some.
 
 -  Larry K5RK
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tree
 Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 2:07 PM
 To: 160
 Subject: Topband: RHR and remote topic
 
 Guys - I think we have hashed out this subject enough for this round.
 I am starting to get a lot of complaints about the topic continuing.
 
 So - let's try to hold back on future posts unless it really moves the
 discussion back to the original intent of this list.
 
 Thanks and good luck to those trying to work K1N.
 
 Tree N6TR
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Topband: RHR and remote topic

[Tree]

Guys - I think we have hashed out this subject enough for this round.
I am starting to get a lot of complaints about the topic continuing.

So - let's try to hold back on future posts unless it really moves the
discussion back to the original intent of this list.

Thanks and good luck to those trying to work K1N.

Tree N6TR
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Topband: RHR

[HAROLD SMITH JR]

Good evening All.

If someone wants to do it this way, well why not. 

I am on the top of the Honor-Roll 379 confrmd and all were worked within a 15 
mile area. I have 192 confirmed on 160. DXCC on 7 Bands. All from a 90 X 140 
foot lot. Only RX antenna on 160 is a homemade loop, Xmit antenna on RX is 
S9+10dB noise. We have lived here for 47 years and love our house. First 
license was class B in 1950 and then class A in 1951. Extra in 1968.

73 Price W0RI 

ps. I need Navassa onlu on 40 and 17 meters, so I won't call them.
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