Re: [tor-relays] Don't use Google's DNS server

[Tristan]

Right now I'm using Digital Ocean, but my previous provider experiences
Hostwinds and Pulse (OVH) also have Google DNS as the default.

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 1:50 PM, ITechGeek  wrote:

>
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Tristan  wrote:
>
>> I really wish VPS services wouldn't use Google DNS by default. If not for
>> this e-mail, I would have been on Google's DNS for a while before I found
>> out.
>
>
> I actually haven't seen that before, what VPS provider do you use?
>
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Re: [tor-relays] Don't use Google's DNS server

[ITechGeek]

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Tristan  wrote:

> I really wish VPS services wouldn't use Google DNS by default. If not for
> this e-mail, I would have been on Google's DNS for a while before I found
> out.


I actually haven't seen that before, what VPS provider do you use?


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Re: [tor-relays] Don't use Google's DNS server

[Tristan]

I really wish VPS services wouldn't use Google DNS by default. If not for
this e-mail, I would have been on Google's DNS for a while before I found
out.

Maybe the Tor devs could add a warning if an exit is using Google DNS?
Would that be acceptable?

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Toralf Förster 
wrote:

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> provide an appropriate subset of that file for the purpose of this email
> (topic) IMO.
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Re: [tor-relays] cheap unmetered non-exit VPS offers

[Tor-Node.net]

Markus Koch  wrote:

> exit allowed?

I can vouch for www.stayon.no

VPS with dedicated, unmetered 1 Gbps connection.

1 GB RAM / 1 CPU @ 2.6 GHz

Price: 149 NOK/month (~ 16 EUR / 17 USD).

Tor exit friendly. Their abuse departement will ask you to block
destination IPs if it's something serious.

Kind regards
Tor-node.net
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Re: [tor-relays] Don't use Google's DNS server

[Toralf Förster]

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On 07/28/2016 07:50 PM, nusenu wrote:
> If you run an exit and find your relay fingerprint next to a Google AS
If only a subset from the whole list is meant it would be helpful to provide an 
appropriate subset of that file for the purpose of this email (topic) IMO.

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Re: [tor-relays] Don't use Google's DNS server

[nusenu]

phw released some scan data.

If you run an exit and find your relay fingerprint next to a Google AS
name on the list linked below you might want to change your DNS server
settings.

Note this list is based on data from May 2016 (so it does not
necessarily represent the current situation).

https://gist.githubusercontent.com/nusenu/3b346031a88fb24d0e8b662f3e13697e/raw/0dfcb59e22caf69de992e4276af7d7c8079b2966/resolverAS_FP.maxmind.txt



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Re: [tor-relays] cheap unmetered non-exit VPS offers

[Markus Koch]

>
> no, that is why I put "non-exit" in the subject of my email.
>
> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISPs#Italy1
>
> And yes, their support is poor, but as long as your servers run you won't 
> need them.

Looking it up:

SEFLOW Avoid it. they say it's against Italian law to have a Tor
relay, asked which law, they said to contact a lawyer. (atrent: do you
need a more articulate explanation? I'm the one who had the bad
experience, I have all the emails exchanged and I can translate them);
"i'm sorry but tor is not allowed in our service." (fusl, 02/2015)

No TOR at all is allowed?

>
> Another hoster with great bw/cost efficiency (non-exit!)
> https://itldc.com/en/vds/

Yeah, that was my fault :( He kicked my exit and is since then no more
accepting any exits ...

Markus
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Re: [tor-relays] cheap unmetered non-exit VPS offers

[Xza]

There is also https://dataclub.biz <-- exit + bitcoin payment NL/SW/LV servers 

On July 28, 2016 3:41:04 PM GMT+02:00, tor relay  wrote:
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>> On July 28, 2016 at 2:48 PM Markus Koch 
>wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> exit allowed?
>
>no, that is why I put "non-exit" in the subject of my email.
>
>https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISPs#Italy1
>
>And yes, their support is poor, but as long as your servers run you
>won't need them.
>
>Another hoster with great bw/cost efficiency (non-exit!) 
>https://itldc.com/en/vds/
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Re: [tor-relays] cheap unmetered non-exit VPS offers

[tor relay]

> On July 28, 2016 at 2:48 PM Markus Koch  wrote:
> 
> 
> exit allowed?

no, that is why I put "non-exit" in the subject of my email.

https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/GoodBadISPs#Italy1

And yes, their support is poor, but as long as your servers run you won't need 
them.

Another hoster with great bw/cost efficiency (non-exit!) 
https://itldc.com/en/vds/
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Re: [tor-relays] cheap unmetered non-exit VPS offers

[Markus Koch]

Just chatted with the Support and I highly doubt they are knowing what
they are doing, anyway setup one exit relay and will report back after
my first abuse mail. This will be fun :)

btw:
Jul 28 15:24:19.832 [warn] Failed to parse/validate config: Nickname
'niftychinchillarabbit' is wrong length or contains illegal
characters.

WTF? This is pure rassism! #allbunnynamesmatter



2016-07-28 13:59 GMT+02:00 tor relay :
>
> On July 28, 2016 at 9:11 AM Roman Mamedov  wrote:
>
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 08:09:12 +0100
> "Louie Cardone-Noott"  wrote:
>
> Am I right in thinking that even 2 TByte/month is fairly low? That's
> only 6 Mbit/s average (whether that's 6/6 or 3/3 depends on their
> accounting I suppose).
>
> That's correct, however I don't have any unmetered offers to recommend,
> which
> would be as cheap as those mentioned, and at the same time would not be at
> OVH
> or DigitalOcean (which, as recent discussions show, have "too many" relays
> already).
>
>
> I hope you are not wasting money for 2TB/month non-exit relay VPSes if you
> can get unmetered for 3.33 Euro / months doing ~40MBit/s in each direction.
>
> http://www.seflow.net/2/index.php/en/services/flexcloud/flexpricing
>
>
> munin graphs of a seflow relay:
>
> http://oi67.tinypic.com/2vd66on.jpg
>
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Re: [tor-relays] cheap unmetered non-exit VPS offers

[Markus Koch]

exit allowed?


2016-07-28 13:59 GMT+02:00 tor relay :
>
> On July 28, 2016 at 9:11 AM Roman Mamedov  wrote:
>
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 08:09:12 +0100
> "Louie Cardone-Noott"  wrote:
>
> Am I right in thinking that even 2 TByte/month is fairly low? That's
> only 6 Mbit/s average (whether that's 6/6 or 3/3 depends on their
> accounting I suppose).
>
> That's correct, however I don't have any unmetered offers to recommend,
> which
> would be as cheap as those mentioned, and at the same time would not be at
> OVH
> or DigitalOcean (which, as recent discussions show, have "too many" relays
> already).
>
>
> I hope you are not wasting money for 2TB/month non-exit relay VPSes if you
> can get unmetered for 3.33 Euro / months doing ~40MBit/s in each direction.
>
> http://www.seflow.net/2/index.php/en/services/flexcloud/flexpricing
>
>
> munin graphs of a seflow relay:
>
> http://oi67.tinypic.com/2vd66on.jpg
>
>
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Re: [tor-relays] AWS abuse handling

[Roman Mamedov]

On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 08:09:12 +0100
"Louie Cardone-Noott"  wrote:

> Am I right in thinking that even 2 TByte/month is fairly low? That's
> only 6 Mbit/s average (whether that's 6/6 or 3/3 depends on their
> accounting I suppose).

That's correct, however I don't have any unmetered offers to recommend, which
would be as cheap as those mentioned, and at the same time would not be at OVH
or DigitalOcean (which, as recent discussions show, have "too many" relays
already).

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