Re: [tor-dev] Proposal 320: Removing TAP usage from v2 onion services

2020-05-29 Thread David Goulet
On 19 May (13:55:37), Nick Mathewson wrote: > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:09 AM David Goulet wrote: > > > > On 11 May (16:47:53), Nick Mathewson wrote: [snip] > > So thus, I personally will argue that moving v2 to ntor is really not the > > right thing to do. Onion service v2 are, at this point

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal 320: Removing TAP usage from v2 onion services

2020-05-19 Thread Sebastian Hahn
Hi there, > On 19. May 2020, at 19:55, Nick Mathewson wrote: > If we do decide to finally deprecate v2 onion services, that would be > a significant maintenance burden reduced for us, but we'd have to > handle the transition carefully. Unlike all the other migrations > we've done, there isn't a

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal 320: Removing TAP usage from v2 onion services

2020-05-19 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:09 AM David Goulet wrote: > > On 11 May (16:47:53), Nick Mathewson wrote: > > Hello! > > > ``` > > Filename: 320-tap-out-again.md > > Title: Removing TAP usage from v2 onion services > > Author: Nick Mathewson > > Created: 11 May 2020 > > Status: Open > > ``` > > > >

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal 320: Removing TAP usage from v2 onion services

2020-05-19 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 8:52 PM teor wrote: > > Hi Nick, > > > On 12 May 2020, at 06:48, Nick Mathewson wrote: > > > > ## Migration steps > > > > First, we implement all of the above, but set it to be disabled by > > default. We use torrc fields to selectively enable them for testing > >

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal 320: Removing TAP usage from v2 onion services

2020-05-13 Thread Paul Syverson
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:46:42AM +1000, teor wrote: > Hi Nick, > > > On 14 May 2020, at 00:09, David Goulet wrote: > > > > On 11 May (16:47:53), Nick Mathewson wrote: > > > >> ``` > >> Filename: 320-tap-out-again.md > >> Title: Removing TAP usage from v2 onion services > >> Author: Nick

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal 320: Removing TAP usage from v2 onion services

2020-05-13 Thread s7r
Nick Mathewson wrote: > ``` > Filename: 320-tap-out-again.md > Title: Removing TAP usage from v2 onion services > Author: Nick Mathewson > Created: 11 May 2020 > Status: Open > ``` > > (This proposal is part of the Walking Onions spec project. It updates > proposal 245.) > > # Removing TAP

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal 320: Removing TAP usage from v2 onion services

2020-05-13 Thread teor
Hi Nick, > On 14 May 2020, at 00:09, David Goulet wrote: > > On 11 May (16:47:53), Nick Mathewson wrote: > >> ``` >> Filename: 320-tap-out-again.md >> Title: Removing TAP usage from v2 onion services >> Author: Nick Mathewson >> Created: 11 May 2020 >> Status: Open >> ``` >> >> (This

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal 320: Removing TAP usage from v2 onion services

2020-05-13 Thread David Goulet
On 11 May (16:47:53), Nick Mathewson wrote: Hello! > ``` > Filename: 320-tap-out-again.md > Title: Removing TAP usage from v2 onion services > Author: Nick Mathewson > Created: 11 May 2020 > Status: Open > ``` > > (This proposal is part of the Walking Onions spec project. It updates > proposal

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal 320: Removing TAP usage from v2 onion services

2020-05-11 Thread teor
Hi Nick, > On 12 May 2020, at 06:48, Nick Mathewson wrote: > > ## Migration steps > > First, we implement all of the above, but set it to be disabled by > default. We use torrc fields to selectively enable them for testing > purposes, to make sure they work. Can you expand on the testing

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal 320: Removing TAP usage from v2 onion services

2020-05-11 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 5:58 PM Ian Goldberg wrote: > > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 04:47:53PM -0400, Nick Mathewson wrote: > > ## INTRODUCE cells, RENDEZVOUS cells, and ntor. > > > > We allow clients to specify the rendezvous point's ntor key in the > > INTRODUCE2 cell instead of the TAP key. To do

Re: [tor-dev] Proposal 320: Removing TAP usage from v2 onion services

2020-05-11 Thread Ian Goldberg
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 04:47:53PM -0400, Nick Mathewson wrote: > ## INTRODUCE cells, RENDEZVOUS cells, and ntor. > > We allow clients to specify the rendezvous point's ntor key in the > INTRODUCE2 cell instead of the TAP key. To do this, the client > simply sets KLEN to 32, and includes the