Re: [tor-relays] Proper bandwidth units [was: Exit nodes on Gandi]

2013-12-01 Thread Gordon Morehouse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Travis Northrup: Yes, it can. The program can spend the processor time to run that extra instruction set. Do we actually need or want that? Would it be worth spending the cpu time in exchange for just a miniscule effort to do it ourselves? Are

Re: [tor-relays] Proper bandwidth units [was: Exit nodes on Gandi]

2013-11-26 Thread Travis Northrup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yes, it can. The program can spend the processor time to run that extra instruction set. Do we actually need or want that? Would it be worth spending the cpu time in exchange for just a miniscule effort to do it ourselves? On Tuesday, November 26,

Re: [tor-relays] Proper bandwidth units [was: Exit nodes on Gandi]

2013-11-25 Thread Gordon Morehouse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Roger Dingledine: On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 02:29:04PM -0800, Gordon Morehouse wrote: Lunar: Gordon Morehouse: Why not just accept KB/sec, KiB/sec, GB/mo, GiB/mo in the config file? That would be #9214 [1], implemented by CharlieB, shipped

Re: [tor-relays] Proper bandwidth units [was: Exit nodes on Gandi]

2013-11-25 Thread grarpamp
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Gordon Morehouse gor...@morehouse.me wrote: Why not just accept KB/sec, KiB/sec, GB/mo, GiB/mo in the [1] https://bugs.torproject.org/9214 We now support gbits (127) and gbytes (130) in the torrc file, but we do not support gib. Or I think more correctly, we

Re: [tor-relays] Proper bandwidth units [was: Exit nodes on Gandi]

2013-11-25 Thread Travis Northrup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This argument (Mbit/s versus GiB/month) reminds me of the old saw about the most useless unit of velocity (furlongs/fortnight instead of m/sec). Mick I know exactly what you mean. Personally, I consider any change to be a convenience

Re: [tor-relays] Proper bandwidth units [was: Exit nodes on Gandi]

2013-11-23 Thread grarpamp
Why not just accept KB/sec, KiB/sec, GB/mo, GiB/mo in the config file? Because KB/sec would be rejected as not conforming to either SI or IEC prefix specs. Therefore the above proposed 'AND' would fail ;) ___ tor-relays mailing list

Re: [tor-relays] Proper bandwidth units [was: Exit nodes on Gandi]

2013-11-23 Thread Andreas Krey
On Sat, 23 Nov 2013 02:50:03 +, grarpamp wrote: Why not just accept KB/sec, KiB/sec, GB/mo, GiB/mo in the config file? Because KB/sec would be rejected as not conforming to either SI or IEC prefix specs. Why so? The SI prefix spec only specifies that K means 1000, it does not limit the

Re: [tor-relays] Proper bandwidth units [was: Exit nodes on Gandi]

2013-11-23 Thread Lunar
Gordon Morehouse: Why not just accept KB/sec, KiB/sec, GB/mo, GiB/mo in the config file? That would be #9214 [1], implemented by CharlieB, shipped since tor 0.2.5.1-alpha. [1] https://bugs.torproject.org/9214 -- Lunar lu...@torproject.org

Re: [tor-relays] Proper bandwidth units [was: Exit nodes on Gandi]

2013-11-23 Thread Gordon Morehouse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Lunar: Gordon Morehouse: Why not just accept KB/sec, KiB/sec, GB/mo, GiB/mo in the config file? That would be #9214 [1], implemented by CharlieB, shipped since tor 0.2.5.1-alpha. [1] https://bugs.torproject.org/9214 Good, this is the most

Re: [tor-relays] Proper bandwidth units [was: Exit nodes on Gandi]

2013-11-22 Thread Gordon Morehouse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 krishna e bera: On 13-11-18 07:28 PM, grarpamp wrote: A proper IEC gibibyte = GiB = 2^30 = 1024^3 = 1073741824 for data storage, ram (binary bit handling) A proper SI gigabyte = GB = 1E9 = 1000^3 = 10 for data transmission (packet

Re: [tor-relays] Proper bandwidth units [was: Exit nodes on Gandi]

2013-11-19 Thread krishna e bera
On 13-11-18 07:28 PM, grarpamp wrote: A proper IEC gibibyte = GiB = 2^30 = 1024^3 = 1073741824 for data storage, ram (binary bit handling) A proper SI gigabyte = GB = 1E9 = 1000^3 = 10 for data transmission (packet counting, rocketships) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix

Re: [tor-relays] Proper bandwidth units [was: Exit nodes on Gandi]

2013-11-18 Thread Andreas Krey
On Mon, 18 Nov 2013 00:26:32 +, Roger Dingledine wrote: ... I understand your perspective, but Tor is an overlay application just like bittorrent. Tor moves bytes around. It happens that it moves the bytes over the network, Is there anything nowadays that does move data on networks in

Re: [tor-relays] Proper bandwidth units [was: Exit nodes on Gandi]

2013-11-18 Thread Andreas Krey
On Mon, 18 Nov 2013 00:14:15 +, grarpamp wrote: ... People, can we please mind using the proper units. How is 'bytes' improper when that is the basic transfer unit of TCP/IP, and half of the underlying protocols? The only ones who really don't care about bytes are the layer 1 guys. I know

[tor-relays] Proper bandwidth units [was: Exit nodes on Gandi]

2013-11-17 Thread grarpamp
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Eric van der Vlist v...@dyomedea.com wrote: Without bandwidth limitation that's true. OTH, I currently consume only ~ 50 Gbits/month and the limit is 500 Gbits. Would a relay limited to let's say 200 or 300 Gbits/month still be useful for the community? People,

Re: [tor-relays] Proper bandwidth units [was: Exit nodes on Gandi]

2013-11-17 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:14:15AM -0500, grarpamp wrote: People, can we please mind using the proper units. I know Tor doesn't make it easy because Tor itself incorrectly uses Bytes. But Tor is a network application, and real network apps are measured in 'bits per second' I understand your