Re: [tor-dev] Tor Messenger recent IRC re-topic.

[Beard CryptoWorld]

Hello,

Alright thanks for this. We'll do a mix bag here.

We felt that just having attached docs isn't going to cut it since we do 
have existing tech for this.

So here are some Github Links

Updated Version 2 URL: https://github.com/crypto-world/quik/tree/v2-rew
v2-Spec sheet URL: 
https://github.com/crypto-world/quik/blob/v2-rew/v2-Spec.txt


We've been messing with this idea for a while now, and we feel that 
something like this needs to come out. We're a small tight knit team 
with core aligned values as Orgs like The Tor Project, and the EFF, and 
with that we're looking to "partner up" with said Org's.


If The Tor Project or the EFF would like to partner up on this we'd be 
stoked.

Please let us know if you have any questions or concerns.

Thank you,
~ beard



On 05/07/2018 07:04 AM, Sukhbir Singh wrote:

Hi,


Hello Everyone,

We briefly talked about this idea of taking over Tor Messenger, a long with
our own ideas and were asked to mail in some Documentation/Roadmaps. I'm
asking in what form would you guys like to see this in?

Basically:

Would you like us to add a .txt as an attachment in a follow up email?
Or would it be better to host the files on our site, and allow people to
read without subject to downloading anything?

You can email the proposal to the mailing list.

Thanks,



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Re: [tor-dev] Tor Messenger recent IRC re-topic.

[Sukhbir Singh]

Hi,

> Hello Everyone,
> 
> We briefly talked about this idea of taking over Tor Messenger, a long with
> our own ideas and were asked to mail in some Documentation/Roadmaps. I'm
> asking in what form would you guys like to see this in?
> 
> Basically:
> 
> Would you like us to add a .txt as an attachment in a follow up email?
> Or would it be better to host the files on our site, and allow people to
> read without subject to downloading anything?

You can email the proposal to the mailing list.

Thanks,

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[tor-dev] Tor Messenger recent IRC re-topic.

[Beard CryptoWorld]

Hello Everyone,

We briefly talked about this idea of taking over Tor Messenger, a long 
with our own ideas and were asked to mail in some 
Documentation/Roadmaps. I'm asking in what form would you guys like to 
see this in?


Basically:

Would you like us to add a .txt as an attachment in a follow up email?
Or would it be better to host the files on our site, and allow people to 
read without subject to downloading anything?


Thank you,
~ Beard | https://twitter.com/beardlyness

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Re: [tor-dev] Tor Messenger

[Milan Damjanovic]

Tnx Jeremy. Im sorry for naming things wrong.
I basically want to rewrite this:
https://github.com/prof7bit/TorChat/tree/torchat_py

Cheers

On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:22 PM, Jeremy Rand  wrote:

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> > Hello,
> > I would like to ask is there any online documentation about how is
> possible
> > to transmit text messages via tor nodes?
> > I would like to [try to] rewrite the TorChat Messenger which is written
> in
> > Python 2.7 and wxPython to Python 3x and Qt.
> > I cant find any documents  how to transmit messages between two tor nodes
> > so anything would be helpful...
>
> Just FYI, TorChat and Tor Messenger are 2 different things.  TorChat is
> a long-ago-abandoned project that's somewhat similar in design to the
> still-developed project Ricochet; Tor Messenger is an Instantbird fork
> (similar to how Tor Browser is a Firefox fork).
>
> (I don't have any answer to your actual question, which I guess is about
> TorChat, hopefully someone else will chime in on that.)
>
> Cheers,
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Re: [tor-dev] Tor Messenger

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Milan Damjanovic:
> Hello,
> I would like to ask is there any online documentation about how is possible
> to transmit text messages via tor nodes?
> I would like to [try to] rewrite the TorChat Messenger which is written in
> Python 2.7 and wxPython to Python 3x and Qt.
> I cant find any documents  how to transmit messages between two tor nodes
> so anything would be helpful...

Just FYI, TorChat and Tor Messenger are 2 different things.  TorChat is
a long-ago-abandoned project that's somewhat similar in design to the
still-developed project Ricochet; Tor Messenger is an Instantbird fork
(similar to how Tor Browser is a Firefox fork).

(I don't have any answer to your actual question, which I guess is about
TorChat, hopefully someone else will chime in on that.)

Cheers,
- -- 
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Lead Application Engineer at Namecoin
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[tor-dev] Tor Messenger

[Milan Damjanovic]

Hello,
I would like to ask is there any online documentation about how is possible
to transmit text messages via tor nodes?
I would like to [try to] rewrite the TorChat Messenger which is written in
Python 2.7 and wxPython to Python 3x and Qt.
I cant find any documents  how to transmit messages between two tor nodes
so anything would be helpful...

Cheers,
Milan
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Re: [tor-dev] Tor Messenger Sources

[malte]

Hi,

Quoting AKASH DAS (2016-06-01 08:56:00)

> Can you please tell me from where and how can I install sources of tor
> messenger so that I can start building it.

As you can take from

https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorMessenger

the sources can be found under

https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor-messenger-build.git
(git clone https://git.torproject.org/tor-messenger-build.git)

and the build instructions under

https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor-messenger-build.git/tree/README


Sincerely,

Malte
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[tor-dev] Tor Messenger 0.1.0b4 is released

[Sukhbir Singh]

We are pleased to announce another public beta release of Tor Messenger. This
release addresses a number of stability and usability issues, and includes the
default bridge configurations for pluggable transports.

The initial public release [0] was a success in that it garnered a lot of
useful feedback. We tried to respond to all your concerns in the comments of
the blog post [1] but also collected and aggregated a FAQ of the most common
questions [2].

* Before Upgrading

Before upgrading to the new release, you will need to backup your OTR keys or
simply generate new ones. Please see the following steps to back them up [3].

In our eagerness to build on work done by Tor Browser, we made the decision to
store your profile directory inside the application bundle. This complicates
matters when you want to use the same accounts and keys across updates,
especially while we don't have an automatic updater [4].

Also, as was vociferously pointed out by some of our early adopters, this
probably isn't a very intuitive user experience. Copying the extracted
application to someone else's computer would unknowingly transfer your
accounts and OTR keys. It's unclear if this is commonly done and we'd love
feedback on this point to understand the urgency of the issue.

In future releases, we plan on revisiting this decision. The number one item
on our roadmap is porting Tor Browser's updater patches [5] so that keeping
Tor Messenger up-to-date is seamless and automatic. We also plan to add a UI
to make importing OTR keys and accounts from Pidgin, and other clients, as
easy as possible [6].

* Downloads

Please note that Tor Messenger is _still in beta_. The purpose of this release
is to help test the application and provide feedback. *At-risk users should
not depend on it for their privacy and safety*.

Linux (32-bit)

https://dist.torproject.org/tormessenger/0.1.0b4/tor-messenger-linux32-0.1.0b4_en-US.tar.xz

Linux (64-bit)

https://dist.torproject.org/tormessenger/0.1.0b4/tor-messenger-linux64-0.1.0b4_en-US.tar.xz

Windows

https://dist.torproject.org/tormessenger/0.1.0b4/tormessenger-install-0.1.0b4_en-US.exe

OS X (Mac)

https://dist.torproject.org/tormessenger/0.1.0b4/TorMessenger-0.1.0b4-osx64_en-US.dmg

sha256sums.txt
https://dist.torproject.org/tormessenger/0.1.0b4/sha256sums.txt

sha256sums.txt.asc
https://dist.torproject.org/tormessenger/0.1.0b4/sha256sums.txt.asc

The sha256sums.txt file containing hashes of the bundles is signed with the
key 0x6887935AB297B391 (fingerprint: 3A0B 3D84 3708 9613 6B84 5E82 6887 935A
B297 B391).

* Changelog

Here is the complete changelog since v0.1.0b2:

Tor Messenger 0.1.0b4 -- November 22 2015
  All Platforms
Bug 17492: Include default bridges configuration
Use tor and the pluggable transports from tor-browser 5.0.4
Bug 17552: Instantbird should handle XMPP message stanzas with subjects
ctypes-otr
  Bug 17539: Pass username when interpolating resent string
  Bug 15179: Add an OTR Preferences item to the Tools menu
Use the FIREFOX_42_0_RELEASE tag on mozilla-release
Use the THUNDERBIRD_42_0b2_RELEASE tag on comm-release
Bug 16489: Prevent automatic logins at startup
Update Tor Messenger logo in Tor Launcher
  Mac
Bug 16476: Themes preference is positioned incorrectly
Bug 17456: Application hang when navigating the preferences menu

Tor Messenger 0.1.0b3 -- October 30 2015
  Windows
Bug 17453: Fix Tor Messenger crash when starting up in Windows

[0] - https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-messenger-beta-chat-over-tor-easily/
[1] - 
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-messenger-beta-chat-over-tor-easily/#comments
[2] - https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorMessenger/FAQ
[3] - 
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorMessenger/FAQ#WherearemyOTRkeysstoredHowcanIpreservethemacrossupdates
[4] - https://bugs.torproject.org/13861
[5] - https://bugs.torproject.org/14388
[6] - https://bugs.torproject.org/16526

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Re: [tor-dev] Tor Messenger Beta: Chat over Tor, Easily

[Sukhbir Singh]

* Malte:

> Hell yeah! What was up with the previous (unannounced) beta version that was 
> already lying on dist.torproject.org?

We were sorting out some branding issues :) And yes, that was never announced.

> I would like to see OMEMO (based on Axolotl) get more adoption. Right now 
> Conversations is the only messenger I know which implements it, but it would 
> be cool if I could also use it with Tor Messenger. 
> http://conversations.im/omemo/

Other users also requested this, so we are tracking this at
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/17457.

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Re: [tor-dev] Tor Messenger Beta: Chat over Tor, Easily

[Sukhbir Singh]

https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/17457

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Re: [tor-dev] Tor Messenger Third Alpha

[Nicolas Vigier]

On Wed, 01 Jul 2015, Fabian Keil wrote:

 Sukhbir Singh az...@riseup.net wrote:
 
  * Feedback
  
  This is an early release and there may be serious privacy leaks and
  other issues -- please DO NOT recommend Tor Messenger to end users; this
  release is only for developers and advanced users who would like to help
  us with testing but understand the risks involved with using alpha
  software.
 
 Providing source tarballs would probably increase the number
 of test reports from platforms that aren't supported by the
 pbm.

All the scripts and sources used to build Tor Messenger are available in
this git repository:
https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor-messenger-build.git/

However, as we are cross-compiling everything from Linux, building for a
new platform is not always straightforward.

Which platform are you interested in ?



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Re: [tor-dev] Tor Messenger Third Alpha

[Fabian Keil]

Sukhbir Singh az...@riseup.net wrote:

 * Feedback
 
 This is an early release and there may be serious privacy leaks and
 other issues -- please DO NOT recommend Tor Messenger to end users; this
 release is only for developers and advanced users who would like to help
 us with testing but understand the risks involved with using alpha
 software.

Providing source tarballs would probably increase the number
of test reports from platforms that aren't supported by the
pbm.

Fabian


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Re: [tor-dev] Tor Messenger Third Alpha

[Nicolas Vigier]

On Wed, 01 Jul 2015, Fabian Keil wrote:

 Nicolas Vigier bo...@mars-attacks.org wrote:
 
  On Wed, 01 Jul 2015, Fabian Keil wrote:
  
   Sukhbir Singh az...@riseup.net wrote:
   
* Feedback

This is an early release and there may be serious privacy leaks and
other issues -- please DO NOT recommend Tor Messenger to end users;
this release is only for developers and advanced users who would
like to help us with testing but understand the risks involved with
using alpha software.
   
   Providing source tarballs would probably increase the number
   of test reports from platforms that aren't supported by the
   pbm.
  
  All the scripts and sources used to build Tor Messenger are available in
  this git repository:
  https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor-messenger-build.git/
 
 I got that, but a casual tester with a limited amount of time
 may not want to spent an unknown amount of it trying to get
 the required sources out of a non-standard build system.

Building for an unsupported platform will very likely require an
important amount of time in any case, so not recommended if you only
have a limited amount of time.



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Re: [tor-dev] Tor Messenger Third Alpha

[Fabian Keil]

Nicolas Vigier bo...@mars-attacks.org wrote:

 On Wed, 01 Jul 2015, Fabian Keil wrote:
 
  Sukhbir Singh az...@riseup.net wrote:
  
   * Feedback
   
   This is an early release and there may be serious privacy leaks and
   other issues -- please DO NOT recommend Tor Messenger to end users;
   this release is only for developers and advanced users who would
   like to help us with testing but understand the risks involved with
   using alpha software.
  
  Providing source tarballs would probably increase the number
  of test reports from platforms that aren't supported by the
  pbm.
 
 All the scripts and sources used to build Tor Messenger are available in
 this git repository:
 https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor-messenger-build.git/

I got that, but a casual tester with a limited amount of time
may not want to spent an unknown amount of it trying to get
the required sources out of a non-standard build system.

 However, as we are cross-compiling everything from Linux, building for a
 new platform is not always straightforward.

Are the steps documented somewhere?

 Which platform are you interested in ?

ElectroBSD (a FreeBSD derivative).

Fabian


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[tor-dev] Tor Messenger Third Alpha

[Sukhbir Singh]

Hi,

Tor Messenger is an instant messaging client currently under
development. It is designed to make connections using the Tor network
and will therefore be a valuable piece in the privacy-enhancing software
toolkit (web: Tor Browser, email: Thunderbird + TorBirdy, chat: Tor
Messenger.) 

Based on the Instantbird IM client, Tor Messenger:

 - sends all traffic over Tor,
 - enforces Off-the-Record Messaging (OTR) for one-on-one conversations
   by default,
 - can be used with a wide variety of chat networks,
 - has an easy-to-use graphical user interface localized into multiple
   languages.

* Current Status

Today we are releasing the third alpha version with which we hope to
gain both usability and security related feedback. There have been two
previous alpha releases to the mailling lists that have already helped
smooth out some of the rougher edges.

* What's New in Tor Messenger 0.0.6

- Support for Windows and OS X builds (in addition to Linux)
- Improved privacy and security with network and application-related
  enhancements
- Improved usability of the Instantbird OTR extension
  - Private key and known fingerprint management
- XMPP in-band account registration support
- Build localization support (currently Arabic; Chinese, Spanish, Farsi,
  and other languages coming soon)

* Bundles

Linux (32-bit):

https://people.torproject.org/~sukhbir/tor-messenger-0.0.6/tor-messenger-0.0.6-linux-i686.tar.xz

Linux (64-bit):

https://people.torproject.org/~sukhbir/tor-messenger-0.0.6/tor-messenger-0.0.6-linux-x86_64.tar.xz

Windows:

https://people.torproject.org/~sukhbir/tor-messenger-0.0.6/tor-messenger-0.0.6-windows-i686.exe

OS X:

https://people.torproject.org/~sukhbir/tor-messenger-0.0.6/tor-messenger-0.0.6-osx-x86_64.dmg

sha256sum:
https://people.torproject.org/~sukhbir/tor-messenger-0.0.6/sha256sums.txt

https://people.torproject.org/~sukhbir/tor-messenger-0.0.6/sha256sums.txt.asc

The bundles are signed with the key 0xB297B391.

* Instructions

- On Linux, extract the bundle and then run: ./start-tor-messenger.
- On OS X, copy the Tor Messenger application from the disk image to
  your local disk before running it.

On all platforms, Tor Messenger sets the profile folder to the
installation directory.

* Code

We are doing automated builds of Tor Messenger for all platforms using
rbm (Reproducible Build Manager):

https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor-messenger-build.git

* Arabic Language Pack


https://people.torproject.org/~sukhbir/tor-messenger-0.0.6/tor-messenger-ar.xpi

Install the language pack as an add-on and then set
general.useragent.locale to ar. 

(Thanks to Sherief Alaa for the translation.)

* Feedback

This is an early release and there may be serious privacy leaks and
other issues -- please DO NOT recommend Tor Messenger to end users; this
release is only for developers and advanced users who would like to help
us with testing but understand the risks involved with using alpha
software.

With this release, we invite feedback not limited to anonymity leaks,
usability issues, feature requests and suggestions for improvement.
Please submit your feedback using the bug tracker (bugs.torproject.org;
select the Tor Messenger component).  You can also talk to us on this
mailing list or on IRC.

Thanks,

Arlo Breault, Nicolas Vigier, Sukhbir Singh


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