On 1/8/13 10:40 PM, Moritz Bartl wrote:
I wrote a small incapable script [4] that visualizes how often a relay
is a fast relay over time. In its current form, it is not very
helpful, but slightly modified to output monthly overviews or just a
percentage figure per relay, it might already be
Hi,
On 23.07.2012 20:58, Roger Dingledine wrote:
We've lined up our first funder (BBG, aka http://www.voanews.com/),
and they're excited to have us start as soon as we can. They want to
sponsor 125+ fast exits.
From what I understand, the reimbursement process is blocking on
legal/contractual
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 01:23:57 -0400 grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com
wrote:
4) What exactly do we mean by diversity?
I would look at this almost entirely from a jurisdictional and ISP level. I
believe the biggest sudden impact threats to the tor network are going to
be from legal changes
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:51:35 -0400
Steve Snyder swsny...@snydernet.net allegedly wrote:
Allowing exits from ports 80 and 443 will always carry the risk of
abuse complaints.
It would be better to retain 80 and 443 as exit ports and just block
traffic to the Google/Yahoo/AOL/etc. mail
On 31.07.2012 12:21, mick wrote:
Question for tor developers. How hard would it be to change the logic
(and syntax) of exit policy in tor to allow domain based formulations
like:
reject *.gmail.com
reject *aol.com
We see webmail based spam reports from all kinds of addresses. The
better
Hi Roger,
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 02:58:54PM -0400, Roger Dingledine wrote:
Open questions we need to decide about:
1) What exactly would we pay for?
I think the right way to do it is to offer to reimburse bandwidth/hosting
costs -- I don't want to get into the business of paying people
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 06:32:30PM +0200, Julian Wissmann wrote:
we've got an offer for 10GBit
unmetered@750?, which is kind of sweet spot performance/buck wise and I
guess, that it could handle 8-12 Tor nodes performance wise to satisfy
the pipe. It would be a large number of high performance
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:01:13PM -0400, Steve Snyder wrote:
At the same time, much of our performance improvement comes from better
load balancing -- that is, concentrating traffic on the relays that can
handle it better. The result though is a direct tradeoff with relay
diversity: on
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 07:34:14PM +0100, mick wrote:
We've lined up our first funder (BBG, aka http://www.voanews.com/),
and they're excited to have us start as soon as we can. They want to
sponsor 125+ fast exits.
Forgive me, but what do they want in return? (He who pays the
piper...)
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 05:49:34AM -0400, Motoko Kusanagi wrote:
I am very interested in running 100 Mbit (maybe even more) exit nodes at
100$/month, however, a question immediately comes to mind:
When we say 100Mbit exit node, do we imply really unmetered traffic at
100 Mbit, or do we mean
Is there any justification for a low-bandwidth Tor node?
Other than the diversity of having more nodes around...
seems from discussions here that slower nodes see less
users. Which means they're not as likely to be blocked
by content providers for user misbehavior. This can be
valuable for the
On 24.07.2012 00:09, Roger Dingledine wrote:
- What do you currently pay for hosting/bandwidth, and how much bandwidth
do you get for that?
109 Euro for Gbit in Romania (Voxility/Limehost)
$400 each for Gbit in Budapest and USA (Axigy)*
300 Euro for 200 Mbps in Sweden
375 Euro for 200TB (~800
On 30.07.2012 12:57, Andreas Fink wrote:
109 Euro for Gbit in Romania (Voxility/Limehost)
$400 each for Gbit in Budapest and USA (Axigy)*
300 Euro for 200 Mbps in Sweden
375 Euro for 200TB (~800 Mbps) in Netherlands (NForce)
You have to well differentiate here if you get shared traffic or
True but then you are simply using empty capacity of the others which is not
guaranteed to you. So if the other customers start pumping your
connection speed drops.
Not necessarily if we are on a dedicated Gbit port (which we are at
least at Axigy) and the ISP has enough upstream capacity.
This seems (to me) like an obvious suggestion, so my apologies if it's
already been thought up.
Why not establish a team/scoreboard system, like those used for distributed
computing and BitCoin mining? This elegantly solves a few problems while
with minimal resource commitment from the Tor
If I may be allowed to add my 2cents as a newbie...
Just found the website https://torstatus.blutmagie.de Linked off the
https://www.torservers.net site. If this is reliable, then stats would
be easy to determine.List the say...top 5(random number) of each
country and support them? If
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:48:16PM -0700, Sriakhil Gogineni wrote:
Ball park quotes we got were 99$ / 100 Mbps or $599 / 1000 Mbps for transit
for a single 1U... we'll see if we can get something better...
That's a good quote for 1Gbps.
Would this be helpful / viable option for a Tor exit
Hi,
What can I say that hasn't been said by others before... :)
We are in contact with reliable ISPs with endpoints in various
countries. They would be willing to cooperate on exits at these
locations. We have not yet talked about prices.
I would say we (as in Torservers.net) are in the
On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 20:08:05 +0200
Andreas Fink af...@datacell.com wrote:
Traffic from Iceland is still relatively expensive. However we could
host some machines in other places where we interconnect on internet
exchanges.
Is this true for IPv6 too? I've found asking for IPv6-only servers is
Excuse me, as I'm rather new to mailing lists an the sort, but I've been
tailing the conversation on and off the last few days.
I'm currently using Secured Servers through PheonixNAP as my dedicated
provider. I've used them for roughly a year now and have had no real
problems. They are
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 02:36:32AM +, k...@damnfbi.tk wrote:
Hey all,
Has anyone contemplated pitching this towards hackerspaces running
their own fast nodes?
I wouldn't recommend running an exit node on a network link that will
make you sad if it goes away for a few days. Most
Hi Roger, list
I want to draw your attention to a thread I've started on the tor-relays
list:
https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2012-July/001433.html
In short, we have a funder who wants to sponsor more and faster Tor
exits, and we're brainstorming about how to use the
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 05:14:44PM -0400, Andrew Lewis wrote:
$100 is not going to cut it most likely, even for only 100 mbit
traffic only. Most providers are really antsy about spam/DMCA reports,
and aren't willing to deal with it for that cheap. I'd suspect that
you are looking at the
Am 25.07.2012 um 21:31 schrieb delber:
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 05:14:44PM -0400, Andrew Lewis wrote:
$100 is not going to cut it most likely, even for only 100 mbit
traffic only. Most providers are really antsy about spam/DMCA reports,
and aren't willing to deal with it for that cheap. I'd
Hi,
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Mike Perry mikepe...@torproject.orgwrote:
Thus spake k...@damnfbi.tk (k...@damnfbi.tk):
Hey all,
Have you contemplated sending this over to the hackerspaces list?
There exists THE list for hackerspaces? Well hot damn. Are these them:
Thus spake k...@damnfbi.tk (k...@damnfbi.tk):
Hey all,
Have you contemplated sending this over to the hackerspaces list?
There exists THE list for hackerspaces? Well hot damn. Are these them:
http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/
Is there a specific sub-list we should focus on?
In my short experience of running an exit relay on a cheap vps I can say.
You can do this on less than 30 a month. It might not be true 100 mbit 24/7
but does that really matter? If you get enough interested parties it should
balance out right?
For surfing/email etc 10 mbit is plenty I think? Mine
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Roger Dingledine a...@mit.edu wrote:
Open questions we need to decide about:
1) What exactly would we pay for?
As you said, reimbursing users for hosting is probably the best idea
here, however, we also don't want to get in the situation where users
feel that
I am impressed with the amount of good discussion so far, in stead of the
' mine is better than yours ' syndrome or ' i know more than you ' .
Along with what has been discussed and beginning proposals so far, in the
infancy here, What about finding a way, if not to much of a headache,
trying to
Hi,
I am not in the position to comment on what would be good for the network,
there are others more knowledgeable - like yourself. There's not much to add to
your remarks. Having said that, I can comment on what I would change for me.
I am currently providing a fast exit node on a colocated
Thus spake Nils Vogels (bacardic...@gmail.com):
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Mike Perry mikepe...@torproject.orgwrote:
Thus spake k...@damnfbi.tk (k...@damnfbi.tk):
Hey all,
Have you contemplated sending this over to the hackerspaces list?
There exists THE list for
Hey all,
Have you contemplated sending this over to the hackerspaces list?
They are often:
geographically diverse
can be be incorporated or non-profit
understand or have heard of Tor
usually pay for a decently fast connection for their space already
are familiar with hosting
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