Re: [tor-dev] next globe update feedback

2013-11-18 Thread Karsten Loesing
On 11/8/13 2:59 AM, Matthew Finkel wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 03:33:23PM -0500, m...@rndm.de wrote:
 I also added relay family links. While working on this feature I noticed 
 that the onionoo family field can return fingerprints of bridges.
 I modified the way the relay details route works and now it checks if 
 the api returns a valid relay. If this isn't the case it checks for a 
 bridge and redirects to its detail page.
 (for example TorLand2 has a bridge in its family members field and 
 clicking on the fingerprint throws an error on atlas)

 If this behavior is wrong or something is missing just tell me.
 
 Well, that's one place I didn't think to look for leaking bridge
 fingerprints. At this point there is no way to retrieve a bridge's IP
 address and port number using its fingerprint, right? And, considering the
 default torrc does say: However, you should never include a bridge's
 fingerprint here, as it would break its concealability and potentionally
 reveal its IP/TCP address. I really don't know how else to prevent
 this. Onionoo could do extra processing to prevent leaking these
 bridges, but I'm not sure that's a good way to do it.

Onionoo does not sanitize any information from relay or bridge
descriptors.  Onionoo processes publicly available information from
metrics, so whatever is sensitive in there is already available to
whoever wants to use it.  Onionoo only makes it more convenient for
people to use this information.

Metrics does not sanitize relay descriptors, only bridge descriptors.
Whatever people put in their relay configuration and that goes into
relay descriptors will be made public.

 On another note, globe looks awesome! Thanks you!

Very true.  Thanks, Christian!

All the best,
Karsten

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Re: [tor-dev] next globe update feedback

2013-11-07 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 03:33:23PM -0500, m...@rndm.de wrote:
  
  If there isn't anything wrong, I will release it to the regular globe 
  url.
 
 I deployed the latest globe version on http://globe.rndm.de/ .
 
 The jshint code quality check was replaced with latest eslint version 
 that works without jshint.
 Aside from the already mentioned changes I fixed the bridge/relay detail 
 page if no detail document was found.
 
 I also added relay family links. While working on this feature I noticed 
 that the onionoo family field can return fingerprints of bridges.
 I modified the way the relay details route works and now it checks if 
 the api returns a valid relay. If this isn't the case it checks for a 
 bridge and redirects to its detail page.
 (for example TorLand2 has a bridge in its family members field and 
 clicking on the fingerprint throws an error on atlas)
 
 If this behavior is wrong or something is missing just tell me.

Well, that's one place I didn't think to look for leaking bridge
fingerprints. At this point there is no way to retrieve a bridge's IP
address and port number using its fingerprint, right? And, considering the
default torrc does say: However, you should never include a bridge's
fingerprint here, as it would break its concealability and potentionally
reveal its IP/TCP address. I really don't know how else to prevent
this. Onionoo could do extra processing to prevent leaking these
bridges, but I'm not sure that's a good way to do it.

On another note, globe looks awesome! Thanks you!
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Re: [tor-dev] next globe update feedback

2013-11-05 Thread Lunar
Philipp Winter:
 On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 11:23:18AM -0800, Damian Johnson wrote:
  I worked on a new update for globe...
 
  Damn this is awesome! I'm tempted to link to this from our front page
  (replacing Tor Browser in the project matrix on www.torproject.org,
  since TBB is already the featured item on the download page).
 
 Actually, it should rather replace Atlas.  It no longer has an active
 maintainer (Karsten and I are just trying to keep it alive and fix small bugs)
 and is still not able to display bridge information.  Maybe it's time to 
 retire
 Atlas in favour of Globe?

Quoting Karsten last July: “However, I don't have plans to retire Atlas
just yet. I think it's fine to have more than one website providing
access to Onionoo data. Yay, diversity.”
https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2013-July/005122.html

But the situation might have changed since then.

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Lunar lu...@torproject.org


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Re: [tor-dev] next globe update feedback

2013-11-04 Thread Philipp Winter
On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 11:23:18AM -0800, Damian Johnson wrote:
 I worked on a new update for globe...

 Damn this is awesome! I'm tempted to link to this from our front page
 (replacing Tor Browser in the project matrix on www.torproject.org,
 since TBB is already the featured item on the download page).

Actually, it should rather replace Atlas.  It no longer has an active
maintainer (Karsten and I are just trying to keep it alive and fix small bugs)
and is still not able to display bridge information.  Maybe it's time to retire
Atlas in favour of Globe?

Cheers,
Philipp
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[tor-dev] next globe update feedback

2013-11-03 Thread me

Hi there,

I worked on a new update for globe. This update addresses some features 
that were missing or not possible in the current version of globe ( 
http://globe.rndm.de/ ).


These changes include:
- fixed minification process to allow usage of the ember production 
build

- removed unnecessary whitespace on top of the page
- modified loading indicator
- added subpages

Because this update includes some major ui changes, I would like to get 
some feedback on it.

You find the latest version on http://globe.rndm.de/lab/

Cheers,
Christian
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Re: [tor-dev] next globe update feedback

2013-11-03 Thread Justin Bull
On 2013-11-03, at 1:47 PM, m...@rndm.de wrote:

 Changed it and it should work now.

This may be more nit-pickery, but for each view: Top 10 relays, Help, and Code, 
have them apply an `.active` class of the same style as `:hover` when you're 
presently viewing it. In other words, it shows the tab in purple when its 
corresponding page is being displayed.

Feel free to ignore :-)

Justin Bull
m...@justinbull.ca

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Re: [tor-dev] next globe update feedback

2013-11-03 Thread Damian Johnson
 I worked on a new update for globe...

Damn this is awesome! I'm tempted to link to this from our front page
(replacing Tor Browser in the project matrix on www.torproject.org,
since TBB is already the featured item on the download page).

Mike, Roger, etc: Any objections?

Christian: Pity it doesn't have a valid cert. It would be nice if it
defaulted to SSL.

Cheers! -Damian
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Re: [tor-dev] next globe update feedback

2013-11-03 Thread Damian Johnson
 : Damn this is awesome! I'm tempted to link to this from our front page
 : (replacing Tor Browser in the project matrix on www.torproject.org,
 : since TBB is already the featured item on the download page).
 :
 : Mike, Roger, etc: Any objections?

 TBB should stay where it is. Maybe feature this globe app from the
 metrics page.

Metrics is a site for researchers. Globe is a client application akin
to Atlas. They're different audiences. I still like the idea of
replacing TBB on the front page because, of the things we list,
including it there offers no value to visitors (it's already the
primary thing we vend). That said, this might be a moot discussion
until we sort out the second bit...

 : Christian: Pity it doesn't have a valid cert. It would be nice if it
 : defaulted to SSL.

 Can we run the code somewhere rather than on a 3rd party server?

Christian suggested hosting it on TPO infrastructure elsewhere on this
thread too. Sounds like a discussion that should move onto a ticket.
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