Re: [tor-bugs] #25926 [Metrics/Website]: "The anonymous Internet" page on metrics has malicious looking links

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#25926: "The anonymous Internet" page on metrics has malicious looking links
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 Reporter:  pastly   |  Owner:  metrics-team
 Type:  defect   | Status:  closed
 Priority:  High |  Milestone:
Component:  Metrics/Website  |Version:
 Severity:  Major| Resolution:  fixed
 Keywords:   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Changes (by karsten):

 * status:  needs_information => closed
 * resolution:   => fixed


Comment:

 There, put the ''updated'' link back to the page. Let's discuss moving the
 link elsewhere on #24422. Closing. Thanks for all the input!

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Re: [tor-bugs] #25926 [Metrics/Website]: "The anonymous Internet" page on metrics has malicious looking links

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#25926: "The anonymous Internet" page on metrics has malicious looking links
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 Reporter:  pastly   |  Owner:  metrics-team
 Type:  defect   | Status:  needs_information
 Priority:  High |  Milestone:
Component:  Metrics/Website  |Version:
 Severity:  Major| Resolution:
 Keywords:   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Comment (by karsten):

 I'm open to the idea of moving this page to another area of the website.
 When we added the page, those other areas of the website did not exist,
 and it made ''some'' sense to create link pages just as we had graph pages
 or table pages. But we should reconsider this, now that the website has
 evolved quite a bit. Do you mind doing that as part of #24422?

 I'm now going to put the link back, but without the archived version.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #25926 [Metrics/Website]: "The anonymous Internet" page on metrics has malicious looking links

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#25926: "The anonymous Internet" page on metrics has malicious looking links
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 Reporter:  pastly   |  Owner:  metrics-team
 Type:  defect   | Status:  needs_information
 Priority:  High |  Milestone:
Component:  Metrics/Website  |Version:
 Severity:  Major| Resolution:
 Keywords:   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Comment (by irl):

 When I was looking at this for #24422, I was considering moving this to
 another area of the website to make it clear that this is external and not
 part of Tor Metrics. We can add a disclaimer there that we are not
 responsible for the content of external websites. As the website was
 restored, it is clearly something that is "maintained" and so there is no
 need here to link to an archived version in my opinion.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #25926 [Metrics/Website]: "The anonymous Internet" page on metrics has malicious looking links

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#25926: "The anonymous Internet" page on metrics has malicious looking links
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 Reporter:  pastly   |  Owner:  metrics-team
 Type:  defect   | Status:  needs_information
 Priority:  High |  Milestone:
Component:  Metrics/Website  |Version:
 Severity:  Major| Resolution:
 Keywords:   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Comment (by pastly):

 Replying to [comment:5 cypherpunks]:
 > Replying to [comment:4 pastly]:
 > > Providing an archived link right next to it would be a nice and easy
 plus.
 > Why not to provide only an archived link with a specific date in which
 the URL is known to not be malicious
 `https://web.archive.org/web/2018/...`?

 I think places generally deserve to receive traffic directly so that
 visitors can continue on exploring their website if desired. Linking to
 them **only** via an archived link raises the bar too much IMHO.


 -

 karsten,  it helps, I archived the page today. https://archive.fo/LfJ7D

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Re: [tor-bugs] #25926 [Metrics/Website]: "The anonymous Internet" page on metrics has malicious looking links

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#25926: "The anonymous Internet" page on metrics has malicious looking links
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 Reporter:  pastly   |  Owner:  metrics-team
 Type:  defect   | Status:  needs_information
 Priority:  High |  Milestone:
Component:  Metrics/Website  |Version:
 Severity:  Major| Resolution:
 Keywords:   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Comment (by cypherpunks):

 Replying to [comment:4 pastly]:
 > Providing an archived link right next to it would be a nice and easy
 plus.
 Why not to provide only an archived link with a specific date in which the
 URL is known to not be malicious
 `https://web.archive.org/web/2018/...`?

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Re: [tor-bugs] #25926 [Metrics/Website]: "The anonymous Internet" page on metrics has malicious looking links

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#25926: "The anonymous Internet" page on metrics has malicious looking links
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 Reporter:  pastly   |  Owner:  metrics-team
 Type:  defect   | Status:  needs_information
 Priority:  High |  Milestone:
Component:  Metrics/Website  |Version:
 Severity:  Major| Resolution:
 Keywords:   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Comment (by pastly):

 I think it would be fine to add the link back to the metrics page.

 It seems they have changed the URL for "The Anonymous Internet" to
 http://geography.oii.ox.ac.uk/the-anonymous-internet/, so I'd probably
 link to that instead.

 I think just linking to the OII page again is reasonable. Providing an
 archived link right next to it would be a nice and easy plus.

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Re: [tor-bugs] #25926 [Metrics/Website]: "The anonymous Internet" page on metrics has malicious looking links

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#25926: "The anonymous Internet" page on metrics has malicious looking links
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 Reporter:  pastly   |  Owner:  metrics-team
 Type:  defect   | Status:  needs_information
 Priority:  High |  Milestone:
Component:  Metrics/Website  |Version:
 Severity:  Major| Resolution:
 Keywords:   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Comment (by karsten):

 It seems like the OII site is not hacked anymore. Should we put the link
 back? After all, the link is what this page is for, not the low-resolution
 preview image.

 pastly, what's your intuition here?

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Re: [tor-bugs] #25926 [Metrics/Website]: "The anonymous Internet" page on metrics has malicious looking links

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#25926: "The anonymous Internet" page on metrics has malicious looking links
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 Reporter:  pastly   |  Owner:  metrics-team
 Type:  defect   | Status:  needs_information
 Priority:  High |  Milestone:
Component:  Metrics/Website  |Version:
 Severity:  Major| Resolution:
 Keywords:   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Changes (by karsten):

 * status:  new => needs_information


Comment:

 Huh, unexpected. Well, I took out the link until OII have resolved this
 issue. I'd like to put it back afterwards, though. We'll see. Leaving this
 ticket open for now. Thanks for the report!

 (Sounds like it's time to think about adding an "External Link" page with
 a big warning...)

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Re: [tor-bugs] #25926 [Metrics/Website]: "The anonymous Internet" page on metrics has malicious looking links

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#25926: "The anonymous Internet" page on metrics has malicious looking links
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 Reporter:  pastly   |  Owner:  metrics-team
 Type:  defect   | Status:  new
 Priority:  High |  Milestone:
Component:  Metrics/Website  |Version:
 Severity:  Major| Resolution:
 Keywords:   |  Actual Points:
Parent ID:   | Points:
 Reviewer:   |Sponsor:
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Comment (by pastly):

 Here is what the link used to lead to. https://archive.fo/TSnfx

 You can also find it in the wayback machine.
 https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://geography.oii.ox.ac.uk/?page=tor

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