Re: [tor-relays] Explaining Tor to worried parent

2018-11-12 Thread Kenneth Freeman
On 11/12/2018 10:14 AM, niftybunny wrote: > Yeah, one of the complete bullshit things. I get around 200 emails per day > like this one: This is good to know. My ISP just put my service on hold, whereas IP-Echelon and its ilk can only sound ominous. Cue the theremin! Zwiebelfreunde is the

Re: [tor-relays] Explaining Tor to worried parent

2018-11-12 Thread niftybunny
Yeah, one of the complete bullshit things. I get around 200 emails per day like this one: -cut-cut-cut-cut-cut- Dear Sir or Madam: We are contacting you on behalf of Paramount Pictures Corporation (Paramount). Under penalty of perjury, I assert that IP-Echelon Pty. Ltd., (IP-Echelon) is

Re: [tor-relays] Explaining Tor to worried parent

2018-11-12 Thread Kenneth Freeman
On 11/12/2018 08:23 AM, niftybunny wrote: > 1. ISPs want to make money, in fact they have to turn in a profit to survive. > Yeah, I know >that sounds unbelievable. Tor is legal but someone has to take care of abuse >mails. These support >people want money for their work. If you get lots of

Re: [tor-relays] Explaining Tor to worried parent

2018-11-12 Thread John Ricketts
+1 On Nov 12, 2018, at 09:24, niftybunny mailto:ab...@to-surf-and-protect.net>> wrote: Okay, this is the tldr version, if you want the long version e-mail me at ab...@to-surf.and-protect.net 1. ISPs want to make money, in fact they have to turn in a

Re: [tor-relays] Explaining Tor to worried parent

2018-11-12 Thread niftybunny
Okay, this is the tldr version, if you want the long version e-mail me at ab...@to-surf.and-protect.net 1. ISPs want to make money, in fact they have to turn in a profit to survive. Yeah, I know that sounds unbelievable. Tor is legal but someone has to

Re: [tor-relays] Explaining Tor to worried parent

2018-11-12 Thread Kenneth Freeman
On 11/12/2018 05:53 AM, DrNotThatEvil wrote: > Secondly she also raised the following question: > 'if you don't do it somebody else will, so why do you put yourself at risk? If not us, whom? If not now, when? ~Anabasis >Thirdly she detected from the conversation that a Exit Relay might not

[tor-relays] Explaining Tor to worried parent

2018-11-12 Thread DrNotThatEvil
Hi everybody, My exit got suspended for a little a few hours today, even tho I contacted my isp before to explain the situation (it was related to a spam blacklist suspend policy). I got the matter resolved quickly but due to the annoyance I mentioned it to a parent. The conversation quickly