Re: [tor-dev] Quantum-safe Hybrid handshake for Tor

2016-01-02 Thread Henry de Valence
On 12/28/2015 11:34 PM, Zhenfei Zhang wrote: 1.2 Motivation: Disaster resilience We are really trying to protect against the disastrous situation of one key being entirely compromised. By introducing a second cryptographic primitive, namely, NTRUEncrypt, we ensure that the

Re: [tor-dev] trac account 'proper' - Full Disclosure

2016-01-02 Thread isis
Patrick Schleizer transcribed 0.9K bytes: > Hi, > > I've learned that using the trac account 'proper' [1] has lead to some > confusion and/or curiosity. That account name is really old, it's been > created while I was still anonymous. > > Tickets created by the trac account are created by me,

[tor-dev] trac account 'proper' - Full Disclosure

2016-01-02 Thread Patrick Schleizer
Hi, I've learned that using the trac account 'proper' [1] has lead to some confusion and/or curiosity. That account name is really old, it's been created while I was still anonymous. Tickets created by the trac account are created by me, Patrick Schleizer, nickname adrelanos. The arguments made

Re: [tor-dev] Quantum-safe Hybrid handshake for Tor

2016-01-02 Thread Jesse V
On 01/02/2016 01:49 PM, Flipchan wrote: > How would u add quantum-safe > crypto? I havent seen anyone puttin a pub lib that anyone can import Here's a webpage, a paper, and software from djb: http://sphincs.cr.yp.to/ This is of course one example, there are other works on post-quantum

Re: [tor-dev] Quantum-safe Hybrid handshake for Tor

2016-01-02 Thread Ryan Carboni
And yet the NSA is moving to prime numbers. A large public key isn't a very good reason to not adopt quantum-safe crypto, it just means that it requires having the Tor project to be able to scale to a larger degree. I suggest hash tables, a percentage of which are pseudorandomly downloaded.

Re: [tor-dev] tor-dev Digest, Vol 60, Issue 2

2016-01-02 Thread Flipchan
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Re: [tor-dev] Quantum-safe Hybrid handshake for Tor

2016-01-02 Thread Tim Wilson-Brown - teor
> On 3 Jan 2016, at 12:18, Ryan Carboni wrote: > > And yet the NSA is moving to prime numbers. > > A large public key isn't a very good reason to not adopt quantum-safe crypto, > it just means that it requires having the Tor project to be able to scale to > a larger degree.

Re: [tor-dev] Quantum-safe Hybrid handshake for Tor

2016-01-02 Thread Tim Wilson-Brown - teor
> On 3 Jan 2016, at 11:11, Jesse V wrote: > > On 01/02/2016 01:49 PM, Flipchan wrote: >> How would u add quantum-safe >> crypto? I havent seen anyone puttin a pub lib that anyone can import > > Here's a webpage, a paper, and software from djb: > http://sphincs.cr.yp.to/

Re: [tor-dev] Quantum-safe Hybrid handshake for Tor

2016-01-02 Thread Tim Wilson-Brown - teor
> On 3 Jan 2016, at 14:12, Jesse V wrote: > > On 01/02/2016 05:42 PM, Tim Wilson-Brown - teor wrote: >> And if we can't use the reference implementation, we have some decent >> programmers… >> (On the other hand, if there's no reference implementation, then that >> makes

Re: [tor-dev] Quantum-safe Hybrid handshake for Tor

2016-01-02 Thread Yawning Angel
On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 17:18:56 -0800 Ryan Carboni wrote: > And yet the NSA is moving to prime numbers. So? In terms of prioritization, ensuring all existing traffic isn't subject to later decryption is far more important that defending against targeted active attacks that

Re: [tor-dev] Quantum-safe Hybrid handshake for Tor

2016-01-02 Thread Jesse V
On 01/02/2016 05:42 PM, Tim Wilson-Brown - teor wrote: > And if we can't use the reference implementation, we have some decent > programmers… > (On the other hand, if there's no reference implementation, then that > makes it hard to recommend that particular crypto scheme.) That sounds pretty