Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-19 Thread Georg Koppen
David Goulet: > On 17 Oct (13:54:22), Arlen Yaroslav via tor-relays wrote: >> Hi, > > Hi Arlen! > >> >> I've done some further analysis on this. The reason my relay is being marked >> as overloaded is because of DNS timeout errors. I had to dive into the >> source code to figure this out. >> >>

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-18 Thread David Goulet
On 17 Oct (13:54:22), Arlen Yaroslav via tor-relays wrote: > Hi, Hi Arlen! > > I've done some further analysis on this. The reason my relay is being marked > as overloaded is because of DNS timeout errors. I had to dive into the > source code to figure this out. > > In dns.c, a libevent

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-18 Thread Arlen Yaroslav via tor-relays
Hi, I've done some further analysis on this. The reason my relay is being marked as overloaded is because of DNS timeout errors. I had to dive into the source code to figure this out. In dns.c, a libevent DNS_ERR_TIMEOUT is being recorded as an OVERLOAD_GENERAL error. Am I correct in saying

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-15 Thread Georg Koppen
Arlen Yaroslav via tor-relays: >> The problem is that it’s *not* currently overloaded, there’s nothing to see. >> Maybe you can check your syslogs for anything out of the ordinary >> system-wide? > > I've checked dmesg. Nothing that stands out as being problematic. Even if > there was

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-15 Thread Bleedangel Tor Admin
The problem is that it’s *not* currently overloaded, there’s nothing to see. Maybe you can check your syslogs for anything out of the ordinary system-wide? Sent from ProtonMail for iOS On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 10:09, Arlen Yaroslav via tor-relays wrote: > I am

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-15 Thread Arlen Yaroslav via tor-relays
> The problem is that it’s *not* currently overloaded, there’s nothing to see. > Maybe you can check your syslogs for anything out of the ordinary system-wide? I've checked dmesg. Nothing that stands out as being problematic. Even if there was something there's no way to tell if it's actually

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-14 Thread Arlen Yaroslav via tor-relays
> I am not sure where you are looking but if you take a look at what > > Onionoo[1] is saying you get > > overload_general_timestamp 163418040 > > which means 10/14/2021 03:00:00 UTC, thus today. > > Georg > > [1] https://onionoo.torproject.org/details?limit=4=VinculumGate Thanks, I was

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-14 Thread Georg Koppen
Arlen Yaroslav via tor-relays: >> Did you use a lot of ram or cpu power recently? I got flagged as overloaded >> when I was compiling something and used a lot of cpu. > > Nothing out of the ordinary. The server is a virtual machine which is > dedicated to running a Tor relay. I don't use it for

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-14 Thread Arlen Yaroslav via tor-relays
> Did you use a lot of ram or cpu power recently? I got flagged as overloaded > when I was compiling something and used a lot of cpu. Nothing out of the ordinary. The server is a virtual machine which is dedicated to running a Tor relay. I don't use it for anything else. I've just checked the

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-14 Thread Bleedangel Tor Admin
Did you use a lot of ram or cpu power recently? I got flagged as overloaded when I was compiling something and used a lot of cpu.Again, the problem here is that even if you fix it, you won’t know for 3 days. Therefore if you try multiple methods to fix it you won’t know what the problem is.I

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-14 Thread Arlen Yaroslav via tor-relays
Hi all, My relay (77D08850C1EE8587451F838D3F49874F75B0B1AC) is showing as overloaded on the Relay Search page: https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#details/77D08850C1EE8587451F838D3F49874F75B0B1AC I have enabled MetricsPort and MetricsPortPolicy in the torrc configuration file. I have

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-09 Thread lists
On Friday, October 8, 2021 12:18:16 AM CEST Bleedangel Tor Admin wrote: > Can you link to where I can edit the torproject.org documentation? I cannot > find this feature. https://community.torproject.org/relay/setup/ at the bottom. You can do this with a normal github.com account:

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-08 Thread gus
On Fri, Oct 08, 2021 at 06:54:01AM +, Georg Koppen wrote: > Bleedangel Tor Admin: > > Can you link to where I can edit the torproject.org documentation? I cannot > > find > > this feature. > > This is nowadays tracked in our Gitlab instance.[1] Thus, you could fork > the respective project

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-08 Thread Georg Koppen
Bleedangel Tor Admin: > Can you link to where I can edit the torproject.org documentation? I cannot > find > this feature. This is nowadays tracked in our Gitlab instance.[1] Thus, you could fork the respective project and make a merge request. We'd be happy to review it and improve our

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-08 Thread Bleedangel Tor Admin
Can you link to where I can edit the torproject.org documentation? I cannot find this feature.Thanks Sent from ProtonMail for iOS On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 06:48, wrote: On Wednesday, October 6, 2021 8:55:01 PM CEST potlatch via tor-relays wrote:> Tor has always been very

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-07 Thread lists
On Wednesday, October 6, 2021 8:55:01 PM CEST potlatch via tor-relays wrote: > Tor has always been very lax at documentation--both creation and updating. > I've never seen a thorough site map or directory published. I think this > discourages folks who would like to start a tor relay. Mmm. I'm

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-07 Thread potlatch via tor-relays
Tor has always been very lax at documentation--both creation and updating. I've never seen a thorough site map or directory published. I think this discourages folks who would like to start a tor relay. potlatch Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-07 Thread Gary C. New via tor-relays
I have to agree with Bleedangel on both points that they make: 1. Attempting to troubleshoot a relay every 3 days takes some serious patience and 2. Guidance in setting up PortMetrics is as important as understanding is output. Excellent Suggestions! Respectfully, Gary On Wednesday,

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-06 Thread lists
On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 11:13:27 PM CEST Bleedangel Tor Admin wrote: > i think the troubleshooting guide should contain directions to enable > metricsport, and how to view the results: +1 > ... > > To enable metricsport for advanced diagnosis: > > In torrc set MetricsPort and

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-06 Thread lists
On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 10:33:04 PM CEST Silvia/Hiro wrote: > We have tried to clarify how and why the overloaded state is triggered. > I hope this can help operators understand better why their relays can be > found in this state and how a normal state can be recovered. > > Please do let us

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-06 Thread Gary C. New via tor-relays
Hiro, It took me a minute to find the newly added causal information inline with the example PortMetrics output. I was expecting two distinct sections: Possible Causes and Possible Remedies. Either way, thank you for adding the information. Respectfully, Gary On Tuesday, October 5, 2021,

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-06 Thread Bleedangel Tor Admin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 This is much more informational. Great job! As someone with mystery "overloaded" problems, i'd recommend / request / beg for the following: 1) When the relay is overloaded, a yellow indicator appears on the web page. This indicator remains for

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-05 Thread Silvia/Hiro
On 10/4/21 1:36 PM, David Goulet wrote: > On 02 Oct (01:29:56), torix via tor-relays wrote: >> My relays (Aramis) marked overloaded don't make any sense either. Two of >> the ones marked with orange are the two with the lowest traffic I have (2-5 >> MiB/s and 4-9 MiB/s - not pushing any limits

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-05 Thread Gary C. New via tor-relays
Georg, Thank you for the reference that confirms the Advertised Bandwidth is from the Tor client. I still don't understand why my Tor nodes aren't able to initiate a 10 second burst higher than 4MB/s. An Internet Speed Test is able to sustain a burst near my advertised 250Mb/s up and down. Am

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-05 Thread Georg Koppen
Gary C. New via tor-relays: > > David Goulet: > > > > > Will you confirm whether the Advertised Bandwidth metric is also client > initiated (I'm assuming to the Directory Authority)? > > > > > I have a 250Mb pipe and have seen a maximum Advertised Bandwidth rate of > 4MB/s with my Tor

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-05 Thread Gary C. New via tor-relays
David Goulet: Will you confirm whether the Advertised Bandwidth metric is also client initiated (I'm assuming to the Directory Authority)? I have a 250Mb pipe and have seen a maximum Advertised Bandwidth rate of 4MB/s with my Tor relay. I know resource constraint must be factored in,

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-04 Thread lists
On Sunday, October 3, 2021 6:52:46 PM CEST Bleedangel Tor Admin wrote: > The troubleshooting page for an overloaded relay mentions running > metricsport, but with no instructions or even links to anywhere to explain > how to do this. ?? marco@w530:~$ man torrc | grep Metrics MetricsPort

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-04 Thread David Goulet
On 02 Oct (01:29:56), torix via tor-relays wrote: > My relays (Aramis) marked overloaded don't make any sense either. Two of > the ones marked with orange are the two with the lowest traffic I have (2-5 > MiB/s and 4-9 MiB/s - not pushing any limits here); the third one with that > host has more

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-04 Thread Bleedangel Tor Admin
Agreed . My relay is wellBelow all of the thresholds for “overloaded”, for gods sake 64gb ram and 12 cpus should be adequate for a tor relay? 10gb connection?I’ve asked multiple times for help trying to figure this out and have gotten zero response. It seems to be very difficult to get any help

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-03 Thread torix via tor-relays
My relays (Aramis) marked overloaded don't make any sense either. Two of the ones marked with orange are the two with the lowest traffic I have (2-5 MiB/s and 4-9 MiB/s - not pushing any limits here); the third one with that host has more traffic and is fine. So far this indicator seems to

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-10-01 Thread David Goulet
On 01 Oct (03:08:20), Andreas Kempe wrote: > Hello David! > > On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 08:22:08AM -0400, David Goulet wrote: > > On 24 Sep (12:36:17), li...@for-privacy.net wrote: > > > On Thursday, September 23, 2021 3:39:08 PM CEST Silvia/Hiro wrote: > > > > > > > When a relay is in the

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-09-30 Thread Bleedangel Tor Admin
But I’m WELL below the 3/4 rule ..MemTotal:   65777296 kBMemFree:    63088388 kBI actually have 95.9121031670259% FREE which means I’m only using around 4% of my ram!Am I understanding the 3/4 wrong? Thanks againSent from ProtonMail for iOS On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 21:50, Gary C. New

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-09-30 Thread Andreas Kempe
Hello David! On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 08:22:08AM -0400, David Goulet wrote: > On 24 Sep (12:36:17), li...@for-privacy.net wrote: > > On Thursday, September 23, 2021 3:39:08 PM CEST Silvia/Hiro wrote: > > > > > When a relay is in the overloaded state we show an amber dot next to the > > > relay

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-09-29 Thread Georg Koppen
David Goulet: [snip] > There are two other overload lines that tor relay report: > "overload-ratelimits" and "overload-fd-exhausted" but they are not used yet > for the overload status on Metrics. But you can find them in your relay > descriptor[0] if you are curious. Small correction here:

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-09-28 Thread Silvia/Hiro
On 9/28/21 8:40 PM, Toralf Förster wrote: > On 9/23/21 3:39 PM, Silvia/Hiro wrote: >> Let us known how you find this new feature. > It would be nice if even the search form would have that feature too. > Currently here all is green: >

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-09-28 Thread Bleedangel Tor Admin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I am having a lot of trouble figuring out why my relay keeps showing as overloaded on the search page. I believe I have more than enough memory and cpu power to not be overloaded on hardware. My server internet connection is 10GB up/down

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-09-28 Thread Toralf Förster
On 9/23/21 3:39 PM, Silvia/Hiro wrote: Let us known how you find this new feature. It would be nice if even the search form would have that feature too. Currently here all is green: https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/zwiebeltoralf wherease the details of each of the 2 relays

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-09-28 Thread Gary C. New via tor-relays
David, This is exactly the type of information I was hoping for. You should make this an article and link it to the overloaded support page. I guess I assumed that Tor preformed external timeout monitoring apposed to relay reported resource monitoring. It's interesting that you mention

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-09-28 Thread David Goulet
On 27 Sep (14:23:34), Gary C. New via tor-relays wrote: > George, > The referenced support article provides recommendations as to what might be > causing the overloaded state, but it doesn't provide the metric(s) for how > Tor decides whether a relay is overloaded. I'm trying to ascertain the >

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-09-27 Thread Bleedangel Tor Admin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Agreed, can the thresholds be published publicly for easy reference? Sometimes i get the overloaded flag but i have nothing in my logs, and my cpu/memory is abundant.  It would be much easier to ascertain the cause of this if we knew what we were

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-09-27 Thread Gary C. New via tor-relays
George, The referenced support article provides recommendations as to what might be causing the overloaded state, but it doesn't provide the metric(s) for how Tor decides whether a relay is overloaded. I'm trying to ascertain the later. I would assume the overloaded state metric(S) is/are a

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-09-27 Thread David Goulet
On 24 Sep (12:36:17), li...@for-privacy.net wrote: > On Thursday, September 23, 2021 3:39:08 PM CEST Silvia/Hiro wrote: > > > When a relay is in the overloaded state we show an amber dot next to the > > relay nickname. > Nice thing. This flag has noticed me a few days ago. > > > If you noticed

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-09-27 Thread Georg Koppen
Toralf Förster: > On 9/25/21 4:11 PM, Silvia/Hiro wrote: >> If it happens again there are two buttons at the end of the page where >> you can see the latest server and extra-info descriptors. > Only, if the DirPort is (still) opened, or ? Yes, I think so. (Good catch) Georg OpenPGP_signature

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-09-27 Thread Georg Koppen
Gary C. New via tor-relays: > Hiro, > Presently, I'm seeing a similar issue. On my laptop, I'm observing an > overloaded status for my relay. However, the same relay shows a green status > on my phone. > Do you do any user-agent detection? > I'm still interested in those magic numbers, which

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-09-27 Thread Silvia/Hiro
Ofc I meant you can reply off list. On 9/27/21 11:16 AM, Silvia/Hiro wrote: > Gary, > > Replying off list. > Can I know which one is your relay? > We don't do user-agent detection. > > Cheers, > -hiro > > On 9/26/21 4:27 AM, Gary C. New via tor-relays wrote: >> Hiro, >> Presently, I'm seeing

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-09-27 Thread Silvia/Hiro
Gary, Replying off list. Can I know which one is your relay? We don't do user-agent detection. Cheers, -hiro On 9/26/21 4:27 AM, Gary C. New via tor-relays wrote: > Hiro, > Presently, I'm seeing a similar issue. On my laptop, I'm observing an > overloaded status for my relay. However, the

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-09-25 Thread Gary C. New via tor-relays
Hiro, Presently, I'm seeing a similar issue. On my laptop, I'm observing an overloaded status for my relay. However, the same relay shows a green status on my phone. Do you do any user-agent detection? I'm still interested in those magic numbers, which determine whether a relay has reached an

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-09-25 Thread Toralf Förster
On 9/25/21 4:11 PM, Silvia/Hiro wrote: If it happens again there are two buttons at the end of the page where you can see the latest server and extra-info descriptors. Only, if the DirPort is (still) opened, or ? -- Toralf ___ tor-relays mailing list

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-09-25 Thread Silvia/Hiro
Hi, I went back in history and tried to find out whenever your node FriendlyExit1 was overloaded. I couldn't find the exact descriptor. One thing I can think of is that on the 22nd when I deployed this I noticed a few typos in the code and had to make a second release. Maybe something was cached

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-09-24 Thread Gary C. New via tor-relays
Hi All! Curious... What are the magic numbers (i.e., max timeout, reoccurrence, etc) that earn a relay overloaded status? I'm trying to tune my portion of the Tor network and finding that sweet spot has proven elusive. Thanks! Gary On Friday, September 24, 2021, 3:48:18 AM MDT,

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-09-24 Thread lists
On Thursday, September 23, 2021 3:39:08 PM CEST Silvia/Hiro wrote: > When a relay is in the overloaded state we show an amber dot next to the > relay nickname. Nice thing. This flag has noticed me a few days ago. > If you noticed your relay is overloaded, please check the following > support

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-09-24 Thread Silvia/Hiro
On 9/23/21 10:54 PM, friendlyexitnode via tor-relays wrote: > This looks like an awesome feature! I super appreciate it. > > Random question though (and I'm the first to admit I may be doing something > wrong), I notice that on Mobile it says my relays are overloaded however when > I view it

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-09-24 Thread friendlyexitnode via tor-relays
This looks like an awesome feature! I super appreciate it. Random question though (and I'm the first to admit I may be doing something wrong), I notice that on Mobile it says my relays are overloaded however when I view it on a normal computer I don't get the overloaded indicator. I've tried

Re: [tor-relays] Overloaded state indicator on relay-search

2021-09-23 Thread Bleedangel Tor Admin
My relay was showing as overloaded and I couldn’t figure out why, system utilization was extremely low, only using a tiny bit of ram, network throughout was problem free, I was scratching my head until I realized it shows for 72 hours, and I had been doing a heavy distcc compile on my server