Thanks for being the one to start on it.
I think there ought to be some specific help for people like me who want to do
the best to contribute.
I did search in many ways for hardening tips but it takes a lot of nous to make
some of the leaps expected by uber-cool-already-knowing authors
Robtex.com and traceroute came up as London if I am reading them correctly
Robert
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Someone just got 149.08 MB/s on a non-exit relay.
I would dearly love to know how to get anything over the 24 MB Australia is
limited.
How is there such speed in Liberia is another question?
Robert
https://globe.thecthulhu.com/#/relay/F528DED21EACD2E4E9301EC0AABD370EDCAD2C47
Someone
I'd be happy to sneak it onto my VPSs with help to remotely get it going via
SSH.
Rob
Dear list members,
I would like to invite any operator, who has some idle Cores (CPU or GPU)
left,to join the folding@home distributed computing project:
http://folding.stanford.edu/
There is now
A VPS in a foreign country can be very cheap hired on an annual basis.
I'm paying $14 for 5 TB a month with little trouble and nil risk.
Rob
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How many instances could this run?
Intel E3-1240 Dedicated Server Special
Server Location: Buffalo USA
Processor: Intel Xeon E3-1240 V2 3.40 GHz
HDD: 500GB 7200RPM
RAM: 16GB DDR3
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..to Tor users and the Tor system?
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I would happily chip in to a node like that.
One thing, though, about USA is their fickleness when shown a legal letter.
I increased VPSs to more than ten paid a year in advance with GreenValueHost
because they were so helpful they even reinstalled Tor and sorted some Linux
problems for me
That's a good point.
The VPS people might cooperate though and give me a new IP.
Robert
-Original Message-
I:
Unused slower middle nodes would be better turned into bridges wouldn't
they?
From: flapf...@riseup.net
I doubt that's still possible since their IP adresses
Did you have trouble reaching www.bbc.co.uk as well as iPlayer? That
would be strange. I haven't seen them block Tor relays exits simply
getting to www.bbc.co.uk.
--Matt
Matt,
Going for bbc.co.uk from Australia I was redirected to the Australian version
of bbc.com.
What does
Thomas,
That sounded so reasonable and persuasive that would it be a good idea to have
a formal opinion written to give to server companies early on?
They might still be looking at the time it takes to deal with notices or police
queries but they must accept that the risks of allowing Tor are
Thomas,
Excellent fellow!
I agree that a little more appearance of coherence would do well for us but one
great strength of such ideas as Tor is the absence of formal structure and that
should be retained.
The idea is available to be put into practice by anyone by themselves without
that meant
Being part of Tor the ideal is available to anyone just by downloading and
running it.
Robert
(you can't imagine how much I envy Roger Dingledine's clarity of expression)
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[immured to dopey snipes]
http://www.wired.com/2014/10/tiny-box-can-anonymize-everything-online/
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and if they were really into TOR why aren't they discussing it on this list?
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Could it be fast enough to be valuable?
-Original Message-From: franklincha...@gmail.comSent: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 09:32:13 +0800To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.orgSubject: [tor-relays] Nokia n900 relayHiHow to setup relay address on nokia n900?
Hej,
Reportedly Pirate Bay runs virtual machines in someone else's clouds dodging
revealing their IPs because traffic is handled by a load balancer.
Why couldn't Tor be run in China, for example, using that method as there are
cloud companies there?
Robert
and it is
possible to run and control programmes remotely so
Robert
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Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:49:36 +0200
To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org
Subject: Re: [tor-relays] VPS in China
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 02:18:48PM -0800, I wrote:
Does anyone
Hej,
Does anyone have an idea what might be done with a VPS in China?
Robert
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Hej,
Following the installation on CentOS instructions on
https://www.torproject.org/docs/rpms.html.en it appears there is no package for
CentOS 5 only 6 and 7.
http://deb-master.torproject.org/torproject.org/rpm/el/5/i386/repodatarepomd.xml:
[Errno 4] IOError: urlopen error (110,
Hej,
(With very little knowledge) I can not get Centos 6 VPS to update to the newer
version of Tor.
Would someone please help me to do that? off list of on
Robert
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Perhaps it is worth a discrete try with a reduced exit policy.
I have several VPS exits running against stated bans.
The superficial legal statements apparently are not the entire story.
Robert
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Why only one relay on a whole server?
I was thinking of doing the same but because on a dedicated server mulitple
relays and exits would be more economical than the same number of VPSs.
Robert
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I beatthebasta...@inbox.com wrote:
Why only one relay on a whole server?
I was thinking of doing the same but because on a dedicated server
mulitple relays and exits would be more economical than the same
number of VPSs.
Robert
David wrote:
What benefit would there be in running
Julien,
That is very useful and well explained.
Thank you.
Robert
The problem with Tor is the single-thread working for
encryption/relaying, so if you have a second CPU core available, may be
you can open a second Tor instance in order to use the second core
capacity.
In fact, when
Matt,
No, I mean every ab initio Tor relay operator.
From my experience getting into Tor and from watching the list it is obvious
that there is quite often a chasm between those with the goodwill to run a
relay and those confident with Linux and Tor jargon/lexicon.
Even asking questions
I would like to see that become the standard for checking newboys's relays.
It makes a lot of sense to collect the whole set of data and save tentative
questions and possibly wrong answers on this list (by well meaning people
nonetheless).
No one knows what security weaknesses exist by accident
At about 02:00 UTC June 18th 2014, changes at the domain registrar
caused the CentOS.org domain to get marked as Inactive. This caused
widespread outages, with all services in centos.org including:
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THANK YOU
That is clear and consise and well needed.
Robert
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Dear exit node operators,
Could you please recommend vps providers allowing to run tor exit nodes?
I checked many vps operators but most of them allow relays but not exit
nodes according to AUP or ToS.
I can only say I have exits running on VPSs which either had no bar to exits
So can you post some provider names?
Comsitec.de is one which is ok with exits but I have a lot of trouble getting
their attention when it stops.
It is in Germany which is much better than being in USA because the mentality
is better.
Two I have which now say exits are not accepted
Kurt Besig wrote
Your points are well taken, Robert. I'm a relative newcomer to running
a relay so unfortunately don't have the answers you seek, however I'm
in agreement that more help and less bashing is in order if the
bashers want to keep Tor alive../mini-rant
Thanks Kurt.
The original point has drifted over the horizon.
I asked what could be done, in my case, to stop SSH attacks originating FROM my
VPS which is running as an exit.
There was another VPS emanating SQL injection attacks.
The problem is that volunteering a cheap VPS to run as a Tor relay or exit
Chuck,I'm only a step ahead of you in Linux but I found it dead easy to get an exit going using the instructions at https://www.torproject.org/docs/rpms.html.en once I worked out to use /el/6/ as the distribution when the os is Centos 6.Robert
-Original Message-From: t...@bevitt.wsSent
One VPS company has just asserted that SSH scans are being run from my Tor exit rather than another process on the VPS.Is this happening to anyone else?Does anyone know what can be done to stop it?Robert
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I first thought that the numerous complaints of my VPS being the source of the
SSH (outgoing) attacks was that I hadn't done the things you suggested below
and been 'hacked' but now one VPS business has looked at the VPS processes and
said it must be coming out of Tor as I run an exit.
So I am
Scott,
What do you suggest I missed in the documentation?
Robert
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Mike,
Yes but the goal is to have more relays, exits and bridges and if commercial
server operators are very low on spine we have to keep them onside carefully.
I have just been kicked of another one after paying a year in advance.
If we have no authoritative retort when they raise the first
Jeroen,
How can the unnecessary services be disabled?
One Debian VPS is the source of SQL injection attacks and I have no idea how
that happened.
Robert
for the purpose of running tor relays I would immediately want to
change their distro to Debian.
Or easier: make a chroot
What can I do about this?The VPS business keeps saying this is reason to suspend?
Fri, 18 Apr 2014 02:05:04 -0400 VPS 11028 (192.3.42.25) has 24676 conntrack sessions
Fri, 18 Apr 2014 02:05:09 -0400 VPS 11028 (192.3.42.25) has 24648 conntrack sessions
Fri, 18 Apr 2014 02:05:14 -0400 VPS
Wow, I always thought that *was* the safe way to run arm. I wonder
where we both got the advice to do it the dangerous way.
from ARM
[ARM_NOTICE] Arm is currently running with root permissions. This is not a
good idea, and will still work perfectly well if it's run with the same user
Jesse,
What's the test that there are two instances running?
top? Are they visible in arm?
Robert
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There is a DDOS on some NTP servers.
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What the heck does blob free mean?
Beaglebone Blacks are impossible to get for some reason. They seem good for the
job with more stability for equal power consumption.
Has anyone got Tor running on something similar in price?
Robert
I don't know if someone else already tried that, but you
Thanks!Concise and precise.If only there were more such explanations on this list.
It used to mean the chip/circuitry sealed by a lump of black plastic which made it inaccessible to tinkering such as might be found in a musical chrismas card.Blob = proprietary binary package. Packages where no
How?
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Roger,
I beg your pardon. I would not want fud to deter new relays. I think the
risks are overplayed as it is.
It was only that it was published on this list. I published the relay nickname
somewhere and regret it.
I suggested the port change because that is what the VPS operators have told
...and the t-shirt counter at Atlas.torproject.org resets
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Gordon,
Have you evaluated the Riotboard(.org) for your idea of plug in Tor relay?
It looks like it uses about the same amount of energy as the Cubieboard but for
a little more money would be a lot more capable.
Robert
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You should at least change the ssh port immediately now that you have published the address.
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One of mine is being DDOSed today.
Zenaan Harkness wrote:
I think it is unusual.
Are you just checking the tor log to see this?
OK, so I am being DOSed then.
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Tor hidden services – a safe haven for cybercriminals
https://www.securelist.com/en/blog/8187/Tor_hidden_services_a_safe_haven_for_cybercriminals
The inevitable move - 64-bit ZeuS has come enhanced with Tor
What is this list for? It appears I have repeatedly misconstrued its purpose.
Support questions should be addressed to the Tor help desk reachable at
h...@rt.torproject.org.
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Lunar lu...@torproject.org
Roger,
That was it! Thank you.
I had looked for an accidental 3 but missed it before a hidden services line.
Robert
Sounds to me like you have a line in your torrc that starts with 3,
and of course Tor doesn't know what to do with it.
Did you edit your torrc file, and break it in some way
All,What is the problem? What is unknow option 3?It was working until changed to 2.5.2-alpha.RobertFeb 22 20:14:38.436 [notice] Tor v0.2.5.2-alpha (git-7d29e36edb6d0cf0) running on Linux with Libevent 2.0.19-stable, OpenSSL 1.0.1c and Zlib 1.2.7.Feb 22 20:14:38.436 [notice] Tor can't help you
I was told by a network engineer that recently there have been attacks
targetting ntp.
It may or may not have anything to do with your relay though.
Robert
My tor logs (running on Debian) are showing this warning:
[WARN] Your system clock just jumped 100 seconds forward; assuming
1.When installing it on several supposedly identical VPSs ARM won't start on
one because it can't find components where they should be. I got a limited,
incomrehensible (to me) response from the author so it stays unresolved.
2.ARM asks for a password which doesn't exist which is connected
to be better informed but so far I have found:-use a substantial password or key authenticationchange the port you SSH in todon't allow logging in as rootinstall DenyHosts and Fail2banRobertHi all,I've been running a few fail relays over the past few years. All relays I run they begin with the prefix
Also, if you know how set the operating system to update automatically to keep
it secure.
Robert
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It might be better at the top of the page.
Hi,
I really wonder why we even bother to have a FAQ:
http://torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en#RelayOrBridge
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What is a mid-relay?
On 01/30/2014 10:52 PM, K. Besig wrote:
Is anyone having luck setting up a mid-relay within the latest Tails
build?
I'm finding no joy..
You might find more joy with tor-ramdisk. Tails seems to be targeting
the client side.
as us.Question if I just set my computer to not
go into sleep mode is that all that is needed to let people use my
connection when I am not using it.Specs home built as-rock 787 pro3 8gig
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Through an agent 12 Tor exit VPSs ran flat chat on the Roubaix site for three months. Copyright threats came twice that I know of only because they changed the ip address saying there'd been a letter. The 12 only exits because I couldn't keep up with the goats stopping them very frequently
To avoid dragging down the quality of debate on this list it would help me to speak to people in Sydney who could advise me directly.Robert
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Not apparently. I tried them. They are shrinking out of apathy which is endemic
in Australia.
Robert
Prove me wrong, numbats!
Wayne
On 25 January 2014 00:31, I beatthebasta...@inbox.com wrote:
To avoid dragging down the quality of debate on this list it would help
me
to speak to people
not managed to confirm
that its DirPort is reachable. Please check your firewalls, ports,
address,...
Hi, Robert.
I would try setting your VPS IP as the Address value in torrc.
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Sebastian,
That's the spirit!
To me that feels like the right thinking.
In etc/hostname there is just ubuntu. In the details for the VPS the hostname
is VM#16 which I can't change there.
Therefore what would be correct to put in the etc/hostname file?
Is it useful to know that the ip address
Moritz and Jeroen,
Thank you both.
I tried both your ideas but the system is set to prevent the time being changed
as you thought.
Another plea to the VPS controllers and it was corrected. So the lesson there
is presume it is the VPS set-up first and foremost.
You both should know
Alan,
They did nothing about twelve exits without the restricted port list for two
months possibly because they were Windows ones through an agent.
It was unluckily during the botnet problem and they used to go off daily I
think because of the cpu load.
OVH must be have able to discern
Moritz,
How would I know that it is alright to run more than one instance of Tor?
Is it possible to prevent cpu use from causing VPS businesses threatening
suspension?
Robert
First of all, if you don't limit your relay bandwidth and hit CPU
limits, this will have a negative impact for Tor
It is Crissic I was referring to.I've been caught by several similarly.But I can say that a couple have quietly let it go on after I put some argument taken from Jacob, Roger, and others of the real legal status of nodes and Tor's real value. Some say Tor's good but the business rejects
Noilson, Andrew,I noticed the difference between the sources.list lines and the one below with dist in it so I copied and pasted the ones from the Tor installation help page which are the same as yours and they came out with dist in them in the update ?report again.Since then I have managed
Luther,
Following that page's help has allowed me to get mulitple VPSs working for Tor
but I am asking what to do when apt-get update or yum update doesn't get the
newer version of Tor.
How an update can be forced is the question.
(The failure was not due to the typing mistake
Luther,
Here again is some of the outcome
Err http://deb.torproject.org experimental-precise/main i386 Packages
404 Not Found [IP: 86.59.30.40 80]
Ign http://deb.torproject.org precise/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://deb.torproject.org precise/main Translation-en
Ign
Is there a way to open ports for Tor as an VPS account holder?
Robert
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Noilson, thanks,Since I'm doing it by the command line I was having trouble with both the mirror being 'deprecated' and my lack of Linux knowledge.That page and the command line version don't tell you what to do in fine detail or what to do when it doesn't work which has been the case
In this morning's messages -
One about three relays paid for a year in advance.
“Something Solutions LLC has decided to ban the usage of TOR.“ despite “We DO
Allow Tor Relays being in their current AUP.
One about downloading Tor and installing it as an exit for me when I couldn't
/binar
y-i386/Packages Undetermined Error [IP: 38.229.72.14 80]
Either could someone tell me how to force an update from the very old Ubuntu
held one I managed to get or tell me how to get to the current package some
other way?
Searching for help for Linux
I donated to Tor a few times because I couldn't use Linux, a VPS, or get past the port problems from home. Donations of cash are far better than using volunteers to send a partly profitable t-shirt.After the threshold of my first relay (an exit on a Windows VPS) Tor weather promised a t-shirt
Roger Dingledine and Jacob Applebaum speaking on Tor at 30C3
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I think two months is a bit short to be rewarded with a t-shirt from donated
resources.
It makes more sense to extend the time but include the total time running
ignoring minor disruptions.
Robert
: i noticed a problem with tor weather. I should have recieved a email
: -Uptime is nearly
Thomas et al,Thank you Thomas and EvaldoTor is for passing on everything without censoring it, I know and agree.The news tidbit I saw implied that they were integrating malware with Tor somehow.RobertHi Robert, the design of Tor is such that it is not possible to determine what traffic inside
Could you expand that it little further, please?
Robert
You may use a dynamic dns resolver such as freedns.afraid.org, dyn.com
or noip.com etc, then you can use your full dns name instead of your
current IP address.
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Excellent news!
...and I will use the description of Tor because it is the best I've seen.
Who would be against Tor after reading this
''Tor is free software and an open network that helps internet users to
defend against traffic analysis, a form of network surveillance that
threatens personal
I too found there was a variation from the Tor instructions and the Amazon
offer depending on where you opted to have the 'instance'. It appeared that
they were offering free instances in some places only.
You can set billing alerts so you know when it goes into charging e.g. $1.
Robert
Perhaps he's running the Tor cloud obfsproxy bridge on the free ECC (EC2) deal
at Amazon.
ec2bridgerocks001 D06C B145 56C1 F73A F317 B555 C279 2F7B 105C 95B4
It's been operational for 6 days now, Tor has been reporting bandwidth
usage, but when I try to look for it in the TorStatus page
It sounds like a challenge to get a relay up in China...
Perhaps this talk might inpsire a way of helping Tor into China.
http://www.ted.com/talks/michael_anti_behind_the_great_firewall_of_china.html
Robert
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Lunar,
There are some $1 a month VPSs which could be used for bridges, I gather.
Can you say that bridges wouldn't use more than 100GB a month?
Robert
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That's what I thought.
It's a shame not to find a use for what is there, though.
Robert
I've seen bridges range from no traffic in a month to a full terabyte in
a month.
So that 100GB may sit unused or it may be exhausted in days.
There are some $1 a month VPSs which could be used
Mick!
Thank you. Iptables is a programme!
I'm off and reading. It appears I need them on my VPSs.
Robert
Ip tables are a mystery to me.
Can someone either explain them or point to a complete explanation,
please?
Robert
Also, use iptables! If it is a dedicated VPS then drop anything
All,
If Tor is made non-exit by default, it can be explained to the hosters that
Tor out-of-the box will not bring any legal stress their way. It may even
encourage them to run a few relays themselves. :)
Parity.Boy
That's on the right track.
If running a non-exit relay were clearly
Putting the extensive exit restriction policy in the responses to take-down
demands seems like a good idea.
Robert
Publication of sample exit policies? Would that encourage exit node
operators
to run restricted exit policies, and save themselves loads of bandwidth
and
DMCA headache?
On the other hand the reports, of actual problems, don't seem to be many.
The mutterings and rumours do seem to echo.
Of the eighteen exit relays I've run (for just a few months) only a couple have
brought letters over copyright and they were in the USA. I am having to deal
with the providers's
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Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Amazon abuse report
On 28.10.2013 22:10, Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
Since Tor Cloud https://cloud.torproject.org/ suggests running on Amazon
EC2, I am confused.
Tor Cloud images are configured to act as bridges. You can run non
Gordon,
Thank you.
I may have a go at building the package from source, now.
Robert
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Gordon,
Thanks.
To see if it was possible just now I set up an obfsproxy bridge as
best I could but it failed to download properly.
I reinstalled Ubuntu 11.10 64 and free -m brought this..
total used free sharedbuffers cached
Mem: 256 38
Gordon,
It seems useful to run obfsproxy bridges on $1 a month VPSs then.
Can weather.torproject.org be used to monitor whether they're running or not?
Robert
Is there any utility in the very cheap VPSs with 128mb of ram?
I did some testing quite a while ago and found that 256MB
Mick,
Is Serverstack.nl particularly pro-tor exit nodes?
By the front page it would seem so.
Robert
I run tor perfectly happily on a VPS with 512MB of RAM. That node
is on a Gig backbone, advertises 2.1 MB/s (2100 KB) and shovels data at
anywhere between 24 and 32 Mbit/s all day every
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