Re: [tor-relays] Exit relay seized by police

2015-11-10 Thread Tim Wilson-Brown - teor
> On 10 Nov 2015, at 14:03, Sean Greenslade wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:40:19AM +, Tim Sammut wrote: >> I meant is it possible for a relay operator to detect if a snapshot of a >> running VM or VPS has been taken? Asked slightly differently, if I have >> a relay running as a VPS or

Re: [tor-relays] Exit relay seized by police

2015-11-09 Thread Sean Greenslade
On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:40:19AM +, Tim Sammut wrote: > I meant is it possible for a relay operator to detect if a snapshot of a > running VM or VPS has been taken? Asked slightly differently, if I have > a relay running as a VPS or VM, can I somehow detect if my provider took > a snapshot of

Re: [tor-relays] Exit relay seized by police

2015-11-09 Thread Tim Wilson-Brown - teor
> On 10 Nov 2015, at 11:40, Tim Sammut wrote: > > Hi Tim, sorry. > > On 11/10/2015 12:33 AM, Tim Wilson-Brown - teor wrote: >>> On 11/06/2015 08:41 PM, Tim Wilson-Brown - teor wrote: >> The directory authorities are generally more concerned when >> they *don't* stop it afterwards, and i

Re: [tor-relays] Exit relay seized by police

2015-11-09 Thread Tim Sammut
Hi Tim, sorry. On 11/10/2015 12:33 AM, Tim Wilson-Brown - teor wrote: >> On 11/06/2015 08:41 PM, Tim Wilson-Brown - teor wrote: > The directory authorities are generally more concerned when > they *don't* stop it afterwards, and instead keep running it, > perhaps with extra logging, pa

Re: [tor-relays] Exit relay seized by police

2015-11-09 Thread Tim Wilson-Brown - teor
> On 10 Nov 2015, at 11:28, Tim Sammut wrote: > > Hi Tim, everyone. > > On 11/06/2015 08:41 PM, Tim Wilson-Brown - teor wrote: >> The directory authorities are generally more concerned when they >> *don't* stop it afterwards, and instead keep running it, perhaps with >> extra logging, packet du

Re: [tor-relays] Exit relay seized by police

2015-11-09 Thread Tim Sammut
Hi Tim, everyone. On 11/06/2015 08:41 PM, Tim Wilson-Brown - teor wrote: > The directory authorities are generally more concerned when they > *don't* stop it afterwards, and instead keep running it, perhaps with > extra logging, packet dumps, and decryption via seized private keys. Is there a rel

Re: [tor-relays] Exit relay seized by police

2015-11-07 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 11/06/2015 05:31 PM, Kevin Beranek wrote: > Is there a better list than this one for doing so? I can't find a list > that seems more appropriate > on https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo. Or do I have > to email the DirAuths directly? If so, where do I find the addresses to >

Re: [tor-relays] Exit relay seized by police

2015-11-06 Thread I
It would seem to make a difference if you are in one country and the company is in another and the legal action is in another.Robert ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/t

Re: [tor-relays] Exit relay seized by police

2015-11-06 Thread Tim Wilson-Brown - teor
> On 7 Nov 2015, at 08:36, Kevin Beranek wrote: > > Russian, I assume because the relay was in Russia. Russia has over 200 mutual legal assistance treaties. Source: http://www.mlat.is/p/query-interface.html (requires JavaScript) Sometimes it's impossible to tell where the investigation was ini

Re: [tor-relays] Exit relay seized by police

2015-11-06 Thread Kevin Beranek
Russian, I assume because the relay was in Russia. On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 12:49 PM, I wrote: > Which police? > > ___ > tor-relays mailing list > tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays > >

Re: [tor-relays] Exit relay seized by police

2015-11-06 Thread Nima Fatemi
Kevin Beranek: > Is there a better list than this one for doing so? I can't find a list > that seems more appropriate on > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo. Or do I have to > email the DirAuths directly? If so, where do I find the addresses to use? That would be bad-rel...@

Re: [tor-relays] Exit relay seized by police

2015-11-06 Thread I
Which police? ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays

Re: [tor-relays] Exit relay seized by police

2015-11-06 Thread Kevin Beranek
Thanks everyone. I sent an email to all of the DirAuth operators. On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Tim Wilson-Brown - teor wrote: > > On 7 Nov 2015, at 07:20, Josef Stautner wrote: > > Well, of course they take a dump of the RAM and stop it afterwards :-) > > > The directory authorities are ge

Re: [tor-relays] Exit relay seized by police

2015-11-06 Thread Tim Wilson-Brown - teor
> On 7 Nov 2015, at 07:20, Josef Stautner wrote: > > Well, of course they take a dump of the RAM and stop it afterwards :-) The directory authorities are generally more concerned when they *don't* stop it afterwards, and instead keep running it, perhaps with extra logging, packet dumps, and d

Re: [tor-relays] Exit relay seized by police

2015-11-06 Thread Josef Stautner
Well, of course they take a dump of the RAM and stop it afterwards :-) Am 06.11.2015 um 21:18 schrieb Josef Stautner: > They stop it, make a dump of the RAM and save the hard drive. > > Am 06.11.2015 um 20:58 schrieb I: >> How can they seize a virtual server? >> Which country are the police from?

Re: [tor-relays] Exit relay seized by police

2015-11-06 Thread Josef Stautner
They stop it, make a dump of the RAM and save the hard drive. Am 06.11.2015 um 20:58 schrieb I: > How can they seize a virtual server? > Which country are the police from? > > Robert > > > ___ > tor-relays mailing list > tor-relays@lists.torproject.org >

Re: [tor-relays] Exit relay seized by police

2015-11-06 Thread I
How can they seize a virtual server?Which country are the police from?Robert ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays

Re: [tor-relays] Exit relay seized by police

2015-11-06 Thread DerTor Steher
and here's the URL I spoke of: https://atlas.torproject.org/#search/flag:Authority Sorry, I forgot to paste it in the email. 2015-11-06 18:16 GMT+01:00 DerTor Steher : > Hey Kevin, > > under the following URL you can find all authorities with their email > adresses stated in the "contact" section

Re: [tor-relays] Exit relay seized by police

2015-11-06 Thread DerTor Steher
Hey Kevin, under the following URL you can find all authorities with their email adresses stated in the "contact" section. Please make sure you inform every single one of them in case you have lost any access to your VPS so you can't shutdown/delete your relay. 2015-11-06 17:31 GMT+01:00 Kevin Be

Re: [tor-relays] Exit relay seized by police

2015-11-06 Thread Kevin Beranek
Is there a better list than this one for doing so? I can't find a list that seems more appropriate on https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo. Or do I have to email the DirAuths directly? If so, where do I find the addresses to use? On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 8:20 AM, justaguy wrote:

Re: [tor-relays] Exit relay seized by police

2015-11-06 Thread justaguy
Because you lost control of your exit relay, you should ask DirAuths to reject/refuse/ban your exit. On 11/06/2015 05:05 PM, Kevin Beranek wrote: > Is there a procedure I should follow if a relay has been seized by the > police? Do DirAuths typically do something in cases where a relay is > seize

[tor-relays] Exit relay seized by police

2015-11-06 Thread Kevin Beranek
Is there a procedure I should follow if a relay has been seized by the police? Do DirAuths typically do something in cases where a relay is seized? I just got a message from NQHost stating that "We have received several police inquires and court order to seize your VPS. ". This affects relay A1E