Re: [tor-relays] Reimbursement of Exit Operators

2013-09-18 Thread Karsten Loesing
On 9/18/13 2:53 AM, Damian Johnson wrote: Unless maybe stem already does exactly this for us? Yup, stem parses the extrainfo descriptors... https://stem.torproject.org/api/descriptor/extrainfo_descriptor.html#stem.descriptor.extrainfo_descriptor.ExtraInfoDescriptor The only pesky bit is

Re: [tor-relays] Reimbursement of Exit Operators

2013-09-18 Thread Lunar
Roger Dingledine: On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 08:27:57PM +0200, Moritz Bartl wrote: The recipient share is calculated from the throughput per relay * country factor It might be worthwhile to make it clearer what throughput is here. I hope it's not consensus weight, since that's not really

Re: [tor-relays] Reimbursement of Exit Operators

2013-09-18 Thread tor
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Re: [tor-relays] Reimbursement of Exit Operators

2013-09-18 Thread Tom Ritter
On Sep 18, 2013 7:11 AM, t...@t-3.net wrote: I wonder if I am the only one who finds this creepy, in light of all of the news that has come out lately about the banking systems having been hacked, etc. This kind of thing would draw a direct line of sorts to the bank account of the person/company

Re: [tor-relays] Reimbursement of Exit Operators

2013-09-18 Thread Tom Ritter
On 18 September 2013 08:10, t...@t-3.net wrote: The OP I saw said: The Wau Holland Foundation can currently only reimburse via wire transfer. This seems to be end-of-story in terms of who, in the end, is ultimately getting liability/risk, and points to practically no chance at anonymity

[tor-relays] 0.2.4.17-rc on Pi, a couple weeks on

2013-09-18 Thread Gordon Morehouse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hey folks, Here are my reports. First the good news: it's WAY more stable. Then the bad news: it still gets OOM-killed once in a while, possibly preventably. THE GOOD (notes from September 14): Here's my Pi relay since compilation of

Re: [tor-relays] 0.2.4.17-rc on Pi, a couple weeks on

2013-09-18 Thread Gordon Morehouse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Addendum: restarting tor instantly puts my router into a tailspin this morning. This is a WRT54G (old school, 3.0 hardware, 200MHz MIPS). While that's old, there are many, many consumer routers out there with similar specs and worse firmware. In

Re: [tor-relays] 0.2.4.17-rc on Pi, a couple weeks on

2013-09-18 Thread Gordon Morehouse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Addendum to addendum: the router fail is definitely caused by Tor connections filling up the router's ip_conntrack table - once it gets near full, it somehow interferes with a couple other services on my router (especially DNSmasq) even if there is

Re: [tor-relays] 0.2.4.17-rc on Pi, a couple weeks on

2013-09-18 Thread josh
You may be able to increase the ip_conntrack_max on your router. I had a terrible verizon dsl router that would have its connection tracking capacity exhausted by pings to games servers. I was able to partially resolve the problem my telnetting (yea I know) into the router and setting the

Re: [tor-relays] Reimbursement of Exit Operators

2013-09-18 Thread Rick
On 09/18/2013 07:31 AM, Tom Ritter wrote: On Sep 18, 2013 7:11 AM, t...@t-3.net mailto:t...@t-3.net wrote: I wonder if I am the only one who finds this creepy... Nope, I don't think so. Perhaps it's the timing. In this post-Snowden period most everything is a little bit creepy. There's

Re: [tor-relays] Too little traffic on my #2 non-exit relay

2013-09-18 Thread mick
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 20:41:17 +0200 Christian Dietrich christian.d.dietr...@gmail.com allegedly wrote: Thanks, but both relays have been started at the same time. Due to the fact that they also have the same configuration, both should offer up to 1 gigabit/s bandwidth. RelayBandwidthRate 125

Re: [tor-relays] Too little traffic on my #2 non-exit relay

2013-09-18 Thread Logforme
Weird that #1 has the stable flag and #2 don't then. Stable -- A router is 'Stable' if it is active, and either its Weighted MTBF is at least the median for known active routers or its Weighted MTBF corresponds to at least 7 days. The above suggests that #1 has been known to the dirauths for a

Re: [tor-relays] Reimbursement of Exit Operators

2013-09-18 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:36:39 -0400 Rick reru...@gmail.com wrote: Nope, I don't think so. Perhaps it's the timing. In this post-Snowden period most everything is a little bit creepy. There's plenty of FUD to go around. A position paper from Torproject on this and other recent issues would be

Re: [tor-relays] 0.2.4.17-rc on Pi, a couple weeks on

2013-09-18 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 06:50:46AM -0700, Gordon Morehouse wrote: The replay has settled into a fairly steady state (after losing its flags except Named) of sending 5-10KB more per sec than it gets. I have a feeling this is literally due to the TAP replies being bigger than the TAP requests.

Re: [tor-relays] Reimbursement of Exit Operators

2013-09-18 Thread tor
It's a little old. Posted July 24, 2012 We knew a lot less on that date. On Wednesday 18/09/2013 at 3:08 pm, Andrew Lewman wrote: On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:36:39 -0400 Rick reru...@gmail.com wrote: Nope, I don't think so. Perhaps it's the timing. In this post-Snowden period most

Re: [tor-relays] Reimbursement of Exit Operators

2013-09-18 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 08:10:25AM -0400, t...@t-3.net wrote: The Wau Holland Foundation can currently only reimburse via wire transfer. This seems to be end-of-story in terms of who, in the end, is ultimately getting liability/risk, and points to practically no chance at anonymity Think

Re: [tor-relays] Too little traffic on my #2 non-exit relay

2013-09-18 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 06:57:54PM +0200, Christian Dietrich wrote: Now my problem is that tor relay #2 generates almost no traffic. https://atlas.torproject.org/#search/myTOR Log Relay #2: Circuit handshake stats since last time: 63/63 TAP, 1/1 NTor. Heartbeat: Tor's uptime

Re: [tor-relays] Reimbursement of Exit Operators

2013-09-18 Thread tor
Think bigger, say what? Certain of the world's biggest and most well-funded intelligence agencies hate personal privacy on the internet so much that they've been going to extreme efforts to destroy it. They are packet sniffing the NAPs and fiber backbones to pull out everything they can,

Re: [tor-relays] Tor Relay getting Failed to terminate process with PID messages

2013-09-18 Thread Michael Gorbach
Nope, I don’t have any special pluggable transports configured in my torrc, which is odd. What other processes would for be starting kicking off? All I have set in torrc is: RunAsDaemon, CookieAuthentication, SocksPort / SocksPolicy, PortForwarding and ExitPolicy (reject *:*), and

Re: [tor-relays] 0.2.4.17-rc on Pi, a couple weeks on

2013-09-18 Thread Gordon Morehouse
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:43:25 -0400, Roger Dingledine a...@mit.edu wrote: On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 06:50:46AM -0700, Gordon Morehouse wrote: The replay has settled into a fairly steady state (after losing its flags except Named) of sending 5-10KB more per sec than it gets. I have a feeling

Re: [tor-relays] Reimbursement of Exit Operators

2013-09-18 Thread Gordon Morehouse
While I believe you have a good point On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 19:29:26 -0400, t...@t-3.net wrote: Think bigger, say what? Certain of the world's biggest and most well-funded intelligence agencies hate personal privacy on the internet so much that they've been going to extreme efforts

Re: [tor-relays] Reimbursement of Exit Operators

2013-09-18 Thread Gordon Morehouse
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 08:10:25 -0400, t...@t-3.net wrote: The OP I saw said: The Wau Holland Foundation can currently only reimburse via wire transfer. This seems to be end-of-story in terms of who, in the end, is ultimately getting liability/risk, and points to practically no chance

Re: [tor-relays] 0.2.4.17-rc on Pi, a couple weeks on

2013-09-18 Thread Gordon Morehouse
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:16:48 -0400, josh j...@allensw.com wrote: You may be able to increase the ip_conntrack_max on your router. I had I can, and have, but eventually its 16MB of RAM becomes a problem. ;) The bigger deal, though, is I'm attempting to cobble together a set of scripts and

Re: [tor-relays] 0.2.4.17-rc on Pi, a couple weeks on

2013-09-18 Thread Andy Isaacson
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 05:43:13PM -0700, Gordon Morehouse wrote: Thanks, Roger. I'm still not sure what finally caused the OOM-killer crash this morning after almost a couple weeks (?) of uptime. I was also seeing additional clock jump messages but didn't have time to diagnose it. The Pi

Re: [tor-relays] Reimbursement of Exit Operators

2013-09-18 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 19:29:26 -0400 t...@t-3.net wrote: In the context of September 2013, this whole thing is scary. It was perhaps not scary in September of 2012, when we didn't know anything. Just a point that many in the tech community knew what was happening, at some level, for the past

Re: [tor-relays] Tor Relay getting Failed to terminate process with PID messages

2013-09-18 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 08:20:18PM -0400, Michael Gorbach wrote: Nope, I don?t have any special pluggable transports configured in my torrc, which is odd. What other processes would for be starting kicking off? All I have set in torrc is [...] PortForwarding That's likely the one! You might be