Re: [tor-relays] A general question for relay operators

2018-06-28 Thread I
> While the official Tor site arguably needs a thorough resign, designing > a manifold manual for diverse interests and levels of ability AND threat > models is no easy task. It's the classic security/ease of use conundrum! The part to do first and well is the advice for installing and

Re: [tor-relays] A general question for relay operators

2018-06-28 Thread Kenneth Freeman
On 06/28/2018 01:19 AM, arisbe wrote: > Hello George and all, > > When I was learning to implement Tor I had difficulty wading through the > web pages for information. Some pages were obsolete, some poorly > maintained (think Tor flow or good/bad hosting companies). The Tor > manual is just a

Re: [tor-relays] A general question for relay operators

2018-06-28 Thread nusenu
teor: > I think that is a part of the relay guide that we can improve: > Relays exist so that clients can use the network. > Consensus flags exist so that clients can use the network efficiently. > Bandwidth weights are assigned so that clients can use the network > efficiently. tracked as:

Re: [tor-relays] A general question for relay operators

2018-06-28 Thread Nicolás Dato
Hi there, > what "things" do you wish you knew before you started running a relay? I wish I knew what the tor community and the tor network expects from us. For example, is it expected from us to keep the relay with 100% uptime? or would it be still fine to -say- have 70% uptime? or if it is

Re: [tor-relays] A general question for relay operators

2018-06-28 Thread I
Arisbe, > > When I was learning to implement Tor I had difficulty wading through the > web pages for information It is odd for such well motivated people to leave such a mess unculled. The most useful help is outside the website. I hope a breath of fresh air is on the way. Rob

[tor-relays] A general question for relay operators

2018-06-28 Thread arisbe
Hello George and all, When I was learning to implement Tor I had difficulty wading through the web pages for information.  Some pages were obsolete, some poorly maintained (think Tor flow or good/bad hosting companies).  The Tor manual is just a huge list of Tor terminology with no aids to

Re: [tor-relays] A general question for relay operators

2018-06-28 Thread Paul Templeton
> You can rent a relay anywhere in the world. (I rent a few machines in > other countries, because internet in my country is slow.) pfft - Does they live in AU - LOL - If they do then its expensive as well... But teor is right plenty of systems out there in the world - some really cheap. P

Re: [tor-relays] A general question for relay operators

2018-06-27 Thread teor
> On 28 Jun 2018, at 15:14, Keifer Bly wrote: > > Oh, my mistake. I thought torstatus.blutimage.de was also for operators as > well as clients. https://torstatus.blutmagie.de/ is for operators. But the data on the site is created for Tor clients. > I was aware that tor metrics stated relays

Re: [tor-relays] A general question for relay operators

2018-06-27 Thread Keifer Bly
. From: I Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 10:10 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] A general question for relay operators I wish I'd known that this is not the place to learn Linux or really how to run a node securely and efficiently. Perhaps an acknowledgement

Re: [tor-relays] A general question for relay operators

2018-06-27 Thread Keifer Bly
. From: teor Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 9:40 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] A general question for relay operators Hi, > On 28 Jun 2018, at 13:25, Keifer Bly wrote: > > I am not saying that relays that are currently not running should be treate

Re: [tor-relays] A general question for relay operators

2018-06-27 Thread I
I wish I'd known that this is not the place to learn Linux or really how to run a node securely and efficiently. Perhaps an acknowledgement of that might bring some other pages or styles of the current pages. I'd like to see a collection of correct answers perhaps searchable but restricted and

Re: [tor-relays] A general question for relay operators

2018-06-27 Thread teor
Hi, > On 28 Jun 2018, at 13:25, Keifer Bly wrote: > > I am not saying that relays that are currently not running should be treated > like they are currently running. I am just saying the network conseoucsus > could be improved a little in the sense that relays, even very high bandwidth >

Re: [tor-relays] A general question for relay operators

2018-06-27 Thread Keifer Bly
). From: teor Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 7:39 PM To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] A general question for relay operators > On 28 Jun 2018, at 11:45, Keifer Bly wrote: > > It is also a pain at times keeping the OS, especially on macOS, the newer > versi

Re: [tor-relays] A general question for relay operators

2018-06-27 Thread teor
> On 28 Jun 2018, at 11:45, Keifer Bly wrote: > > It is also a pain at times keeping the OS, especially on macOS, the newer > versions of which my not support older machines, up to date while trying to > keep the relay stable, as relay status is changed so quickly (removing relays > from

Re: [tor-relays] A general question for relay operators

2018-06-27 Thread Keifer Bly
] A general question for relay operators Greetings relay operators. A question that came up offline for relay operators can be summed up in one sentence, paraphrased from flexlibris: as a relay operator, what "things" do you wish you knew before you started running a relay? I'm real

[tor-relays] A general question for relay operators

2018-06-27 Thread George
Greetings relay operators. A question that came up offline for relay operators can be summed up in one sentence, paraphrased from flexlibris: as a relay operator, what "things" do you wish you knew before you started running a relay? I'm really curious, in particular, to hear from those relay